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38 GOP Senators Did Their Jobs Yesterday (Defeated the UN Disablity Treaty)

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Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1 Dec 5, 2012
Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is expected to bring to the Senate floor today the United Nations-drafted Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, sometimes labeled the “international ADA,” despite 36 conservative senators’ warning that the lame-duck session is not a suitable time to take up a controversial measure that lawmakers had previously shown no rush about ratifying. In response, treaty advocates have mounted a campaign to depict it as not really controversial at all, among sophisticates at least. According to the Associated Press, supporters of the measure “stressed that it was modeled after the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act and required no changes in U.S. law.” Per Washington Post writer Dana Milbank, the treaty is an “innocuous” measure that “requires virtually nothing of the United States.” Milbank charges that critics led by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) have been drawn into a stance of “opposing the disabled”(and that certainly does sound awful, doesn’t it?) via the “dark world of U.N. conspiracy theories.”

An editorial urging ratification in the Washington Post takes much the same line, claiming the measure “would not require the United States to change its laws” and blaming opposition on the “far right.” Sure, let’s sign away our national sovereignty on questions of how best to accommodate the disabled. What could go wrong?

Plenty, actually. Anyone who claims the CRPD merely codifies existing U.S. disabled-rights law, as distinct from prescribing major new extensions of it, cannot have read its text with care. Beyond that, the treaty would if taken seriously bid to wrest from the control of elected U.S. lawmakers the future course of many important domestic policy issues, from the structuring of Social Security disability benefits to the question of whether prospective law and medical students should have a right to extra time in taking exams to accommodate their learning disabilities. When it’s pointed out that the convention by its own text requires radical revamping of many existing policies, advocates respond with the peculiar argument that, after all, we shouldn’t take its provisions all that seriously; other ratifying countries are already blithely ignoring their obligations under it, and the United States will be free to do so too, especially as the mechanisms for enforcing it are (for the moment) fairly toothless. It is at best a cynical argument that deserves senators’ rejection.

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The convention consists of a preamble and 50 (!) articles. Under Article 4 (1)(b), ratifying states pledge to “take all appropriate measures, including legislation, to modify or abolish existing laws, regulations, customs and practices that constitute discrimination against persons with disabilities,” and under 4 (1)(d), to “refrain from engaging in any act or practice that is inconsistent” with the convention. Who gets to define whether an existing law, regulation, custom, or practice “constitute[s] discrimination against” the deaf, blind, epileptic, diabetic, or paraplegic? Or — to name a few of the other groups currently deemed disabled — persons afflicted with psychosis, cancer, emotional dysfunction, narcolepsy, learning disability, past alcohol or drug abuse if in rehab, or serious contagious disease? Your guess is as good as the Post editorialists’, except that they seem to have spent no time guessing or so much as thinking about the matter.

Will states and localities have to change their laws, or just the federal government? Glad you asked: Article 4, Section 5 says “The provisions of the present Convention shall extend to all parts of federal states without any limitations or exceptions.”

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Cleavon Hilliard

Columbus, OH

#2 Dec 5, 2012
Yawn. More boring crap from Mr. Cut & Paste.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#3 Dec 5, 2012
Cleavon Hilliard wrote:
Yawn. More boring crap from Mr. Cut & Paste.
We can't help the fact that you're an illiterate who hates America.

“Hi-Yo Silver! Away!”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#4 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>We can't help the fact that you're an illiterate who hates America.
Cut and paste response, repeated 507 times.

Isn't it time for you to do some work around the house?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#5 Dec 5, 2012
Kemosahbe wrote:
<quoted text>
Cut and paste response, repeated 507 times.
Isn't it time for you to do some work around the house?
I keep waiting for your wife to come over and vacuum, Sterling.
Hector

Columbus, OH

#6 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I keep waiting for your wife to come over and vacuum, Sterling.
Your daughter sucks like a Kirby. You taught her well.
Cleavon Hilliard

Columbus, OH

#7 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>We can't help the fact that you're an illiterate who hates America.
Yawn. More boring crap from Mr. Cut & Paste.
Country Blumpkin

Camp Hill, PA

#8 Dec 5, 2012
I always knew the Bush family was against America. Bush I passed the Americans with Disabilities Act. I complete infringement on my freedoms. Bush II signed the treaty. What a traitor!

We cannot allow Jeb Bush to win in 2016. He may try to get this treaty passed yet again. Dick Morris may be right. The UN and the Illuminati are taking over.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#9 Dec 5, 2012
Country Blumpkin wrote:
I always knew the Bush family was against America. Bush I passed the Americans with Disabilities Act. I complete infringement on my freedoms. Bush II signed the treaty. What a traitor!
We cannot allow Jeb Bush to win in 2016. He may try to get this treaty passed yet again. Dick Morris may be right. The UN and the Illuminati are taking over.
You obviously never read the article.
BTW, if the GOP establishment really is stupid enough to put Jeb up for nomination they deserve to and will cease to exist.

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Since: Aug 12

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#10 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I keep waiting for your wife to come over and vacuum, Sterling.
We don't have an extension cord long enough to reach your rattrap tent down by the Scioto. I could bring my gas-powered leaf blower, but it doesn't blow half as hard as you do.
Malcom Z

Dublin, OH

#11 Dec 5, 2012
Another bath house ho down for Friends of Cleavon.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#12 Dec 5, 2012
Kemosahbe wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't have an extension cord long enough to reach your rattrap tent down by the Scioto. I could bring my gas-powered leaf blower, but it doesn't blow half as hard as you do.
When you can get past the HPD profiling task force, you let us know.
Country Blumpkin

Camp Hill, PA

#14 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously never read the article.
BTW, if the GOP establishment really is stupid enough to put Jeb up for nomination they deserve to and will cease to exist.
I read the article as well as the treaty after the Senate voted it down. Have you read the treaty? Yes it talks about new "rights", such as access to certain things. However, it does not require new spending. It does not specify time tables. More importantly, there is nothing in the treaty regarding penalty provisions. Can you show me? So what if Canada thinks we are in violation of the treaty. So what? What can they do about it? There are treaties with real penalty provisions out there, including a lot of our trade treaties. You violate those, and you face sanctions. What sanctions exist here? You will not find any because there are none. In that regard, it is almost a meaningless treaty. However, by ratifying it, it at least tells the world community that we care about people with disabilities and will try our best (however you want to define 'best') to make accomodations.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#15 Dec 5, 2012
Country Blumpkin wrote:
<quoted text>
I read the article as well as the treaty after the Senate voted it down. Have you read the treaty? Yes it talks about new "rights", such as access to certain things. However, it does not require new spending. It does not specify time tables. More importantly, there is nothing in the treaty regarding penalty provisions. Can you show me? So what if Canada thinks we are in violation of the treaty. So what? What can they do about it? There are treaties with real penalty provisions out there, including a lot of our trade treaties. You violate those, and you face sanctions. What sanctions exist here? You will not find any because there are none. In that regard, it is almost a meaningless treaty. However, by ratifying it, it at least tells the world community that we care about people with disabilities and will try our best (however you want to define 'best') to make accomodations.
The ADA of 1990 tells the world all it needs to know. The UN serves no useful purpose to the citizens of the United States...unless they wish to weaken the nation.
Country Blumpkin

Camp Hill, PA

#17 Dec 5, 2012
Karl wrote:
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You have a huge amount of naivete about the UN.
No....you are just paranoid.

“Hi-Yo Silver! Away!”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#19 Dec 5, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>When you can get past the HPD profiling task force, you let us know.
Homeless Panhandling Detachment? That's your posse? I'll just bring a few 40s, that should get me right past them.

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