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Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

There are 1746 comments on the World Magazine story from Apr 23, 2013, titled Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination. In it, World Magazine reports that:

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#365 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>He prefers not to. He faces religious persecution in some of the countries he travels to. Something you aren't very familiar with in real life.
Coward.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#366 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>The 7th toe was a dead give away.
Your foul attacks of the Church tell us all we need to know about you, Bruce.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#367 Apr 25, 2013
Racer93 wrote:
To everyone that thinks this was wrong that she was fired for violating the terms of her employment contract also supports that everyone that has been fired for being drunk on doped up at work should not be fired also?
People you got to get you heads out of your asses and look at why she was fired. Her being gay is not the reason, the reason is she violated her contract.
Gays want the same rights as Straight people well, I would say that if she sues and wins it would look more like gays have better rights!!1
So "being drunk or doped up" in the workplace is somehow the same as being in a loving, committed relationship at home?

Contract violation? About one's private life?

The situation sucks all around.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#368 Apr 25, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm proud to be everything you leftists hate in your upside-down world.
We know. The 7th toe was a dead give away.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#369 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>sounds like it to me! It's always suspicious when people who want to silence Nuns start talking about moral principles and faith! It's downright scary!
Then he smugly sits there whining about the erosion of religious freedom in this country?
WTF?
So, nuns should be allowed to break the law by committing voter fraud, huh? And they shouldn't be held to the same teaching of the Church as the rest of us, with opposition to abortion being a rather obvious example?

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#370 Apr 25, 2013
tip-"You deny the story of creation as recorded in Genesis,"

You didn't answer my question--do you think the earth is 8000 years old?

Do you think the sun revolves around the earth?

Of COURSE I deny the story of creation as WRITTEN (not recorded) in Genesis. It's preposterous bunk. It's not even CLOSE to truth. Science has proven the planet to be millions of years old. The idea that it was started 8000 years ago with "Adam and Eve" is ridiculous, and believing it doesn't make one a better Christian, just a fool.

"and claim God is a woman"

God is no more male than female. God has no sex, or color, or religion, or nationality.

"who endorses homosexual behavior?"

WHY did God create all those gay people if God were against gay people? Why?

I never said God "endorsed" it, any more than God "endorses" driving cars or posting on internet message boards. All God endorses is treating others with love. You refuse to do so.

"OkieDokie, Darren.
It is fraud of epic proportion to employ Scripture in your argument when you deny the basic tenets of Christianity."

Blasphemous lie. I do NOT deny the basic tenets of Christianity. You DO. The idea that belief in the ridiculous Genesis myth is a "basic tenet of Christianity" couldn't be stupider.
Our basic tenets are to love one another, to forgive one another. To accept Jesus Christ as the Son of the Living God and accept him as Lord and Savior.
Homophobia is NOT a basic tenet of Christianity, it goes AGAINST the basic tenets.

"You are far from knowing "Christ's truth"

Not by a long shot. You cannot show actual evidence that one word I've said is untrue. Not a single word.

"worse, you degrade it with your uneducated,"

Uneducated?

OK, now you're going to get called.

Show EVIDENCE that one word I've said is factually inaccurate. Go ahead, where is it?

No, bozo, you may disagree with my opinions, but to claim I'm "uneducated" is preposterous crap and you know it. I'm very well educated on this stuff, very well. You're clearly not, and there's nothing wrong with that until you start attacking people in your ignorance and harming them with your lies.

"self-serving"

Explain, please, how ANY of this is "self-serving." I'd LOVE to hear this one.

"expositions from OkieDarren's Revised Version of the Formerly Holy Scriptures."

I haven't "revised" a thing. You have. You are revising a verse that most legitimate scholars agree is NOT about homosexuality to claim a "condemnation" and even more ridiculous, you've taken words were KNOW were written by Paul of Tarsus, formerly known as Saul, and claimed they are "God's words."

"Carry on...Denial is a long river."

I have never practiced denial. Show EVIDENCE that anything I've said is factually inaccurate, and I'll change. That's something people like you never, ever do. Your bigotry is encased in lead, you refuse to look at absolute proof that you're wrong. You take lies from some preacher somewhere and get brainwashed into thinking it's "God's own truth," and view the words of the Bible as if they were typed by God on an old typewriter or with a scroll and a pen instead of seeing what they REALLY are, oral traditions handed down for centuries before ANYONE wrote them down, then translated over and over again in the case of the OT, and even in the New stories written over 100 years AFTER the people they were about had all died.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#371 Apr 25, 2013
FKAdukechereader wrote:
<quoted text>
It's in Dukes night stand, it's big and black and you love it.
I know you care.
Sorry but she's not your type. She's not inflatable.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#372 Apr 25, 2013
Here's how you people roll:

Extortion threat at Watterson

Bishop Watterson High School has been besieged with phone calls and has been the victim of attempted extortion since the firing of longtime physical education teacher Carla Hale.

According to Columbus police reports, school officials received an email at 9 a.m. Friday, April 19, "stating that a well-known LGBT group would be coming to the school protesting the firing of a teacher.

"This email stated the protest would be in three stages," the reporting officer noted. "Video in and out of the school, couples would then enter the school kissing, and then pictures and video would be posted on the Internet. The email also stated that if the school wanted to avoid the situation, they could send $10,000 to them and $10,000 to the teacher."

At 1:30 p.m. April 17, Watterson Principal Marian Hutson contacted police to report that, as a result of the "media storm" over Hale's dismissal, the school had been receiving hundreds of calls from all over the country.

"Some of these calls are threatening in nature, non-specific, yet can and are being taken in a threatening manner," according to police re-port.

School officials were advised to save and document all calls and letters received. The Columbus Dispatch reported Hutson is being escorted to and from her vehicle at the Catholic high school by a police officer.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/school-forces-all-...

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#373 Apr 25, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys are becoming a bit unhinged.
The truth will do that to those who reject it.
The injustices you have referenced all have legal remedies for every U.S. citizen [sexual preference irrelevant].
And AGAIN you ignore the FACT that gays do NOT get equal treatment under the law.

Hate crimes law is needed, and there is absolutely NO legitimate reason to oppose it whatsoever. None. It does not reduce by one penny or one second the punishment for any OTHER crime.

The only reason it's opposed by homophobic hate groups is that they WANT gay people living in fear of assault and murder.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#374 Apr 25, 2013
Wrong link above. The correct link:

http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/c...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#375 Apr 25, 2013
Pot Pourri wrote:
Queers are defined by what they do.
Specifically, all queers consider sodomy and abortion to be virtuous, and practice sodomy and abortion frequently.
Sodomy is anal or oral copulation between any combination of men, women, and beast.
Any heterosexual that practices sodomy or abortion is a queer. The opposite of a queer is a straight person, and straight people don't do sodomy or abortion. LGBTQ are all queer because they promote sodomy and abortion as virtues.
Sodomy is not sex, and sodomy is not an act of reproduction.
Queers are confused by these facts because they believe their own bullsh!t.
"Sodomy" is an ignorant medieval misnomer .... that is now a medieval hangover.

You really have your own little dictionary going there, butternut.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#376 Apr 25, 2013
Pot Pourri wrote:
<quoted text>
If the question is whether I am queer, the answer is no.
As I already stated, if you do queer, you are queer.
If you do queer proclivities frequently, you are a flaming queer.
If you promote queer proclivities as a legal privilege, as many queers do through their national victim cult scheme, you are a queer scumbag shyster.
When you stop doing queer things, you cease to be queer.
Queers have convinced many people, especially women and rednecks, that queer proclivities are virtues and that sodomy is sex.
Crack a high school biology text and set yourself free.
Fallacy of misplaced concreteness
Oliver Canterberry

Chillicothe, OH

#377 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
<quoted text>
Bite me. "Getting a little testy," you're damn right. I care about the people you hate. I care about the people whose lives you destroy with this trash. I care about the people whose suffering you mock. I care about 15 year olds committing suicide because lowlifes like you convince them God doesn't care about them. About people who hear nothing from their family for years, only to get a phone call-- "It's your brother. You'll read in the paper tonight that grandma died yesterday. We are calling to tell you not to attend the funeral, or we'll have you kicked out." Click, phone hung up. I saw that happen.
Christian?
There's nothing Christian about homophobia. It's hateful, and it's destroying lives of people Jesus told us to love.
As for "what does my mother have to do with it," one questions your ability to read if you have to ask that question. It was explained as clearly as possible, a 5th grader could understand it.
I'll put it another way--do you follow Christ because you care about other people and admire His principles of love and forgiveness? Or do you follow Christ because you think you'll go to heaven if you are, and will go to hell if you aren't?
Faith based upon getting a reward, or avoiding a punishment, is shallow and worthless.
There's nothing Christian about homophobia. It's hateful, and it's destroying lives of people Jesus told us to love.

The Book of Leviticus is one of the foundational documents for Judaism, Christianity and Islam and in Chapter 18:22 it reads, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind." This is quite clear and your problem is with God whose Holy Word is clear whether you like it or not. This woman chose to work for a Catholic School. If she wanted to live an open lifestyle that is contrary to foundational church doctrine there are many jobs with Columbus City Schools who have no standards whatsoever in this regard.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#378 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
tip-"There has been no hate in anything I have posted here."
That itself shows even more levels of hate. What you're posting IS hateful, and to deny that shows you truly have NO Christian love for the victims of your bigotry.
Claiming the way God created them is a "sin" is hate. Claiming God will torture them in "hell" is hate. Demanding celebacy for life is cruel and hateful. Claiming they can "repent" when EVERY gay person knows they cannot is hate.
To love someone, you have to see things from their perspective, and if something you're doing is hurting them, stop doing it.
"You on the other hand, are melting down."
You wish. I am not remotely close to "melting down." I know this issue very well, and have debated it with thousands of people over the years. Angry? You bet, and you know why, because I've seen the results of the hateful lies you're spouting, and UNLIKE you I care about the people whose lives you're destroying.
Very angry? Yes. "Melting down"? Not even close.
"Homophobia: non-medical, non-scientific pejorative term"
Lie. It's not pejorative in any way, nor is it "non-scientific" or "non-medical." Nothing so stupid as homophobes trying to pretend homophobia doesn't exist, like racists 50 years ago claiming racism was a "construct of the liberal media."
"used to demean and ridicule any disagreement with or disapproval of aberrant, deviant, or unnatural pseudo-sexual behaviors."
A vile lie. It's not any more "demeaning" or "ridiculing" than calling a racist a racist. It's simply acknowledgement of truth.
Being gay is NOT aberrant, is NOT deviant, and is NOT unnatural. It is not "behavior," and is no more "pseudo-sexual" than heterosexuality is. And your comments here PROVE your hate, all the more.
Homophobia is real. And it is wrong.
Again, I refuse to read your long and winding rants [which are in need of the proper reply/quotation procedure, by the way, to be easily followed].

Here is what it all boils down to:

In Homosexual World, absolutely no one [family/friends/strangers] can criticize the way you live your lives [and the fact is that you all intend to ensure there are legal penalties for anyone doing so -- i.e., "free speech for me, but not for thee"....]

Listen, we've all heard until we're deaf the standard:

"Donít give me that 'love the sinner, hate the sin' line. If you love me, you have to accept what I do. This is who I am. If you reject what I do, you reject me. If you hate it, you hate me!"

Well, that's illogical. If you truly care about someone, you refuse to casually accept that she's destroying herself with drugs or alcohol, for example. Now, you may lack a clear plan on how you might personally help stop the abuse, but you certainly won't pretend her habit is just another legitimate lifestyle choice. And you certainly won't "celebrate and affirm" her self-destruction.

No, indeed. You hate the behavior all the more...because you love her.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#379 Apr 25, 2013
look i agree that private cathardo schools have every right to prove to all just how hateful and bigoted there faith has become.. I do support there firing of this teacher and hope tha faith continues to displayhow ignorant they truly are

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#380 Apr 25, 2013
tip--"Take it from one of your well-respected own:"

Please explain what makes Andrew Sullivan "one of my own". I'd love to hear this. I certainly do NOT view him as "well-respected."

"The real reason for hate crime laws is not the defense of human beings from crime."

Lie. It is the ONLY reason.

"There are already laws against that Ė and Matthew Shepardís murderers were successfully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in a state with no hate crimes law at the time."

First off, that's a lousy example. The ONLY reason this happened was the amount of attention Matt's case got. In MANY cases before, and no small number since, similar crimes get nothing CLOSE to "fullest extent" prosecution.

"The real reason for the invention of hate crimes was a hard-left critique of conventional liberal justice"

The far right's way of describing actual justice with real equality, something they oppose.

"and the emergence of special interest groups"

Lie. We have special interest groups NOW--men, Christians, heterosexuals, and most of all white people. This is about EQUALIZING justice.

"which need boutique legislation to raise funds for their large staffs and luxurious buildings."

Absolute hogwash.

"Andrew Sullivan
And thatís pretty damning...coming from him."

Coming from "him"? Why is that any more "damning" than any other right wing claptrap coming from Andrew Sullivan? Because he's gay? It's no less despicable than the black people who come out against racial justice and equality, and deserve the same disdain and disgust.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#381 Apr 25, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
<quoted text>
And AGAIN you ignore the FACT that gays do NOT get equal treatment under the law.
Hate crimes law is needed, and there is absolutely NO legitimate reason to oppose it whatsoever. None. It does not reduce by one penny or one second the punishment for any OTHER crime.
The only reason it's opposed by homophobic hate groups is that they WANT gay people living in fear of assault and murder.
Repeat:

"Do any readers think we NEED an amendment to prevent hate crimes against the LGBT community? Really? Are you seeing the mass persecution of gays ANYWHERE? Anywhere at all?

This law isnít about "protecting" homosexuals. Itís about the Left pandering to a small but money-laden and activist faction in their party."

-- Cory Truax

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#382 Apr 25, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Any psychologist who aced Anatomy and Biology, and who has the patience of a Job, so that s/he can gently and effectively explain and re-explain to you that your same-sex attraction is unnatural, unhealthy, and leads to an evolutionary dead-end.
OH NOW I GET IT!

If gay men can marry then those genes won't get passed on. And the species will....wait......I know this has something to do with evolution and the survival of the species...gee this is really confusing when religionists start trying to use science...let's see, two men having sex affects future world population rates because.....wait I'm almost there...two women falling in love is different than two people who won't make babies because...dang now my head hurts. I almost had this.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#383 Apr 25, 2013
My previous post was made possible by the comic genius of Tip n Bigby!

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#384 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Because you say so?
Get a grip honey.
You may have a point about Pedophilia being a choice if both the child and adult agree and CONSENT but I doubt you'll find a mule or a corpse who will CONSENT to be used.
My GOD this story is about maintaining principles. It's about a possible trend to fire older workers especially gay and lesbian ones to avoid pension payments.
But YOU want to talk about sex with animals, dead bodies and little kids and your calling the GLBT community sick?
What a huge cosmically funny irony.
You really ought to read the actual news article.
This event relates to contract law.

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