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Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

There are 1746 comments on the World Magazine story from Apr 23, 2013, titled Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination. In it, World Magazine reports that:

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#842 Apr 28, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't here two years ago.
He made a new account. I debated the same screen name BEFORE DADTDP was repealed. He knows me. I know him. You're out of the loop kiddo.

But it is interesting that YOU called me a liar and he didn't.

“Eat muh chikin, Hugh Victor ”

Since: Apr 13

Hilljackyard

#843 Apr 28, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>(BTW I voted interesting incendiary and disagree on this post of yours)
I voted incendiary and disagree on yours

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#844 Apr 28, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't here two years ago.
How do YOU know if he and I have talked before? Do you have access to my Topix PM? How do you know if he and I have debated on other threads or had private correspondence?

I don't remember seeing you on a gay thread before. Or 'tip' for that matter. But I do know NEARLY every other name on this thread from previous threads.

Dizzy from another tizzy?

“Eat muh chikin, Hugh Victor ”

Since: Apr 13

Hilljackyard

#845 Apr 28, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>He made a new account. I debated the same screen name BEFORE DADTDP was repealed. He knows me. I know him. You're out of the loop kiddo.
But it is interesting that YOU called me a liar and he didn't.
Pale Rider is a she, I'm not, never was a she and don't plan on being one.

I'm living rent free in your head, and I'm asking to be evicted.

I meet tons of strange people on here, but you are probably the strangest.

“Eat muh chikin, Hugh Victor ”

Since: Apr 13

Hilljackyard

#846 Apr 28, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>How do YOU know if he and I have talked before? Do you have access to my Topix PM? How do you know if he and I have debated on other threads or had private correspondence?
I don't remember seeing you on a gay thread before. Or 'tip' for that matter. But I do know NEARLY every other name on this thread from previous threads.
Dizzy from another tizzy?
This is a Columbus thread that got cross posted into your forum

DNF

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Born in Newark Ohio

#847 Apr 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
More specifically, "band" with God.
James 4:7-8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
Oh I am so gald you brought up scripture again. Now I can address the question / point snyper made about Prophetic utterances that you marked off topic and spam.

DNF wrote snyper via PM:

On the thread about the Catholic Lesbian being fired you posted:
"The records give Yeshua plainly declaring that not everything in the Mosaic Code is of divine origin. Remember where?"
> PLEASE tell me where it is.<

snyper replied:

"It's very important and always overlooked by the juridically-minded who seek only rules and laws.

Mark 10:2-5
Matthew 19:7-9

note the choice of words carefully

Mark 1:44
Mark 7:10
Matthew 8:4

It's always,'what did Moses command?', NEVER 'what did God command?'

Also of interest, in other sections you will note specific references to 'book of Moses' not 'books'."

Now the question is do I listen to someone I know is in a Holy Order, has studied this stuff (in Greek, Latin AND Aramaic) and has actually had talks about religion with ministers, Bishops, Popes and Patriarch's or do I believe someone in Columbus who is insisting they know more about current RRC doctrine on gays and lesbians than a man who watched it change and in fact helped it change?

Time's Up Tip.

Post a link to a source that shows what I have said about current Catholic Doctrine about BEING gay or lesbian is incorrect.

Because if you can't and if your minions can't prove the RCC currently says BEING homosexual is a sin and not that the ACT is the sin, well then I guess it just proves you're all full of shit.

BTW Tip, feel free to report me for writing the word "shit". I've always spoke my mind here and never once even got a warning other (than the standard be polite one) that I'd violated the Terms of Service.

See it would be hard for Topix to ban me for what I write and not also ban many others on here that support you. And the bosses know that.

DNF

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#848 Apr 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
More specifically, "band" with God.
James 4:7-8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
Oh goody Bible verse fight:

-"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

- "This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe." (note it doesn't say only those who believe but actually includes everyone; it just gives a little extra blessing to believers)

- There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.(This one REALLY messes up all the whole "it ain't natural" crap. And calls into question why certain people can't get their dirty little minds off sex they CLAIM they find offensive)

- These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

(sort of reminds me of the 'good folks' of Columbus on here fighting for Jesus!)

- Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

(That ain't happening for damn sure!)

But wait there's only two more left:

- But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

- Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

(Well since we are discussing Catholic Church policy you can bet those verses are used very sparingly if at all; at least in Columbus).

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#849 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
DNF is referring to Pale Rider, I've never encountered these guys before.
As I tried to explain, I debated someone by the name "Pale Rider" in the past.

My apologies to you. You were created 2 hours ago specifically for this thread.

The Pale Rider I debated had balls and we had mutual respect. You none of those qualities.(Pseudonyms and fake screen names usually don't)

My bad

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#850 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
Saul, get back to bed
weird. That isn't the first time that has been posted to me. Last time was in 2005.

Seems we HAVE met after all.

“Eat muh chikin, Hugh Victor ”

Since: Apr 13

Hilljackyard

#851 Apr 28, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>As I tried to explain, I debated someone by the name "Pale Rider" in the past.
My apologies to you. You were created 2 hours ago specifically for this thread.
The Pale Rider I debated had balls and we had mutual respect. You none of those qualities.(Pseudonyms and fake screen names usually don't)
My bad
I was created for another thread, this one kept being bumped to the top.

“Eat muh chikin, Hugh Victor ”

Since: Apr 13

Hilljackyard

#852 Apr 28, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>weird. That isn't the first time that has been posted to me. Last time was in 2005.
Seems we HAVE met after all.
I don't think the site was around in 2005

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Born in Newark Ohio

#853 Apr 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
How on earth do you keep missing the fact that both parties agreed to the terms of the contract? Therefore, it is the Church's business...and Ms. Hale agreed that it should be; and further, she agreed to potential termination in the event of immorality and/or unethical behavior.
SOL.
I didn't miss that "fact". The PROBLEM is that the CHURCH DOCTRINE says it won't treat her badly for BEING a lesbian even one in a relationship. Her behavior up until termination gave no indication she was engaing in anything the Church considers immoral.

It's YOU and your focus on SEX SEX SEX that is perverse here. NOT someone listing her friend in her Mom's obit like her Mom wanted her to.

But like I said folks like you scream bloody murder when someone gets fired for making an anti-gay statement on FACEBOOK whether they have a morality clause or not! But turn the tables and have a gay person or lesbian even PUBLICLY ADMIT they are homosexuals and that's it, you want them out and silenced.

Dang you make a great little fascist!

One last time. Will you address the Church's stance on gay Priests? If they obey their celibacy vows are they deemed "immoral" under Church Law?

You keep dodging that question. And I'm sure you'll continue to do so because you know I'm right.

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#854 Apr 28, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
One does not require religion to do that.
so true. Usually all it requires is a loudmouth to lead the mob.

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#855 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
I voted incendiary and disagree on yours
well at least I got your vote!

LOL

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Born in Newark Ohio

#856 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
Pale Rider is a she, I'm not, never was a she and don't plan on being one.
I'm living rent free in your head, and I'm asking to be evicted.
I meet tons of strange people on here, but you are probably the strangest.
Thank you for clearing up my mistake. Pale Rider and The Pale Rider are two different names and two different people.

Thank you for also admitting you are attempting to be someone else.

Guess thinking up your own screen name 3 hours ago was sort of a challenge so you just decided to borrow someone else's and hope no one noticed.

No prob.

See it all the time from you folks on the G&L forums.

DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#858 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a Columbus thread that got cross posted into your forum
BTW voted off topic, spam and agree.

Deal with it.

DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#859 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think the site was around in 2005
typo I missed. Should have been 2008 since I joined in 2007.

My bad. Thanks for keeping me honest.

NAMASTE

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#860 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think the site was around in 2005
About Topix:
http://www.topix.com/topix/about

"How do you build a better news site?

The answer seemed simple in 2004: aggregate news from thousands of sources, create thousands of topically driven news web pages and populate each of those pages with only news about that particular topic.

The Topix team did just that. We created artificial intelligence algorithms that continuously monitor breaking news from over 74,000 sources, 24 hours a day.

These NewsRank® algorithms read every story as it is released and then categorize each one into one or more of the 450,000 news pages, including pages for all 42,000 US zip codes, 15,500 public company and industry verticals, 58,000 celebrities and musicians, and many, many more. Pretty soon, millions of people were visiting the site every month.

But visitors wanted more: they wanted to tell us what they thought about the news on the site. They jammed our email and voice mail with comments about the articles and stories that mattered to them. In response, we added forums to the site in December 2005."

Dang you were wrong again. 7 hours old and such a lousy track record!

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#861 Apr 28, 2013
The Pale Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a Columbus thread that got cross posted into your forum
So basically you and the other 3 from Columbus have decided who can post here?

Gee if I had known you all wanted to keep this hush hush I would have killed the story when it came up on the Gay and Lesbian Thread. Of course it would still eventually show up on The Ohio Forum, The Columbus Forum as well as the Gay and Lesbian Forum and the Religion Forum; just under a different news source.

Tell ya what. You all have a meeting, decide what related stories to this one I'm allowed to take part in, and if you then send me the internet link, I'll post it on the Gay and Lesbian Forum where I am an Editor so ANYONE can voice their views (or the Religion Forumn if you prefer; I'm an Editor there as well).

Since: Mar 09

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#862 Apr 28, 2013
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>There is a big difference between a private company and a Church which has a specific moral code. If it were anything but a church, I'd say that she would have had a legitimate beef. There are constitutional protections afforded to the Church that are not afforded to big business.
All that aside, how are you doing? I haven't crossed paths with you in a while. I just adopted a kitten yesterday after losing two cats in the last 12 months. only one of my cats I brought to Florida with me in 2003 is still alive, the "badcat", so designated because he terrorizes dogs and likes to sneak outside and he is now 15.
Again, it's a SCHOOL, not a church.

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