Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

Apr 23, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: World Magazine

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Your statement, and the coiner of that phrase, are basing your terminology upon 12th century proto-scholastic "thinkers" who imagined an ideal, then imagined an order based upon that imagining. They also pretty assiduously persecuted any who did not match their imaginings.
If it occurs in nature, it's "natural".
"Science flew men to the Moon and back.
Religion flew men into buildings."
I'll take my cue from Thomas Aquinas.

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I'll have to agree with Cory Truax and...(gasp!)...Andrew Sullivan on these special-rights laws:
TRUAX:
Itís Unconstitutional
The 14th Amendment of a sparely-considered document, The United States Constitution, guarantees equal protection under the law. Laws of this sort contravene both the essence of the Declaration of Independenceóall men are created equalóand the expressed language of the Constitution. These laws value the life of a 22-year old, able-bodied homosexual male over that of your elderly grandmotheróunless, of course, your grandmother is a lesbian.
Furthermore, giving jurisdiction of one certain type of crime to the federal government should send those who revere the 10th Amendment into a rage. In every way, hate crimes laws are not just bad ideas: theyíre bad law.
The Reasoning
Do any readers think we NEED an amendment to prevent hate crimes against the LGBT community? Really? Are you seeing the mass persecution of gays ANYWHERE? Anywhere at all?
This law isnít about "protecting" homosexuals. Itís about the Left pandering to a small but money-laden and activist faction in their party.
Itís Unenforceable
Iíd like to hear this amendmentís proponentsí idea on how to determine what crime is a hate crime. How is an officer of the law or an officer of the court supposed to ascertain that this particular act was committed out of hatred?
In that vein, I must ask, "Isnít any crime a hate crime?" Iím fairly sure that the murders that take place after husbands come home earlier than expected are perpetrated out of hatred. Should we then enact laws to protect adulterers from hate?
Even with the entire Justice Department working on it, I canít surmise the scenario where we find indisputable evidence that someone committed an act of violence out of hate."
SULLIVAN:
"The real reason for hate crime laws is not the defense of human beings from crime. There are already laws against that Ė and Matthew Shepardís murderers were successfully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in a state with no hate crimes law at the time.
The real reason for the invention of hate crimes was a hard-left critique of conventional liberal justice and the emergence of special interest groups which need boutique legislation to raise funds for their large staffs and luxurious buildings."
Thatís pretty damning coming from him.
What's the substantive difference between 1st and 2nd degree homicide?

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Irenaeus did. So did Eusebius, Augustin, etc.
My sect never accepted the Saulian, Alexandrian, Cappadocian and Nicene heresies.
Now THOSE were redefining. lol
Better review your Apostolics and Patristics.
Your sect? Do tell.

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I don't "attend" any church. lol
If you did you might know about leftist criminal nuns who should be in prison for voter fraud.

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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You don't keep up with things, do you?
A nun accused of voter fraud in Hamilton County today entered a guilty plea in court. Prosecutors say Sister Marguerite Kloos was one of three people named in an indictment back in March for voting in the 2012 Presidential Election using the names of relatives or deceased Hamilton County residents or for voting more than one time using the same name.
54 year old Sister Marguerite Kloos was sentenced to a diversion program after entering her guilty plea in court on Tuesday, April 16th. Once she has completed that program, her guilty plea and conviction will be wiped from the court records.
Kloos was accused of voter fraud for voting on behalf of a fellow nun who died before her absentee ballot had been mailed out by the Board of Elections. Kloos could have been sentenced to 18 months in jail.
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Nun-E...
In April, the largest organization of Roman Catholic nuns in the U.S. was hit by a Vatican-ordered crackdown that described the LCWR as being "too radical" for pushing "feminist themes" in its ministry. The LSWR, founded in 1956, boasts more than 1,500 nuns and sisters, who work in social services, parish ministries, education, health care and religious education.
The organization has gone against official Roman Catholic Church doctrine by endorsing same-sex marriage and defending pro-choice as well as pro-euthanasia positions.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/radical-nun...
I'm kind of busy (don't laugh, DNF) with a few things. I don't usually have time to keep up with particularly sectarian religionist news items.

Thanks, though. Just the links would have been sufficient.

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A catholic kid touching indoctrination camp stands divided. The irony!
You avoid Catholic hospitals in an emergency, right?

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What's the substantive difference between 1st and 2nd degree homicide?
Deflection FAIL.

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<quoted text>That's an old, tired excuse. And I dare you to take that to the ghetto. You'd have an interesting visit.
I offer no "excuse" for anything. To characterize my post as such is merely a use of the "Straw Man Fallacy".

"Ghetto" explains many things, doesn't it?

That last is another fallacy called "Argumentum ad Baculum".

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<quoted text>That's evident.
How?

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Your sect? Do tell.
Or not.

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A catholic kid touching indoctrination camp stands divided. The irony!
I'm shocked that the LGBTQIABCDEF community is not defending the priests, their homosexual brethren, who are merely "expressing their natural sexual orientation":

BLK, a leading black homosexual publication, defended pedophilia with an article entitled, "Must Men Who Love Boys Be Guilty of Sexual Misconduct?"

San Franciscoís leading homosexual newspaper, The Sentinel, bluntly editorialized, "The love between man and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality."

You're awfully quiet about these quotations from mainstream homosexual mags....

In other words, had the adult-child sex offenders not been associated to the Catholic Church, we would have heard nothing from Leftist World. Similar to the Dirkhising story. When your standard religiously-unaffiliated homo commits a dastardly sexual offense....crickets.

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<quoted text>If you did you might know about leftist criminal nuns who should be in prison for voter fraud.
Non Sequitur Fallacy.

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Deflection FAIL.
Not a deflection at all.

The legal principle is the same: intent

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How?
Your smug belittling of the religious beliefs of others.

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I offer no "excuse" for anything. To characterize my post as such is merely a use of the "Straw Man Fallacy".
"Ghetto" explains many things, doesn't it?
That last is another fallacy called "Argumentum ad Baculum".
"Ghetto" is a colloquialism. I'm not a big fan of PC.
Take your false equivalency of blacks and homosexuals to the black community and see how you fare. Just remember, a Catholic hospital is only a squad ride away.

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Not a deflection at all.
The legal principle is the same: intent
Reading comprehension FAIL.

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Looks like the carpet chewers out in numbers today.
I think the correct term is "muncher".
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The slit lickers and fudge-packers still want to keep marriage a two person thing. Seems if marriage is to be redefined why not the quantity portion as well

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<quoted text>Your smug belittling of the religious beliefs of others.
"smug", "belittling" ?

Descriptive?

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The slit lickers and fudge-packers still want to keep marriage a two person thing. Seems if marriage is to be redefined why not the quantity portion as well
Excellent point.
Once marriage means nothing...it can mean anything.

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