CHRISTMAS tradition
Duke for Mayor

Medina, OH

#62 Dec 27, 2013
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no way to tell what he was doing. His writing is almost as garbled as Walter's. That's why I asked the question.
I used to like you somewhat but you are out of control. You are just saying the same things over and over. Why the hostility? You have been on here, hourly since Christmas Eve. Why?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Medina, OH

#63 Dec 27, 2013
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> Did you know that the word Atheist comes from the Greeks who called Herodotus" Atheos" because he stopped believing in the gods of their city-state! It doesn't mean non-belief in a higher spiritual power.
The term atheism originated from the Greek &#7940;&#952;&#949 ;&#959;&#962; (atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshipped by the larger society. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word "atheist" lived in the 18th century.
Are you employed?

woof
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#64 Dec 27, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I used to like you somewhat but you are out of control. You are just saying the same things over and over. Why the hostility? You have been on here, hourly since Christmas Eve. Why?
woof
Nice try, Gammy Dizzy.

“I AM GOING TO BE CRABBY”

Since: Apr 10

TILL THIS ELECTION IS OVER!

#65 Dec 27, 2013
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> Did you know that the word Atheist comes from the Greeks who called Herodotus" Atheos" because he stopped believing in the gods of their city-state! It doesn't mean non-belief in a higher spiritual power.
The term atheism originated from the Greek &#7940;&#952;&#949 ;&#959;&#962; (atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshipped by the larger society. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word "atheist" lived in the 18th century.
Thank you for those facts.
There are endless sites about atheism, which I scanned.
To each his own, I guess.
Hope you holiday was good.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#66 Dec 27, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Are you employed?
woof
Hey dude...you are fooling nobody.

Its really is pretty pathetic that you are apparently so upset at the things I write that you feel it necessary to impersonate me.

Hope it makes you feel as good as it does me. You realize of course, it means that I am winning, right?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Medina, OH

#67 Dec 27, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey dude...you are fooling nobody.
Its really is pretty pathetic that you are apparently so upset at the things I write that you feel it necessary to impersonate me.
Hope it makes you feel as good as it does me. You realize of course, it means that I am winning, right?
woof
Have I lost my mind or what?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Columbus, OH

#68 Dec 27, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
You realize of course, it means that I am winning, right?
woof
Just don't mention Nazis!

woof
Duke for Mayor

Medina, OH

#69 Dec 27, 2013
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try, Gammy Dizzy.
I have been dizzy lately.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Medina, OH

#70 Dec 27, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey dude...you are fooling nobody.
Its really is pretty pathetic that you are apparently so upset at the things I write that you feel it necessary to impersonate me.
Hope it makes you feel as good as it does me. You realize of course, it means that I am winning, right?
woof
You could slap your half, if that would make you feel better.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Anonymous Proxy

#71 Dec 27, 2013
Look at me! I've learned a new trick from Walt. You can teach old dogs new tricks.

Woof.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#72 Dec 29, 2013
Merry 5th day of Christmas!!!

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#73 Dec 29, 2013
dunadd wrote:
Merry 5th day of Christmas!!!
Golden Rings refers to the first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch", which gives the history of man's fall from grace.

Shhh... that happy little song has a CHRISTIAN basis...:)
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#74 Dec 29, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Golden Rings refers to the first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch", which gives the history of man's fall from grace.
Shhh... that happy little song has a CHRISTIAN basis...:)
Here's a surprise. You are wrong.

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/musi...

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#75 Dec 29, 2013
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Here's a surprise. You are wrong.
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/musi...
Snopes has been known to be wrong or inaccurate as well...allegory can be interpreted many ways in this instance. But I stand by my premise that it is its premise that it has a basis in Christianity. After all, there are twelve days of Christmas in all reality, and the allegory is there.(Christmas actually lasts until the 12th night, or Epiphany).

Seriously, do you have to find something to fight over, constantly? SHOVE IT, Che.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#76 Dec 29, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
Snopes has been known to be wrong or inaccurate as well...allegory can be interpreted many ways in this instance. But I stand by my premise that it is its premise that it has a basis in Christianity. After all, there are twelve days of Christmas in all reality, and the allegory is there.(Christmas actually lasts until the 12th night, or Epiphany).
Seriously, do you have to find something to fight over, constantly? SHOVE IT, Che.
Wrong again. Wrong wrong wrong but you still argue the point.

What a stupid f cking moron!
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#77 Dec 29, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Snopes has been known to be wrong or inaccurate as well...allegory can be interpreted many ways in this instance. But I stand by my premise that it is its premise that it has a basis in Christianity. After all, there are twelve days of Christmas in all reality, and the allegory is there.(Christmas actually lasts until the 12th night, or Epiphany).
Seriously, do you have to find something to fight over, constantly? SHOVE IT, Che.
Of course it has a basis in Christianity, Laverne. It's a CHRISTMAS song. Your assertion was specifically about the meaning of the five gold rings. Here's another source for you:

"According to The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes, "Suggestions have been made that the gifts have significance, as representing the food or sport for each month of the year. Importance [certainly has] long been attached to the Twelve Days, when, for instance, the weather on each day was carefully observed to see what it would be in the corresponding month of the coming year. Nevertheless, whatever the ultimate origin of the chant, it seems probable [that] the lines that survive today both in England and France are merely an irreligious travesty."[1]

In 1979, a Canadian hymnologist, Hugh D. McKellar, published an article, "How to Decode the Twelve Days of Christmas", claiming that "The Twelve Days of Christmas" lyrics were intended as a catechism song to help young Catholics learn their faith, at a time when practising Catholicism was criminalized in England (1558 until 1829). McKellar offered no evidence for his claim and subsequently admitted that the purported associations were his own invention.[27] The idea was further popularized by a Catholic priest, Fr. Hal Stockert, in an article he wrote in 1982 and posted online in 1995,[28][29] In 1987 and 1992, Fr. James Gilhooley, chaplain of Mount Saint Mary College of Newburgh, New York repeated these claims.[30][31] None of the enumerated items would distinguish Catholics from Protestants, and so would hardly need to be secretly encoded.[3]

William S. and Ceil Baring-Gould suggest that the presents sent on the first seven days were all birds—-the "Five gold rings" were not actually gold rings, but refer to the five golden rings of the ringed pheasant.[32] Others suggest the gold rings refer to "five goldspinks"—a goldspink being an old name for a Goldfinch;[33] or even canaries.[34] However, the 1780 publication includes an illustration that clearly depicts the "five gold rings" as being jewelry.[8]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Days_... (song)

Perhaps you have a source for your claim.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#78 Dec 29, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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Wrong again. Wrong wrong wrong but you still argue the point.
What a stupid f cking moron!
Hey, boy, who wrote that Snopes piece? It's not even attributed. It's been debated as long as I can remember. I'll stand by my assertion.

There ARE 12 days of Christmastide.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#79 Dec 29, 2013
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it has a basis in Christianity, Laverne. It's a CHRISTMAS song. Your assertion was specifically about the meaning of the five gold rings. Here's another source for you:
"According to The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes, "Suggestions have been made that the gifts have significance, as representing the food or sport for each month of the year. Importance [certainly has] long been attached to the Twelve Days, when, for instance, the weather on each day was carefully observed to see what it would be in the corresponding month of the coming year. Nevertheless, whatever the ultimate origin of the chant, it seems probable [that] the lines that survive today both in England and France are merely an irreligious travesty."[1]
In 1979, a Canadian hymnologist, Hugh D. McKellar, published an article, "How to Decode the Twelve Days of Christmas", claiming that "The Twelve Days of Christmas" lyrics were intended as a catechism song to help young Catholics learn their faith, at a time when practising Catholicism was criminalized in England (1558 until 1829). McKellar offered no evidence for his claim and subsequently admitted that the purported associations were his own invention.[27] The idea was further popularized by a Catholic priest, Fr. Hal Stockert, in an article he wrote in 1982 and posted online in 1995,[28][29] In 1987 and 1992, Fr. James Gilhooley, chaplain of Mount Saint Mary College of Newburgh, New York repeated these claims.[30][31] None of the enumerated items would distinguish Catholics from Protestants, and so would hardly need to be secretly encoded.[3]
William S. and Ceil Baring-Gould suggest that the presents sent on the first seven days were all birds—-the "Five gold rings" were not actually gold rings, but refer to the five golden rings of the ringed pheasant.[32] Others suggest the gold rings refer to "five goldspinks"—a goldspink being an old name for a Goldfinch;[33] or even canaries.[34] However, the 1780 publication includes an illustration that clearly depicts the "five gold rings" as being jewelry.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Days_... (song)
Perhaps you have a source for your claim.
http://catholicism.about.com/b/2013/12/26/cel...
http://www.catholic.net/index.php...
"...With this as a background we can see the need for secrecy and deception.“The Twelve Days of Christmas” was written to educate the faithful in the doctrines of the faith and yet not be obvious to the persecutors. The numbers are simply a mnemonic to help Catholics remember some basic facts. Recall the words of the song.“On the twelfth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: twelve lords a leaping, eleven pipers piping, ten ladies dancing, nine drummers drumming, eight maids a milking, seven swans a swimming, six geese a laying, five golden rings, four calling birds, three French hens, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree.”
“The Twelve Days of Christmas” celebrates the official Christmas season which starts liturgically on Christmas Day and ends twelve days later on the Feast of the Epiphany.“My true love” refers to God,“me” is the individual Catholic. The “twelve lords a leaping” are the twelve basic beliefs of the Catholic Church as outlined in the Apostles Creed..."
Father Edward T. Dowling, S. J, author.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#80 Dec 29, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
http://catholicism.about.com/b/2013/12/26/cel...
http://www.catholic.net/index.php...
"...With this as a background we can see the need for secrecy and deception.“The Twelve Days of Christmas” was written to educate the faithful in the doctrines of the faith and yet not be obvious to the persecutors. The numbers are simply a mnemonic to help Catholics remember some basic facts. Recall the words of the song.“On the twelfth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: twelve lords a leaping, eleven pipers piping, ten ladies dancing, nine drummers drumming, eight maids a milking, seven swans a swimming, six geese a laying, five golden rings, four calling birds, three French hens, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree.”
“The Twelve Days of Christmas” celebrates the official Christmas season which starts liturgically on Christmas Day and ends twelve days later on the Feast of the Epiphany.“My true love” refers to God,“me” is the individual Catholic. The “twelve lords a leaping” are the twelve basic beliefs of the Catholic Church as outlined in the Apostles Creed..."
Father Edward T. Dowling, S. J, author.
Read the comments after your article. Have fun.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#81 Dec 29, 2013
Here's a more complete explanation:

http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymn...

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