New Pope denounces Capitalism...Right...

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#146 Dec 7, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text>.“Someone in the crowd said to Him [Jesus Christ],‘Teacher, tell my brother to divide the family inheritance with me.’ But He said to him,‘Man, who appointed Me a judge or arbitrator over you?’”
I thought that Je sus came to judge all things!
Your misconception is nobody's fault but your own.
Conservative

Dayton, OH

#147 Dec 7, 2013
When the Pope makes a reference about the poor and hungry, I don't think in his wildest imagination does the U.S. come to mind as a prime example.

America has no concept of poverty and hunger and we are one of the largest Capitalist nations on Earth.

If you have served in the Middle East, in India, in Vietnam or in many other so called 3rd world countries, there, you have seen poor and hungry.

The poor in our country are fat. The poor in our country live better and have homes larger than most Middle Class families in Europe.

Poverty is defined as living in a household that earns less than half of the national median. The key here is the word EARNS. No where in the description does it take into account subsidized or free housing, food stamps, welfare etc.

If your family income is $10,000 a year, you are wealthier than 84 percent of the world. If it's $50,000 or more a year, you make more than 99 percent of the world.

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#148 Dec 7, 2013
The Pope's real God! He knows the evils done to Africa in the name of Rome and wants forgiveness and charity to the poor before he dies.

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#149 Dec 7, 2013
The "New" Pope wants to support the people everything was stolen from. He asked forgiveness to the queen mother.

http://bpatpiwh.blogspot.com/2013/03/two-pope...
Female

Chillicothe, OH

#150 Dec 7, 2013
Conservative wrote:
When the Pope makes a reference about the poor and hungry, I don't think in his wildest imagination does the U.S. come to mind as a prime example.
America has no concept of poverty and hunger and we are one of the largest Capitalist nations on Earth.
If you have served in the Middle East, in India, in Vietnam or in many other so called 3rd world countries, there, you have seen poor and hungry.
The poor in our country are fat. The poor in our country live better and have homes larger than most Middle Class families in Europe.
Poverty is defined as living in a household that earns less than half of the national median. The key here is the word EARNS. No where in the description does it take into account subsidized or free housing, food stamps, welfare etc.
If your family income is $10,000 a year, you are wealthier than 84 percent of the world. If it's $50,000 or more a year, you make more than 99 percent of the world.
When you speak of the poor in our county and what all they have, at the same time you want all these things taken away. Most don't care if they beg in the streets along w/ their families.

“Meh.”

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#151 Dec 7, 2013
Conservative wrote:
When the Pope makes a reference about the poor and hungry, I don't think in his wildest imagination does the U.S. come to mind as a prime example.
America has no concept of poverty and hunger and we are one of the largest Capitalist nations on Earth.
If you have served in the Middle East, in India, in Vietnam or in many other so called 3rd world countries, there, you have seen poor and hungry.
The poor in our country are fat. The poor in our country live better and have homes larger than most Middle Class families in Europe.
Poverty is defined as living in a household that earns less than half of the national median. The key here is the word EARNS. No where in the description does it take into account subsidized or free housing, food stamps, welfare etc.
If your family income is $10,000 a year, you are wealthier than 84 percent of the world. If it's $50,000 or more a year, you make more than 99 percent of the world.
Are you quite sure? So far as I can tell, the social structure out here (in Europe) means that the poor are much better here, let along the middle class. Could you talk a bit more about what you think the European middle class looks like, as well as what you see as the day to day reality of those in poverty in the US?

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#152 Dec 7, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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Are you quite sure? So far as I can tell, the social structure out here (in Europe) means that the poor are much better here, let along the middle class. Could you talk a bit more about what you think the European middle class looks like, as well as what you see as the day to day reality of those in poverty in the US?
You don't pay for your own defense

You lack economic dynamism

Your fertility rates are in the gutter

Islam is eating your countries

Poverty in the US is a mainly black-brown problem. Which is an IQ and illegitimacy problem. Gov policy can't do much about that.

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#153 Dec 8, 2013
Conservative wrote:
When the Pope makes a reference about the poor and hungry, I don't think in his wildest imagination does the U.S. come to mind as a prime example.
America has no concept of poverty and hunger and we are one of the largest Capitalist nations on Earth.
If you have served in the Middle East, in India, in Vietnam or in many other so called 3rd world countries, there, you have seen poor and hungry.
The poor in our country are fat. The poor in our country live better and have homes larger than most Middle Class families in Europe.
Poverty is defined as living in a household that earns less than half of the national median. The key here is the word EARNS. No where in the description does it take into account subsidized or free housing, food stamps, welfare etc.
If your family income is $10,000 a year, you are wealthier than 84 percent of the world. If it's $50,000 or more a year, you make more than 99 percent of the world.
And how was all this possible? If I had the choice I'd withdraw billions of foreign aid and use it to re-build desperate communities and our manufacturing and industries.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#154 Dec 8, 2013
The topix title is New Pope denounces Capitalism, GOD is not mentioned in the title, so being I don't have to defend GOD I shall stick to the topix title.
Capitalism is a method of earing money and the Catholic Church depends on its parishioners giving money in forms of tithes and offerings and Capitalism is an excellent method of earning money. But if the Pope denounces capitalism is fine and good but I will have to reread the article to find out if the Pope is actually denouncing Capitalism.
Capitalism is a good resource for resources. In the respect it takes money to ride the train. It takes money to do anything. Even walking, You walk enough and you'll have to buy a new pair of footcovers which costs in money.

“The One! The Only! RUKiddingme”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey, Baby!

#155 Dec 8, 2013
Conservative wrote:
When the Pope makes a reference about the poor and hungry, I don't think in his wildest imagination does the U.S. come to mind as a prime example.
America has no concept of poverty and hunger and we are one of the largest Capitalist nations on Earth.
If you have served in the Middle East, in India, in Vietnam or in many other so called 3rd world countries, there, you have seen poor and hungry.
The poor in our country are fat. The poor in our country live better and have homes larger than most Middle Class families in Europe.
Poverty is defined as living in a household that earns less than half of the national median. The key here is the word EARNS. No where in the description does it take into account subsidized or free housing, food stamps, welfare etc.
If your family income is $10,000 a year, you are wealthier than 84 percent of the world. If it's $50,000 or more a year, you make more than 99 percent of the world.
Even Pope Benedict specifically called out the United States' economic system as "disordered".
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#156 Dec 8, 2013
disordered. That's a good choice of words. Most, not all but most, things man has anything to do with is or at the very least becomes disordered.
Name something that started out good that did not become disordered. by man.
wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#157 Dec 8, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Your misconception is nobody's fault but your own.
How's this for a so-called misconception! It is the western hemisphere who's been deceived into gross misconceptions.

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wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#158 Dec 8, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't pay for your own defense
You lack economic dynamism
Your fertility rates are in the gutter
Islam is eating your countries
Poverty in the US is a mainly black-brown problem. Which is an IQ and illegitimacy problem. Gov policy can't do much about that.
Poverty in the US has become a colorless condition with more people who're the working poor for fortune 500 companies who forces people on government assistance because of low and stagnant wages. You always leave out poor whites, don't you!

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#159 Dec 8, 2013
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> And how was all this possible? If I had the choice I'd withdraw billions of foreign aid and use it to re-build desperate communities and our manufacturing and industries.
In fiscal year 2011, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:
Total economic and military assistance:$49.5 billion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_fo...

Obama's 2009 "stimulus," the ARRA, was $787 billion (roughly 16 TIMES as much money.)
How did that work out, Bruce?
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#160 Dec 8, 2013
Female wrote:
<quoted text> When you speak of the poor in our county and what all they have, at the same time you want all these things taken away. Most don't care if they beg in the streets along w/ their families.
Seriously?! "Most don't care if they beg in the streets along w/ their families." Perhaps the most uneducated comment I've read this evening. I'm glad your world travels/getting out of your hick town have served you well./s/s/s/s/s/s
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#161 Dec 8, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text> Poverty in the US has become a colorless condition with more people who're the working poor for fortune 500 companies who forces people on government assistance because of low and stagnant wages. You always leave out poor whites, don't you!
I'm not certain, but I believe that the US may be one of the few countries who could consider cable TV and smartphone users to be in true poverty.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#162 Dec 8, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text> Poverty in the US has become a colorless condition with more people who're the working poor for fortune 500 companies who forces people on government assistance because of low and stagnant wages. You always leave out poor whites, don't you!
You can't have it both ways WA.

It's a numerical truth that poverty is disproportionately black/brown. The left, including yourself, loves to harp on that as the result of "discrimination" and "structural racism".

Then when one of us brings out the argument that you are just racializing anger at whites, you bring up the "poor whites" false canard.

Inequality is increased because of one primary factor. Immigration.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#163 Dec 9, 2013
the working poor for the fortune 500 companies.
Classic out of Das Kapital. You are a wonderful socialist, wisea.
All you blacks have to do is go to work for your socialist government, in other words, getta job!
Your great god and savior bamah is trying to get as many of you as you want on the government dole or rather workforce but it is a dad burn shame you might have to actually go somewhere to sit out your 8 hours to draw a paycheck and that ain't as good as sitting on your sittee and drawing a check, is it?
Real poverty. Nigeria and other African countries. does their governments furnish them cable and smartphones?
The only ones in my family who ain't working are those old enough to retire and some of them are still working but they didn't take any jobs away from the black workforce because of a four letter word that begins with a w, not an f which you wouldn't know about because it begins with a w and not an f.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#164 Dec 9, 2013
60% of the money going to Catholic coffers comes from the capitalist US
STFU

Arlington Heights, IL

#165 Dec 9, 2013
Scheherazade wrote:
I am digging the new Pope. He's forward thinking and a testament to the church looking out for our poor and hungry and holding our capitalist overlords responsible and accountable to the citizenry. this is a tenet of his role in his papacy. I'm VERY VERY anxious to hear what the right wing fundamentalist corporate-loving Rethugs have to say about this.......
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Tuesday, Nov 26, 2013 01:08 PM EST
Pope Francis: Capitalism is “a new tyranny”
"The culture of prosperity deadens us," the pope writes in a document laying out the platform for his papacy
Katie Mcdonough
Pope Francis on Tuesday called capitalism “a new tyranny” and very explicitly called on global leaders to act on poverty and growing inequality.
Francis’ remarks are part of an 84-page document known as an apostolic exhortation, which makes official the platform for his papacy.
The document is incredibly direct in its call for specific, policy-level action to fight institutional inequality rather than speaking broadly and loftily about poverty as some kind of abstraction or something to be addressed exclusively by charitable giving at the community level, as some of his predecessors have been content to do.
[An excerpt:]
How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points? This is a case of exclusion. Can we continue to stand by when food is thrown away while people are starving? This is a case of inequality. Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape.
Human beings are themselves considered consumer goods to be used and then discarded. We have created a “disposable” culture which is now spreading. It is no longer simply about exploitation and oppression, but something new. Exclusion ultimately has to do with what it means to be a part of the society in which we live; those excluded are no longer society’s underside or its fringes or its disenfranchised – they are no longer even a part of it. The excluded are not the “exploited” but the outcast, the “leftovers”.
In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.
You "dig" the new pope? You "dig"? When was the last time you were in a Catholic church, or, any church for that matter? Back in the 60's? Typical liberal hater. You only find Jesus and religion when it suits your fancy.

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