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Jun 17, 2013
 
Goodbye America: Heather MacDonald on Amnesty Bill

by Sara Noble

This post is about a Mark Levin interview with Heather MacDonald which you must hear. Heather MacDonald, a Manhattan Institute scholar, is a John M. Olin fellow and a Contributing Editor to City Journal. She is a journalist and a political commentator who advocates for secular conservatism.

Mark Levin interviewed her on Friday and it is one interview every American should hear, particularly if they want to understand more about the immigration bill.

Mark Levin played a recent clip of Jeb Bush speaking before The Faith and Freedom Coalition as a basis for discussion because Bush repeated all the soundbites on why the amnesty bill is so good for America.

Bush said he wants to fix the immigration system and that the immigration bill is a Conservative idea. We must do it, he asserts, because we need their young people who work hard, will learn English and who play by our rules.

Heather MacDonald was asked to respond and said, they come here “by not playing by our rules and this amnesty bill allows illegals with criminal records, endless arrests, and two misdemeanor convictions.”

Is this “Rove’s strong proof of moral character?” She continued.“We already have discredited enforcement.” At the back of every deportation hearing are protestors with signs that say, no more deportation. Under this bill,“deportation is not going to happen.”

MacDonald addressed the claim that the people here illegally will learn English though nothing in the bill “requires actual acquisition of English.” An attempt to enroll is all that is required. We will have another 30 million people who have failed to adopt our language.

She brought up the fact that Rubio told a Spanish-speaking audience legalization comes first while he is telling English-speaking audiences the opposite. This “a shocking betrayal.”[Read about that on this link]

Senators Sessions and Grassley have called their bluff and offered amendment after amendment that would require border security first – right now, they are legalized from day one – and every amendment was voted down. The bill can only have plans to shut the border, no actual shutting of the border.

Jeb Bush referred to immigrants having intact families.

MacDonald explained that there is no difference between immigrants and American citizens in general. Bush is conflating low skilled and high skilled workers. There is a culture bifurcation among South American immigrants and those from Mexico and Central America which she was reluctant to admit.

She said that she went to a Democratic Latino pollster and asked him to give her the best people in the Latin community to interview – the ones who were the best example. They were all Colombian, Ecuadorian, and Cuban. This immigration bill completely “ignores differences among Latino groups.”

[They are not all the same people because they are Latin]

She said they are not all Sergey Mikhaylovich Brin, the brilliant computer innovator. He came here with a high level of education.

Jeb Bush said he wanted to bring in high skilled workers in his book but he is bringing chain migration instead which brings an even more low-skilled population.

The pro-illegal immigrationists describe immigrants as virtuous, noble, entrepreneurs and put down the natives as inferior to immigrants, especially inferior to illegal immigrants.[Natives are the ones who put them in office] Illegals are supposed to be nurtured – they are so much better.

Is that the case?

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Jun 17, 2013
 
Who leads in poverty in the US?

Hispanics have a twice as high poverty rate with second and third generation receiving much higher welfare. They are working but their skill level is too low. We don’t have engineers sneaking across the border. It is the poor and uneducated escaping the cronyism in their own country.

It is very unusual that among the Hispanic immigrants, their poverty rate goes up in the second and third generations. They are assimilating to the underclass.

We have those who claim (Aiken for one) they will pay for the entitlements such as healthcare.

They will not earn enough to pay for entitlements. More than half are now eligible for the earned income tax credit. The idea that the poor and uneducated will pay is a flawed one.

Paul Ryan claims the bill is not amnesty because it does not wipe the slate clean. Amnesty makes them legal instantly. They were illegal, now they’re legal – that is a pardon – it’s amnesty. Amnesty is not defined as only occurring when the slate is wiped clean, it is legalization which they will have instantly.

The bill supporters talk about the illegals paying their back taxes. They will not come forward and pay them.[The illegals here in NY have fake social security cards and pay taxes. They also get the earned income tax credit because they earn so little.]

The immigration bill is filled with loopholes and exemptions on the issue of fines.

Illegals will have fully legal status. Republicans are not fighting this deceit. Illegals have been give a few trivial hurdles.

Jeb Bush in his speech compared us to Canada whose “economic immigrants” have been of great benefit but what he doesn’t tell you is that Canada is offering a place to high-skilled immigrants, the opposite of this bill. They are requiring they speak English and have advanced skills.

We on the other hand have a mass flow of uneducated immigrants coming into the country.

MacDonald said she’d like to invite Bush to come to the Peco Rivera school in LA where the single mothers go to speak with gang counselors on how to keep their teen males from being swallowed up by the gangs.

Levin asked MacDonald what the single parent household of these “in tact families” actually is. MacDonald said that 53% of births are from single family homes. In 1965, when Blacks reached 23% it was described as a major social catastrophe and it was.

Over-all, out-of-wedlock births in Hispanic households is at 43%, White households are 23%, Blacks are 73% and Asians are 16%.

Another common lie is that illegals must be brought out of the shadows. They are out of the shadows!

Why are we responsible for them and owe them anything? Did we drag them across the border. Because of an absurd footnote in the law, their children are citizens and if families are split, it is because of their conscious decision to take that chance.

The rule of law is not to blame. The illegals themselves are to blame and Republicans are participating in this scheme.

If we abandon our rule of law, we no longer have a country.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/goodbye-am...

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Jun 17, 2013
 
Give Me Your Spouse-Beaters [Child-Beaters and DUI Offenders...]

by Mickey Kaus

Gang of 8 vs. VAWA: Byron York notes some of the shortcomings of the pending Gang of 8 bill’s treatment of illegal immigrants with criminal records: You’re only blackballed when you are convicted of three misdemeanors–an achievement, given the tendency of overworked prosecutors to accept misdemeanor pleas for felony charges. Even three misdemeanors can be waived by Janet Napolitano–or whoever is Secretary of DHS–”in the public interest.” And you have to have been convicted of the misdemeanors on separate days.…

But the most controversial part of the bill might be the specific actual misdemeanors that won’t stop an undocumented immigrant from being more or less instantly legalized: They include, not just DUI offenses, but also domestic violence and child abuse.

Since at least the early ’90s, Democrats have championed and re-championed the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA), a major legislative statement affirming the need to vigorously pursue spousal abuse. It provides funds for victims, finances community prevention programs, shields sexual assault accusers, etc. It can’t be that all this passion goes out the window when a spouse-abuser happens to be an illegal immigrant asking for legalization, can it?…

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/17/give-me-you...

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From today's Dispatch puff piece on immigration:

"Roughly 150,000 people in central Ohio are undocumented residents. And according to census numbers, about 4 percent of the state’s population is foreign-born, with half of them naturalized and eligible to vote. In Franklin County, about 9% of the population in 2011 was foreign-born."

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local...
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Oh... I thought you were leaving.
No one's going to tolerate a third-world USA.

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Presidents Eisenhower and Truman rounded these people up and shipped them back but the country has gone soft and too many men are obsessed with sports, entertainment, homosexuality and pornography to care about the hard values that built Western Civilization.

Pathetic.
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Oliver Canterberry wrote:
Presidents Eisenhower and Truman rounded these people up and shipped them back but the country has gone soft and too many men are obsessed with sports, entertainment, homosexuality and pornography to care about the hard values that built Western Civilization.
Pathetic.
Even more pathetic are those obsessed with the Topix forum.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
-tip- wrote:
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No one's going to tolerate a third-world USA.
Rome wasn't burnt in a day.
Police State

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No one's going to tolerate a third-world USA.
A Third-World? THAT's what you're worried about? Really?

With the whistleblower, Ed Snowden, coming forward with revelations about the US government spying on all Americans.....

The IRS believing it can decide who's worthy.....

The debacle in Benghazi......

You need to really read George Orwell's, 1984. It would do you some good. Maybe a slap in the face to the reality of our government and the good ole US of A.

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Police State wrote:
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A Third-World? THAT's what you're worried about? Really?
With the whistleblower, Ed Snowden, coming forward with revelations about the US government spying on all Americans.....
The IRS believing it can decide who's worthy.....
The debacle in Benghazi......
You need to really read George Orwell's, 1984. It would do you some good. Maybe a slap in the face to the reality of our government and the good ole US of A.
If the Third Worlders become the majority in this country, as the Gang of 8 wants, it's over.

We will have Balkanization.
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Leave.

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Assimilation is great; learning new foods and cultures and art is great; meeting new people with different perspectives is great, but when you begin to feel shut out of your own city it's not so great.
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Wait what wrote:
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Assimilation is great; learning new foods and cultures and art is great; meeting new people with different perspectives is great, but when you begin to feel shut out of your own city it's not so great.
I think I read about that taking place here in the 16th and 17th centuries too.

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I think I read about that taking place here in the 16th and 17th centuries too.
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Native Americans had cities? In the 16th and 17th centuries?

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