Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

Apr 23, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: World Magazine

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#24 Apr 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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I am a 63 year old LAPSED catholic like most are today. According to the American Bishops conference in 2010 only 1 in 4 american catholics attend mandatory sunday mass weekly. Imagine a large corporation and only 25% of the work force come to work when required?
Why would Jesus attach his name to an organization that has been loaded with pedophiles, and the clergy who didn't abuse lied and covered up these worst of crimes from you and everyone else?....
Sexual abuse has been a problem with catholic clergy since the 3rd century....
Below read and learn the canon laws and papal documents of your own church.
http://www.richardsipe.com/patrick_wall/execu...
I report the truth and nothing but the truth.......don't want to know the truth, put your head back in the sand with the rest of the catholics.
UNBELIEVABLE!.........and thanks for reading my posts!
People like you will never shake nor deter the faithful. At 63, you'd be wise to contemplate your own mortality and your attitude of hate.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#25 Apr 23, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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Sounds like the ultimate altar boy fantasy.
Still mad that you were kicked out, huh?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#26 Apr 23, 2013
The roman catholic church has made fools out of the followers. For 17 centuries lied, deceived and covered up the worst of sins by their very own.

The same men who taught you never to commit such sin and NEVER to receive holy communion with such sins on your soul..........but these catholic teachers of the faith who sexually abused over and over and the rest who lied and covered up these crimes gave themselves HOLY COMMUNION at every mass they said.

HIPOCRICY!........

UNBELIEVABLE!
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#27 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>I'm betting you're one of the crew making the treats to the school.
I'm betting you're an idiot. I win!

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#28 Apr 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Why would God put his stamp of approval on any organization that has teachers of the church who have abused, lied, covered up and deceived all the followers.
Keep putting money on the collection plate. Its good to know you are financially defending these creeps that have committed the worst of sins.
Almost $3 Billion in lawsuits. Calculate how much of that came from your pocket.
UNBELIEVABLE!
Have you ever heard the phrase, "throwing the baby out with the bath water"?
Here's a newsflash, Bruce...avoid the second collection and you'll avoid paying for things like lawsuits for the most part.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#29 Apr 23, 2013
Michael wrote:
The roman catholic church has made fools out of the followers. For 17 centuries lied, deceived and covered up the worst of sins by their very own.
The same men who taught you never to commit such sin and NEVER to receive holy communion with such sins on your soul..........but these catholic teachers of the faith who sexually abused over and over and the rest who lied and covered up these crimes gave themselves HOLY COMMUNION at every mass they said.
HIPOCRICY!........
UNBELIEVABLE!
Two percent of priests plus those in the hierarchy who covered up leaves at least 90% of the clergy clean. But you people hate the Church so much that you'll never admit that.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#30 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Two percent of priests plus those in the hierarchy who covered up leaves at least 90% of the clergy clean.
Are you saying 90% is GOOD?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#31 Apr 23, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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Are you saying 90% is GOOD?
I'd say it's a hell of a lot better than any lesser number. I'd also say that most Catholics have never come into contact with an offending priest. I'm pretty sure I haven't. My wife says the same thing and we grew up 1100 miles apart.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#32 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Two percent of priests plus those in the hierarchy who covered up leaves at least 90% of the clergy clean. But you people hate the Church so much that you'll never admit that.
You mean the two percent who've been CAUGHT...

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#33 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>I'd say it's a hell of a lot better than any lesser number. I'd also say that most Catholics have never come into contact with an offending priest. I'm pretty sure I haven't. My wife says the same thing and we grew up 1100 miles apart.
Agree. The ignorant folks are simply parroting the media-created false stereotype.

What's interesting is that these sheep are the very folks who wouldn't otherwise consider insulting homosexuals.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#34 Apr 23, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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You mean the two percent who've been CAUGHT...
No, the two percent estimated by most experts, including insurance companies.

Insurance companies, child advocacy groups and religion scholars say there is no evidence that Catholic clergy are more likely to be involved in sexual misconduct than other clergy or professionals.
“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed,” said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic who’s studied the church’s abuse problems for 20 years.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/s...

Why do we largely overlook the horrific pattern of Protestant pedophilia and sexual exploitation? Here are a few factors to consider:

--- The Catholic Church is easier to think of as a monolithic entity. That means it is easier for the press to cohere the abuse incidents into a single story and our brains to grok it. The idea of one big conspiracy appeals to us: "The Church" did it and then covered it up.

--- The centralized hierarchy of Catholicism makes Catholic offenders easier to sue and guarantees deep pockets. The lawsuits in turn both generate their own news cycle and bring victims out of the closet.

--- Since most Americans are Protestants, the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a story about "them." Protestant Pedophilia is a story about "us," which makes it less gratifying and more uncomfortable.

--- Most Americans find the idea of celibacy peculiar at best. It makes for a more interesting narrative than a generic story about abuse of authority.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/...
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#35 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>No, the two percent estimated by most experts, including insurance companies.
Insurance companies, child advocacy groups and religion scholars say there is no evidence that Catholic clergy are more likely to be involved in sexual misconduct than other clergy or professionals.
“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed,” said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic who’s studied the church’s abuse problems for 20 years.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/s...
Why do we largely overlook the horrific pattern of Protestant pedophilia and sexual exploitation? Here are a few factors to consider:
--- The Catholic Church is easier to think of as a monolithic entity. That means it is easier for the press to cohere the abuse incidents into a single story and our brains to grok it. The idea of one big conspiracy appeals to us: "The Church" did it and then covered it up.
--- The centralized hierarchy of Catholicism makes Catholic offenders easier to sue and guarantees deep pockets. The lawsuits in turn both generate their own news cycle and bring victims out of the closet.
--- Since most Americans are Protestants, the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a story about "them." Protestant Pedophilia is a story about "us," which makes it less gratifying and more uncomfortable.
--- Most Americans find the idea of celibacy peculiar at best. It makes for a more interesting narrative than a generic story about abuse of authority.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/...
More deflection. More projection.

More...GEORGE!

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#36 Apr 23, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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More deflection. More projection.
More...GEORGE!
That's called EVIDENCE and REBUTTAL, wee man. When you grow up to be Harvey Milk, you might understand.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#37 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>No, the two percent estimated by most experts, including insurance companies.
Insurance companies, child advocacy groups and religion scholars say there is no evidence that Catholic clergy are more likely to be involved in sexual misconduct than other clergy or professionals.
“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed,” said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic who’s studied the church’s abuse problems for 20 years.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/s...
Why do we largely overlook the horrific pattern of Protestant pedophilia and sexual exploitation? Here are a few factors to consider:
--- The Catholic Church is easier to think of as a monolithic entity. That means it is easier for the press to cohere the abuse incidents into a single story and our brains to grok it. The idea of one big conspiracy appeals to us: "The Church" did it and then covered it up.
--- The centralized hierarchy of Catholicism makes Catholic offenders easier to sue and guarantees deep pockets. The lawsuits in turn both generate their own news cycle and bring victims out of the closet.
--- Since most Americans are Protestants, the Catholic sex abuse scandal is a story about "them." Protestant Pedophilia is a story about "us," which makes it less gratifying and more uncomfortable.
--- Most Americans find the idea of celibacy peculiar at best. It makes for a more interesting narrative than a generic story about abuse of authority.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/...
Statistics won't make me comfortable leaving my child in the care of one.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#38 Apr 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever heard the phrase, "throwing the baby out with the bath water"?
Here's a newsflash, Bruce...avoid the second collection and you'll avoid paying for things like lawsuits for the most part.
How do you know they're not actually using the proceeds from the first one to pay the claims and legal fees?

There's probably more cash in that one, you know? Maybe you're being duped.

woof

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#39 Apr 23, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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More deflection. More projection.
More...GEORGE!
You really haven't a good grasp on the English language, wee boy. I do believe George's post did attack the issue. Your comment, however, is a pathetic childish attempt to deflect the conversation off course.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#40 Apr 23, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Statistics won't make me comfortable leaving my child in the care of one.
I wouldn't leave my kid alone with a homosexual either.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#41 Apr 23, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Statistics won't make me comfortable leaving my child in the care of one.
Plan then on home schooling your children.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-1933687.h...

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#42 Apr 23, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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How do you know they're not actually using the proceeds from the first one to pay the claims and legal fees?
There's probably more cash in that one, you know? Maybe you're being duped.
woof
Or maybe you don't understand that the first collection generally stays in the diocese for local average expenses. Columbus has been mercifully spared from the nightmare, save for two priests that I've seen mentioned.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#44 Apr 23, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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A church that's jealous of sex!
.
Ain't that sweet!
Look what crawled out of the bathhouse...Topix's resident cream puff.

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