Mental disorders in children

Sep 21, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Marion Star

B raydon Bell didn't stay in one place long. He was 3 years old and was a member of a preschool class.

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“animis opibusque parati”

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#2 Sep 23, 2013
FTA: "...a total of 13 percent to 20 percent of children living in the United States have a mental disorder in a given year."

WTH?
The cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#3 Sep 23, 2013
Shove The DSM4 wrote:
Caused by Vaccines
ADD is not.caused by vaccines. It is a result of kids not having chores / work to tire them out, along with a deficiency of leather.
You take these kids and make them work they will sit still in school, if they don't beat their ass with a belt.

No drugs just discipline

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#4 Sep 23, 2013
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FTA: "...a total of 13 percent to 20 percent of children living in the United States have a mental disorder in a given year."
WTH?
Seriously, I don't know that I could doubt that. Look at the epidemic of abuse we have--single parent homes with incompetent parents. Look at the epidemic cyclical addiction problems we have in this country. And we expect our children to be mentally healthy and have good coping and relationship skills and be able to trust the world around them?

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#6 Sep 23, 2013
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/childi...

FTA: "...If they were to step outside of the paradigm, they might, rather than asking the question 'does a child have ADHD?', asking the more salient question,'Is ADHD ( or autism or bipolar disorder or OCD for that matter) the way we as a culture use the term, a 'real' thing, or is it an artificial construct defined by the DSM system and perpetuated by the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries?'"....
The cannot kill a Spook

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#7 Sep 23, 2013
100 Percent R Stupid wrote:
<quoted text> you are 100% stupid
And you are a cockroach that can type.

Spare the rod spoil the child. Drug the child and the create a drug addled Obama voter type.
The cannot kill a Spook

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#9 Sep 23, 2013
-tip- wrote:
http://www.boston.com/lifestyl e/health/childinmind/2013/09/i n_the_age_of_dsm_5_what_is_no. html
FTA: "...If they were to step outside of the paradigm, they might, rather than asking the question 'does a child have ADHD?', asking the more salient question,'Is ADHD ( or autism or bipolar disorder or OCD for that matter) the way we as a culture use the term, a 'real' thing, or is it an artificial construct defined by the DSM system and perpetuated by the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries?'"....
They don' t get much repeat sales on leather belts unlile the pills

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#10 Sep 23, 2013
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http://www.boston.com/lifestyl e/health/childinmind/2013/09/i n_the_age_of_dsm_5_what_is_no. html
FTA: "...If they were to step outside of the paradigm, they might, rather than asking the question 'does a child have ADHD?', asking the more salient question,'Is ADHD ( or autism or bipolar disorder or OCD for that matter) the way we as a culture use the term, a 'real' thing, or is it an artificial construct defined by the DSM system and perpetuated by the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries?'"....
No doubt, that big pharma has a role to play here. I do think at times that ADHD is often over diagnosed. But I can't help but to wonder if broken homes, single parent homes, huge issues of addictions within family units, and the violence out there, that we really aren't seeing kids with mental health issues.

NAMI breaks it down a bit differently. I don't know what they mean by the statement of "20% of children with mental disorders are identified and receive mental health services." Really, even though they provide the source as from the US Public Health Service, they surely haven't counted all mentally ill children, and it would be awfully hard to extrapolate a reasonable number of mentally ill children and know for certain if they'd been officially diagnosed.

Can see though that a reasonable idea would be there are more severely depressed children, children unable to cope reasonably well in a classroom, children who are not learning they have a reliable parent or guardian, etc.

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#12 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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No doubt, that big pharma has a role to play here. I do think at times that ADHD is often over diagnosed. But I can't help but to wonder if broken homes, single parent homes, huge issues of addictions within family units, and the violence out there, that we really aren't seeing kids with mental health issues...
Sadly, I'm sure you are correct that a percentage of children face actual mental health issues. However, I have observed many financially-stable, intact families buy into a teacher's opinion that their child suffers from ADHD and who then promptly visit the ped for a scrip.

Because so many do, there is no longer any stigma to putting your child on meds. But, heck, half the parents are on meds...

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#13 Sep 23, 2013
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Because so many do, there is no longer any stigma to putting your child on meds. But, heck, half the parents are on meds...
True. I think most parents these days are medicated, at least self-medicated. Sad.

As for mental illness, I have difficulty with the idea of keeping a stigma on it, in any context, though.
The cannot kill a Spook

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#14 Sep 23, 2013
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Sadly, I'm sure you are correct that a percentage of children face actual mental health issues. However, I have observed many financially-stable, intact families buy into a teacher's opinion that their child suffers from ADHD and who then promptly visit the ped for a scrip.
Because so many do, there is no longer any stigma to putting your child on meds. But, heck, half the parents are on meds...
And thus easier to mold into.helpless sheep. Think these high profile shootings by "nut.cases" are just coincidence with the most evil president in our history.

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#15 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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True. I think most parents these days are medicated, at least self-medicated. Sad.
As for mental illness, I have difficulty with the idea of keeping a stigma on it, in any context, though.
Correct, actual mental illness should carry no stigma.
What I mean to convey is that med use among children is now so commonplace that parents openly discuss it; there was a time when such matters would be kept private.

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#16 Sep 23, 2013
The cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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And thus easier to mold into.helpless sheep. Think these high profile shootings by "nut.cases" are just coincidence with the most evil president in our history.
Absolutely. Someone detailed the common thread among the recent mass killings and it was...anti-psychotics. Now, we find out that some of our nation's children are overprescribed these very meds.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/08/12/us-p...

“Queen of my domain”

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#17 Sep 23, 2013
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Correct, actual mental illness should carry no stigma.
What I mean to convey is that med use among children is now so commonplace that parents openly discuss it; there was a time when such matters would be kept private.
After all, the NSA will know anyhow!

Seriously, that's a good point. What happened to discretion and providing information on an as-needed basis? I don't think it's necessary to be ashamed of a medical condition, but why do things like this have to fed to the world in general?

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#18 Sep 23, 2013
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Correct, actual mental illness should carry no stigma.
No more stigma than someone breaking their leg in a car accident. You diagnose and fix the problem. Of course, there are those who seek to take away the rights of those diagnosed with a mental illness (and they lump them all together for the purpose), the result of which will be more people NOT seeking help.

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#19 Sep 24, 2013
A scapegoat for bad behavior...and a racket for Big Pharma.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-243...

Why ARE so many people being labelled bipolar? More and more celebrities say they have it, but here a top psychiatrist warns the disorder is far too readily diagnosed, leaving many trapped on 'zombie' pills

- What it means to be bipolar has undergone a transformation

- Once seen as rare and disabling, it now vaguely refers to 'mood swings'

- The drugs used to treat the condition are powerful, harmful - and profitable

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-243...
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#20 Sep 24, 2013
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C eh N eh D eh

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#22 Sep 24, 2013
Vaccine Caused wrote:
http://whale.to/a/thrower.html
Is that your excuse? eh?
Enzyte Bob

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#23 Sep 24, 2013
Everything seems to be a mental disorder these days. Although modern psychiatry and medication can help people operate at an optimal level, I often wonder if these are really disorders or if it's just the way God made us and God didn't make everybody so that they are able to sit at a desk all day.

I guess at the end of the day, if athletes take drugs so they can perform better, why shouldn't everyday people.

(There are people with some serious problems and modern medicine continues to evolve. I'm just talking about those who might be a little off.)
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#24 Sep 24, 2013
The cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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ADD is not.caused by vaccines. It is a result of kids not having chores / work to tire them out, along with a deficiency of leather.
You take these kids and make them work they will sit still in school, if they don't beat their ass with a belt.
No drugs just discipline
I think the bigger issue is that not everybody is wired to sit at a desk or to read. You would be surprised by the number of insanely successful people who are ADD, dyslexic or have other mental "disabilities". Ted Turner and the guy who started Jet Blue are good examples.

I think the bigger issue is to channel people where the type of work they do compliments their skills.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#25 Sep 24, 2013
Successful people with ADD:

Famous actors and entertainers with ADD/ADHD: Will Smith, Jim Carey, Tom Cruise, Sylvester Stallone, Robin Williams, Whoopi Goldberg, Henry Winkler, Patty Duke, and Bill Cosby.

Famous athletes with ADD/ADHD: Michael Jordan, Bruce Jenner, Magic Johnson, Nolan Ryan, Terry Bradshaw, Babe Ruth, Greg Louganis, Vince Lombardi, and Pete Rose.

Famous artists with ADD/ADHD: Pablo Picasso, Ansel Adams, Vincent Van Gogh, and Salvador Dali.

Famous authors with ADD/ADHD: Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Leo Tolstoy, Robert Frost, and Edgar Allen Poe.

Famous business tycoons with ADD/ADHD: Bill Gates, Ted Turner, Malcolm Forbes, Andrew Carnegie, William Randolph Hearst, Henry Ford, FW Woolworth, and Walt Disney.

Famous Hollywood movie directors with ADD/ADHD: Steven Spielberg and Alfred Hitchcock,

Famous inventors with AD/ADHD: Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, Orville Wright, Wilbur Wright, and Alexander Graham Bell.

Famous musicians with ADD/ADHD: John Lennon, Elvis Presley, Cher, Buddy Rich, Beethoven, Mozart, and Handel.

Famous politicians with ADD/ADHD: US: President John F. Kennedy, President Thomas Jefferson, President Abraham Lincoln, President Dwight Eisenhower, President George Bush, and President George W. Bush. International: Anwar Sadat and Winston Churchill.

Famous scientists with ADD/ADHD: Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Nicolai Tesla, Louis Pasteur, Galileo, and Sir Isaac Newton

Other famous people with ADD/ADHD: Eleanor Roosevelt, General George Patton, Norman Schwartzkopf, Christopher Columbus, Socrates, Napoleon, Nostradamus, and Evil Knievel.

A lot of people with ADD/ADHD find enormous success in more than one career- just look at Suzanne Somers or Joan Rivers. Suzanne Somers is a huge Hollywood TV star turned entrepreneur (she has highly successful fitness, clothing, and jewelry lines), turned best-selling author. Like wise, Joan Rivers is comedienne turned radio and TV star, turned entrepreneur (her jewelry line is carried by QVC).

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