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Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

There are 1746 comments on the World Magazine story from Apr 23, 2013, titled Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination. In it, World Magazine reports that:

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#506 Apr 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Thanks for showing where YOU got the quote, but it still isn't a link to the source of the quote itself.
That's quite a diatribe there. Very biased, and ill-informed.(That's giving them the benefit of the doubt). Some of the data is simply incorrect.
Toss that up on it's own thread and let's have it it. I think others would agree that it would be fun to dissect such a tract, point by point.
Doubtful that it's retrievable from the original source. Apparently it was published in 1992.
But hey, by all means shoot the messenger.

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#507 Apr 25, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic Church endorses evolution.
sort of

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#508 Apr 25, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Brain activity begins at eight weeks.
You advocate the murder of innocent human life.
You're RC, remember?

According to their doctrine there IS no "innocent human life".

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#509 Apr 25, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>There's nothing more at home in the primordial ooze than a lawyer.
Except, of course, for the primordial oozes themselves.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#510 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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You slur and blaspheme and insult the Lord Jesus Christ now? You've proven you are truly no Christian.
The Bible is NOT "Jesus' Book"!! Jesus did not write it! I stand by what Jesus said, and with a few exceptions there's not a lot of disagreement with Christ's words in scripture. To claim Genesis and Paul's letters are "Jesus' book" is just a flat out lie.
MOST Christians do not agree with the preposterous idea that the Bible is literal truth without error. NONE did until recent trends towards so-called "fundamentalism" over the last 100 years or so.
That the Bible is manmade is documented fact. I did NOT call it a "pack of lies," those are YOUR words, and especially since it doesn't even say what you claim it does but you want to pretend the Bible is the "word of God" without error is bizarre.
You've STILL dodged this simple question---
DO YOU BELIEVE THE EARTH IS 8000 YEARS OLD OR NOT??? Simple question.
Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else, has any idea how old the Earth is, as none were present at its Creation.

What we do know is that God created all things ex nihilo by the word of His mouth.

And since Jesus is, in fact, God...the entire Word of God originates from Him as well.

You are thoroughly inconsistent in claiming that you will believe the words of Jesus, as recorded by his followers, but reject the remaining words in Scripture, as recorded by other of God's followers.

I'd call you a cafeteria Christian, but that would be too generous.
You deny the basic tenets of Christianity and proclaim the lies as truths.

You're not alone on Topix.
So don't feel discriminated against.

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#511 Apr 25, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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A supposed "Christian" citing an atheist philosopher.
Fraud
woof
"DNF" just isn't an adherent of Presuppositional Apologetics.

Neither am I, for that matter.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#512 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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You prove your hatefulness, and that you're not a follower of Christ, with each snotty, nasty attack against justice. If you think this is "documented" you're off your rocker. And if you think it doesn't happen, you're even MORE off your rocker. I watched it happen with my own two eyes, jackass. Hell no it wasn't 'documented,' the cops said "we investigated and found it was a mutual disagreement and there was violence from both sides and we decided no charges were appropriate against either side."
Would you have preferred both participants be charged with assault?
Sounds like the police were gracious.

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#513 Apr 25, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else, has any idea how old the Earth is, as none were present at its Creation.
What we do know is that God created all things ex nihilo by the word of His mouth.
And since Jesus is, in fact, God...the entire Word of God originates from Him as well.
You are thoroughly inconsistent in claiming that you will believe the words of Jesus, as recorded by his followers, but reject the remaining words in Scripture, as recorded by other of God's followers.
I'd call you a cafeteria Christian, but that would be too generous.
You deny the basic tenets of Christianity and proclaim the lies as truths.
You're not alone on Topix.
So don't feel discriminated against.
That is, of course, the Alexandrian/Cappadocian/Nicene heresy.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#514 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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It's not my anything. It is from Jesus Christ. And yes, if you're using "Holy Scripture" for a purpose that goes AGAINST Christ's law to love your neighbor, you're NOT practicing Christianity or following Jesus.
One verse or another being "valid" is far less important. Some are, some obviously are not. Or are you claiming every word of the Bible is "valid"? That "slaves obey your masters" was from God, and that God wanted people to stone their children to death if they talked back?
Your attitude of using the Bible to hate others reminds me of the 13th Chapter of 1st Corinthians, since you seem to be fond of Paul's letters.
1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
It all gets down to that. You're fighting desperately, wildly to defend your position, based entirely in ignorance and hate. Meanwhile, you ignore the suffering it causes.
Your ability to quote (or look up) verses is worthless if you don't care about people. A person who's never seen a Bible, or a stone atheist or a Muslim or Jew or Buddhist who treats others with love is more pleasing to God than a Christian who goes to church every Sunday and has a fish on his car and can quote every word chapter and verse but treats people like dirt.
You obviously do not believe ALL of the words of Jesus Christ, as recorded in Scripture.

If you did, and you had any intention of displaying consistency in your claims, you would have to label Jesus a judgmental hater as well.

It's very clear -- you label any opposition to your personal ideology as hateful.

Very entertaining.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#515 Apr 25, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Brain activity begins at eight weeks.
You advocate the murder of innocent human life.
It's what a loving Jesus would do, dontcha know?

/s

“animis opibusque parati”

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#516 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
Tip--"Again, there is no comparison between being a practicing homosexual and being black or being a woman."
I'm not speaking of reparative therapy here.
I'm speaking of those folks who participated in heterosexual marriages, and perhaps had children, and then later decided they were homosexual. And there are those of them who revert back to heterosexuality after such declarations.

As I said, absolutely anyone can claim to be a practitioner of same-sex behaviors. Such behavior does not entitle them to any special treatment whatsoever.

A man cannot be black one week, white the next...and black again next year.
Nor can a woman become a male temporarily...and revert at will.

Behaviors are not immutable characteristics.
And neither you nor anyone else has proven otherwise.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#517 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
<quoted text>
Every word I said is documented fact. You've proven that you get your "information" from far right hate groups, which accounts for your ignorance.
Revisionist history is the game of the right, I'm imagining you nodding your head in agreement as Glenn Beck spouts off the newest David Barton "revelation" attacking the civil rights movement or claiming the founding fathers didn't support slavery and that the American Indians all just committed suicide.
Though each of your posts amounts to a novel, you have failed to document a single fact.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#518 Apr 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
You're RC, remember?
According to their doctrine there IS no "innocent human life".
"Innocent" is a legal term. When we carry out the death penalty, the life that is being taken is not innocent.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#519 Apr 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Except, of course, for the primordial oozes themselves.
You should see your local free clinic about that. They may have an antibiotic to ease your ooze.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#520 Apr 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU made the assertion. The Onus Probandi is on YOU.
The information was available to you several pages back.
Do your own homework.

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#521 Apr 25, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>"Innocent" is a legal term. When we carry out the death penalty, the life that is being taken is not innocent.
So again you conflate your sectarian religious views with the secular Law?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#522 Apr 25, 2013
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

hmmm... doesn't mention woman laying with anyone...

The bible also doesn't prohibit a man "laying" with his own daughter.

Interesting...

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#523 Apr 25, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
hmmm... doesn't mention woman laying with anyone...
The bible also doesn't prohibit a man "laying" with his own daughter.
Interesting...
Romans 1

They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator -- who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know Godís righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Leviticus 18:6-16

one of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's wife; it is your father's nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son's daughter or of your daughter's daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's wife's daughter, brought up in your father's family, since she is your sister. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's sister; she is your father's relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother's sister, for she is your mother's relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's brother, that is, you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son's wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother's wife; it is your brother's nakedness.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#524 Apr 25, 2013
edit: Lev 18:6 -- NONE of you...

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#525 Apr 25, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Romans 1
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator -- who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know Godís righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Leviticus 18:6-16
one of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's wife; it is your father's nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son's daughter or of your daughter's daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's wife's daughter, brought up in your father's family, since she is your sister. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's sister; she is your father's relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother's sister, for she is your mother's relative. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father's brother, that is, you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son's wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother's wife; it is your brother's nakedness.
Where is "daughter"? Depends on who is doing the "uncovering", doesn't it?

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