Rand Paul: Rush Nails It!

Rand Paul: Rush Nails It!

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Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#1 Mar 11, 2013
But here's the substance of this. There is a fear among McCain, Lindsey Graham, and others who favor an interventionist foreign policy. Think of the neocons. Think of going into Iraq and not just securing Iraq, but building a democracy. Nation building, if you will. Think of the outbreak of the Arab Spring and the people on our side who thought, "Wow, this is wonderful. This is the outbreak of American democracy," when it wasn't. It was the exact opposite. Rand Paul, they're asking themselves, is he his father's son or is he on his own here? They're worried that he's his father's son. They're worried that Rand Paul is an isolationist. They're worried that Rand Paul's diatribe on drones really means that Rand Paul wants to bring the military home and not use it unless we're attacked. He doesn't like it being used in an intervention. This is what they fear. And as he succeeds in making a connection with the American people, they are worried, the neocons are worried that they are being undermined by this.

I'll tell you why. Rand Paul made a connection with the American people. These other people do not. He made a connection. Therefore, he has the ability to influence and motivate people. I'm telling you what their fears are. They thought that Ron Paul was absolute nutcase, wacko. That's why they're calling Rand Paul a wacko,'cause that's what they thought of Ron Paul. Libertarian, fruitcake, nutcase, isolationist, shut down the US military, speak positively about Islamists, all this kind of stuff. They are afraid that's who Rand Paul is, and they're afraid that what Rand Paul was doing with this filibuster was not just speaking out against the use of drones on American citizens on American soil. They're afraid that Rand Paul is actually setting the stage for building up public support to stop the interventionist usage of American military might and foreign policy all over the world. It's a fear that they've got.

And there's more to it than that, too. It's also the whole notion of jealousy in power politics. Let me put it this way. They, I think, are worried that Rand Paul might be skillful enough to move the Republican mainstream away from the McCain, Kristol, neoconservatism view of the world and toward a position that is not as extreme as his father's, but is suspicious of interventionism, suspicious of Islamic democracy building, suspicious of financial and military support for dubious regimes.

So there's all kinds of stuff happening with this filibuster. In addition to the optics, in addition to what was on the surface for everybody to see, the reason McCain is calling Rand Paul and the people that stood up with him wackos is because he thinks that they are extreme kook Libertarians who don't want the US military going anywhere for anything, any time, anywhere, not even to oppose the Islamists, and so there's this fear about it, but he made that connection with people. That's what that whole thing was all about. He's now a national figure. He wasn't wild-eyed and screaming and pounding. He was very rational and very reasonable.

Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#3 Mar 11, 2013
You cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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I am all for keeping the war on the enemies land... as we kill everyone of them and keep that land as our own.
No nation building for savage turd worlders just extermination of them.
Great in theory, except you had doofuses executing it. They refused to listen to those in the know and this is a big reason why people are disgusted with Republicans.

Put it another way. McCain and Graham have a tin ear when it comes to everything else. What makes you think that their views on defense are any more in sync with the masses than their views on anything else?

Remember, Grenada was a simple walk through because Reagan was smart enough to have triple the military might he needed.

The neocons and Rumsfeld wanted to effectively outsource war just like Chase outsources to the Indian call center. IOW, they wanted to do it without staff. Ain't gonna happen.

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