Obama Calls Catholic Schools "Segregated"

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Who's Hussein?
"In today’s hyper-connected world, what happens here has an impact on lives far from these green shores. If you continue your courageous path toward a permanent peace, and all the social and economic benefits that have come with it, that won’t just be good for you, it will be good for this entire island. It will be good for the United Kingdom. It will be good for Europe. It will be good for the world.
We need you to get this right. And what’s more, you set an example for those who seek a peace of their own. Because beyond these shores, right now, in scattered corners of the world, there are people living in the grip of conflict -- ethnic conflict, religious conflict, tribal conflicts -- and they know something better is out there. And they’re groping to find a way to discover how to move beyond the heavy hand of history, to put aside the violence. They’re studying what you’re doing. And they’re wondering, perhaps if Northern Ireland can achieve peace, we can, too. You’re their blueprint to follow. You’re their proof of what is possible -- because hope is contagious. They’re watching to see what you do next.
Now, some of that is up to your leaders. As someone who knows firsthand how politics can encourage division and discourage cooperation, I admire the Northern Ireland Executive and the Northern Ireland Assembly all the more for making power-sharing work. That’s not easy to do. It requires compromise, and it requires absorbing some pain from your own side. I applaud them for taking responsibility for law enforcement and for justice, and I commend their effort to “Building a United Community”-- important next steps along your transformational journey.
Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity -- symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others -- these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it. If towns remain divided -- if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs -- if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation.
Ultimately, peace is just not about politics. It’s about attitudes; about a sense of empathy; about breaking down the divisions that we create for ourselves in our own minds and our own hearts that don’t exist in any objective reality, but that we carry with us generation after generation.
And I know, because America, we, too, have had to work hard over the decades, slowly, gradually, sometimes painfully, in fits and starts, to keep perfecting our union. A hundred and fifty years ago, we were torn open by a terrible conflict. Our Civil War was far shorter than The Troubles, but it killed hundreds of thousands of our people. And, of course, the legacy of slavery endured for generations.
Even a century after we achieved our own peace, we were not fully united. When I was a boy, many cities still had separate drinking fountains and lunch counters and washrooms for blacks and whites. My own parents’ marriage would have been illegal in certain states. And someone who looked like me often had a hard time casting a ballot, much less being on a ballot.
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You failed to answer the question.
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You failed to answer the question.
There's no reason to answer it, because it assumes something that's not true.

Read the entire speech. I've posted a link twice. Read it and find out what he actually "called for".

Beyond that, he's advocated for peace between religious factions in plenty of countries where people are being killed as a result of divisive religious friction.

You simply don't pay attention.

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
...Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity -- symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others -- these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it. If towns remain divided -- if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs -- if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation...
The Muslim-Jewish/Christian conflict predates and vastly supersedes the scope of the Irish Troubles.

So...when has Hussein visited a Muslim nation and publicly advocated for the desegregation of Muslim vs. Jewish and/or Christian schools, housing, and facilities...?

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On Thursday, the American Catholics for Religious Freedom fired back on President Obama’s words to 2,000 young people at the G8 Summit, stating,“President Obama’s anti-faith, secular agenda was shamefully on full display yesterday when he told the young people of Northern Ireland that Catholic education and other faith-based schools were divisive and an obstacle to peace. All Americans of faith should be outraged by these comments which clearly telegraph the President’s belief system and are in fact at their core even anti-American.”

American Catholics for Religious Freedom points out that the media has completely ignored the story, and adds,“Secular progressives like President Obama ignore the truth that faith-based education is a component of the Religious Freedom guaranteed by the Constitution. He can’t bear the thought that Catholic and parochial schools not only teach important values but consistently produce better educational results at lower cost than America’s failing public schools. The President’s troubling values are showing here in a way that demonstrate just how dangerous this Administration is and how committed it is to eroding the rights of all people of faith.”

And, they note, this is the same President who has attempted to cram down anti-Catholic doctrine via Obamacare.“It’s time Americans stood up for Religious Freedom, for the U.S. Constitution and against President Obama’s radical views about the place of faith in American life,” the group concludes.
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Reading a speech like President Obama's speech makes me proud to be an American.
It sure does.

But what a terrible travesty that he would tell young Irish protestants and Catholics to take a leading role in continuing the pursuit of peace in their formerly war torn Nation.

I can see why Tippy and Paco would be so upset. Peacefully living among and with those they used to despise takes away all of their fun.

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RU_Kiddingme wrote:
Reading a speech like President Obama's speech makes me proud to be an American.
An American what? Muslim?
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The Muslim-Jewish/Christian conflict predates and vastly supersedes the scope of the Irish Troubles.
So...when has Hussein visited a Muslim nation and publicly advocated for the desegregation of Muslim vs. Jewish and/or Christian schools, housing, and facilities...?
Read the entire speech, instead of one paragraph. He did not "publicly advocate desegregation" of religious schools in Ireland.

There is a not so subtle difference between talking about the effects of racial segregation and telling people to step up and continue to work for peace, and "advocating desegregation of private religious schools".

Toss your victim act aside and learn to read.

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Obama would like to shut down all Christian schools and mandate government schools only as a means of spreading his message of Dictatorship through one party rule as occurs in African Nations like Zimbabwe where there are elections but only one candidate. I guess Obama is being true to his roots.
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Oliver Canterberry wrote:
Obama would like to shut down all Christian schools and mandate government schools only as a means of spreading his message of Dictatorship through one party rule as occurs in African Nations like Zimbabwe where there are elections but only one candidate. I guess Obama is being true to his roots.
Where did you read about that? Paco been giving you the links to Glenn Beck?

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Obama would like to shut down all Christian schools and mandate government schools only as a means of spreading his message of Dictatorship through one party rule as occurs in African Nations like Zimbabwe where there are elections but only one candidate. I guess Obama is being true to his roots.
His 'roots' are from Kenya and according to most anthropologist, YOUR roots also started there.

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You think Hussein would go to a Muslim nation and lecture them about their needed desegregation of Muslim v. Jewish/Christian schools?
And object to decapitations and consumption of human hearts and livers! He could also mention not to stone homosexuals in the future!

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RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Not true. Most Muslim-Other Abrahamic traditions conflicts began in 1948. The people of the three faiths lived peacefully before that.
Watch out for the birds, Tippi.
Eat your heart out?????

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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> His 'roots' are from Kenya and according to most anthropologist, YOUR roots also started there.
Why don't you and him go there, permanently?

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Not true. Most Muslim-Other Abrahamic traditions conflicts began in 1948. The people of the three faiths lived peacefully before that.
Watch out for the birds, Tippi.
Confirmation that you failed World History.
No surprise.

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Read the entire speech, instead of one paragraph. He did not "publicly advocate desegregation" of religious schools in Ireland.
There is a not so subtle difference between talking about the effects of racial segregation and telling people to step up and continue to work for peace, and "advocating desegregation of private religious schools".
Toss your victim act aside and learn to read.
woof
Obama's exact words:

"...If towns remain divided -- if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs -- if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation...."

His message is clear -- Catholics and Protestants should not be segregated in any way at all for any reason, whether religious or secular -- as "it discourages cooperation."

And, again...please document where Hussein has made the same declaration to a Muslim nation regarding Muslim vs. Jewish/Christian inhabitants.

Obama's comments were foolish and insulting, considering that our U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, including religious education.

He is an embarrassment to American principles.
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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> His 'roots' are from Kenya and according to most anthropologist, YOUR roots also started there.
The roots of Western European Civilization come from Romans, Vikings, Germans, French and have nothing to do with Africa, even the name "Africa" came from Romans while the Greeks called Africa "Ethiopia" which means "Land of the Blacks."

Obama's chaos, incompetence and constant crisis is how African Tribal Chieftains and Witch Doctors controlled their people by keeping things in a constant state of confusion. After five years of this insanity most sane people realize what a mistake is was to make this man whose father had dual citizenship in Britain and Kenya the most powerful man in the world.

O the insanity of White Guilt, Affirmative Action, Quotas, anti-White immigration and Reparations.

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Confirmation that I've studied beyond Eurocentric versions of World History.
Probably no surprise.
Yet you refused to respond to my post asking you about the years 700 through 1300. Why is that?

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<quoted text>Yet you refused to respond to my post asking you about the years 700 through 1300. Why is that?
Indeed.
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Obama's exact words:
"...If towns remain divided -- if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs -- if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation...."
His message is clear -- Catholics and Protestants should not be segregated in any way at all for any reason, whether religious or secular -- as "it discourages cooperation."
And, again...please document where Hussein has made the same declaration to a Muslim nation regarding Muslim vs. Jewish/Christian inhabitants.
Obama's comments were foolish and insulting, considering that our U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, including religious education.
He is an embarrassment to American principles.
Your reading comprehension skills are an embarrassment to the schools charged with educating you. Take a speech writing class. Learn about context, and audience.

He said nothing even close to what you are suggesting.

Your hatred for Mr. Obama interferes with your ability to comprehend a simple, uplifting, positive speech about peace in Northern Ireland, and forces you to confusedly conclude that the subject of the speech is private schooling.

Crazy man, you are.

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Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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The roots of Western European Civilization come from Romans, Vikings, Germans, French and have nothing to do with Africa, even the name "Africa" came from Romans while the Greeks called Africa "Ethiopia" which means "Land of the Blacks."
Obama's chaos, incompetence and constant crisis is how African Tribal Chieftains and Witch Doctors controlled their people by keeping things in a constant state of confusion. After five years of this insanity most sane people realize what a mistake is was to make this man whose father had dual citizenship in Britain and Kenya the most powerful man in the world.
O the insanity of White Guilt, Affirmative Action, Quotas, anti-White immigration and Reparations.
So educated whites voted for him TWICE because they felt guilt? Total BS, you just have to accept the fact that so-called intelligent white men have been screwing up this country with wars, crony capitalism, laws that favor big finance for years. Now that a face that's shades darker than those presidents of the past, is continuing the BS, you guys yell a little louder.

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