Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

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Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#260 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
Let's see... I can rattle off a number of really huge Catholic medical systems in the state:
Mt. Carmel (Columbus)
St. Vincent Mercy (Toledo)
Good Samaritan (Dayton)
St. Vincent Charity (NE Ohio)
Catholic Health Partners (joined now with Summa)(Cincinnati)--currently the biggest hospital system in the state
Shall I continue? All operate in urban areas, with Level I trauma centers and provide primary care to the poor... hmmm... get rid of them? I don't think Islamic hospitals can fill that void.
Now list all of the other hospitals in those metropolitan areas.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#261 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>OK. Take away the three Catholic hospitals in Columbus and you lose 1200 beds, three ERs, a Level 1 Trauma Center and coverage for the entire east side of Franklin County.
"Just a bump in the road," huh?
Yep. That's the beauty of America. There is always someone ready to fill the void. The Cleveland Clinic would be down there in 15 seconds.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#262 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Which one would that be?
Any psychologist who aced Anatomy and Biology, and who has the patience of a Job, so that s/he can gently and effectively explain and re-explain to you that your same-sex attraction is unnatural, unhealthy, and leads to an evolutionary dead-end.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#263 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. That's the beauty of America. There is always someone ready to fill the void. The Cleveland Clinic would be down there in 15 seconds.
Do you know how long it takes to build all that infrastructure and equip it? And finding the real estate won't be a cakewalk, either.
You don't know what you're talking about. Again.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#264 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. That's the beauty of America. There is always someone ready to fill the void. The Cleveland Clinic would be down there in 15 seconds.
The Cleveland Clinic probably couldn't fill the void. It's primary mission is research medicine and specialty cancer care.

Here in Columbus, you blow out Mt. Carmel (3 separate hospitals), and you overload OSU hospitals, immediately. Mt. Carmel West is the major hospital on the west side (Doctor's Hospital further down Broad is a small hospital, no Level 1 trauma). Mt. Carmel East, as George pointed out, IS THE primary center for all of east Columbus. St. Ann's in the north is smaller, but still like the other two, are level 1 trauma and I think a backup facility in case of a major disaster such as what happened in Boston. OSU would be very difficult to get to should there be a disaster like that in Boston--315 and 670 are nasty during certain periods. Response times here critical, dufus.

Since: Mar 09

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#265 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Any psychologist who aced Anatomy and Biology, and who has the patience of a Job, so that s/he can gently and effectively explain and re-explain to you that your same-sex attraction is unnatural, unhealthy, and leads to an evolutionary dead-end.
So you imagine that I have samesex attractions?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#266 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
The Cleveland Clinic probably couldn't fill the void. It's primary mission is research medicine and specialty cancer care.
Here in Columbus, you blow out Mt. Carmel (3 separate hospitals), and you overload OSU hospitals, immediately. Mt. Carmel West is the major hospital on the west side (Doctor's Hospital further down Broad is a small hospital, no Level 1 trauma). Mt. Carmel East, as George pointed out, IS THE primary center for all of east Columbus. St. Ann's in the north is smaller, but still like the other two, are level 1 trauma and I think a backup facility in case of a major disaster such as what happened in Boston. OSU would be very difficult to get to should there be a disaster like that in Boston--315 and 670 are nasty during certain periods. Response times here critical, dufus.
You are wrong about the Cleveland Clinic's mission.

No one and no institution is irreplaceable.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#267 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
The Cleveland Clinic probably couldn't fill the void. It's primary mission is research medicine and specialty cancer care.
Here in Columbus, you blow out Mt. Carmel (3 separate hospitals), and you overload OSU hospitals, immediately. Mt. Carmel West is the major hospital on the west side (Doctor's Hospital further down Broad is a small hospital, no Level 1 trauma). Mt. Carmel East, as George pointed out, IS THE primary center for all of east Columbus. St. Ann's in the north is smaller, but still like the other two, are level 1 trauma and I think a backup facility in case of a major disaster such as what happened in Boston. OSU would be very difficult to get to should there be a disaster like that in Boston--315 and 670 are nasty during certain periods. Response times here critical, dufus.
Che thinks she knows all about our city...despite never having been here.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#268 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
So you imagine that I have samesex attractions?
He thinks every person is just like him.

Since: Mar 09

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#269 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
The Cleveland Clinic probably couldn't fill the void. It's primary mission is research medicine and specialty cancer care.
Here in Columbus, you blow out Mt. Carmel (3 separate hospitals), and you overload OSU hospitals, immediately. Mt. Carmel West is the major hospital on the west side (Doctor's Hospital further down Broad is a small hospital, no Level 1 trauma). Mt. Carmel East, as George pointed out, IS THE primary center for all of east Columbus. St. Ann's in the north is smaller, but still like the other two, are level 1 trauma and I think a backup facility in case of a major disaster such as what happened in Boston. OSU would be very difficult to get to should there be a disaster like that in Boston--315 and 670 are nasty during certain periods. Response times here critical, dufus.
So you're saying that Ohio, or at least your region of Ohio, has been made dependent upon Roman Catholicism for it's health care?

Then why does it cost so much?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#271 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
The Cleveland Clinic probably couldn't fill the void. It's primary mission is research medicine and specialty cancer care.
Here in Columbus, you blow out Mt. Carmel (3 separate hospitals), and you overload OSU hospitals, immediately. Mt. Carmel West is the major hospital on the west side (Doctor's Hospital further down Broad is a small hospital, no Level 1 trauma). Mt. Carmel East, as George pointed out, IS THE primary center for all of east Columbus. St. Ann's in the north is smaller, but still like the other two, are level 1 trauma and I think a backup facility in case of a major disaster such as what happened in Boston. OSU would be very difficult to get to should there be a disaster like that in Boston--315 and 670 are nasty during certain periods. Response times here critical, dufus.
I suppose 50 years ago in Columbus it seemed like a good idea to build a medical center on a college campus. Now we know...not so much with the access nightmare that is OSU.
NONE of the med school hospitals in the Boston area are on their campuses...for good reason.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#272 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
So you imagine that I have samesex attractions?
It is a logical conclusion given your support of this fired slit licker.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#273 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying that Ohio, or at least your region of Ohio, has been made dependent upon Roman Catholicism for it's health care?
Then why does it cost so much?
35% of the beds. Three of the eight hospitals in Franklin County.
What do you mean about cost? They're non-profits.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#274 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong about the Cleveland Clinic's mission.
No one and no institution is irreplaceable.
You are wrong about medical care in Columbus. Absolutely clueless.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#275 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
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So you imagine that I have samesex attractions?
Based upon your defense of same-sex behaviors as natural and deserving of special rights, I assume you do.

Either way, you are in need of instruction on Anatomy, Biology, Health, and both Natural and Constitutional Law.

Looks like you'll need more than a good shrink.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#276 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong about the Cleveland Clinic's mission.
No one and no institution is irreplaceable.
I've never seen Cleveland Clinic bill itself as emergency medicine. It very well does have a Level I trauma unit; however, it's not the clinic's primary mission. It would be pretty stupid for it not to have emergency units. You also realize it's a private organization, no? Not a public hospital?

I didn't state no one and no institution were irreplaceable. Don't put words into people's mouths. However, the medical infrastructure, at least within Ohio, would be severely crippled if you pulled out Catholic hospital systems. They happen to perform a lot of the work within the medical system here, often within urbanized areas (treating anything from gunshot wounds, med-evac'd victims in highway accidents, childbirth, minor wound care, pediatric well care, etc.). No one said you had to go to one; however, don't get into a car wreck in Ohio and get helicoptered. You may very well be placed into a level 1 trauma unit in a Catholic hospital. You will have no choice, you go to the nearest level 1. Period.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#277 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>I suppose 50 years ago in Columbus it seemed like a good idea to build a medical center on a college campus. Now we know...not so much with the access nightmare that is OSU.
NONE of the med school hospitals in the Boston area are on their campuses...for good reason.
It's a nightmare down there. My mom got sent there after a fall. After midnight. Terrifying at night, too--with parking and having to get into the right building. Rush hour? Forget it! Miami Valley in Dayton is similar. Hard to get into off very narrow Route 48 during rush hour and it's in a terrible neighborhood.

Wright State's medical school did something unique. They didn't build their own hospital. And the school is very highly regarded. What they do is partner with the local hospitals, particularly with Miami Valley and Kettering Memorial Systems (which Che would hate even more, it's Seventh Day Adventist, but a very good hospital). But WSU focuses more on primary care physician education, not on the specialties. And they also have Raj Soin in their corner with funding.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#278 Apr 24, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a nightmare down there. My mom got sent there after a fall. After midnight. Terrifying at night, too--with parking and having to get into the right building. Rush hour? Forget it! Miami Valley in Dayton is similar. Hard to get into off very narrow Route 48 during rush hour and it's in a terrible neighborhood.
Wright State's medical school did something unique. They didn't build their own hospital. And the school is very highly regarded. What they do is partner with the local hospitals, particularly with Miami Valley and Kettering Memorial Systems (which Che would hate even more, it's Seventh Day Adventist, but a very good hospital). But WSU focuses more on primary care physician education, not on the specialties. And they also have Raj Soin in their corner with funding.
I hear you. My son was born at OSU and my wife was there as high risk for two weeks beforehand. Everyday for two weeks I left there at 6:00 AM, went home, got a shower went to work, then went down there at 5:00 every afternoon. They were redoing 315 at the time and clearing the land for the Schott to be built.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#279 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying that Ohio, or at least your region of Ohio, has been made dependent upon Roman Catholicism for it's health care?
Then why does it cost so much?
No, you have options. Just stating observations that Catholic hospitals provide a significant and needed portion of the necessary emergency and basic medical needs.

Excellent care at OSU Hospitals. No clue about the costs. My only experience has been using Mt. Carmel's outpatient a couple of times for some follow up blood work for hypothyroidism to monitor the Synthroid. No more, no less than what I've noted before on my insurance.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#280 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Che thinks she knows all about our city...despite never having been here.
Say whaaaaat? For cryin' out loud. It's not like Ohio is all that big she can't see beyond that burg she's living in, where is she posting from today? Medina? That's a great worldview to have.

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