Seattle: Communist Revolution, coming soon

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Nov 19, 2013
 
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/seattle-city-...

It appears that nearly a century after they last pulled this stunt, that their memory has gone weak.
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Nov 20, 2013
 
Does anyone remember the 20s. No, not the 1920s, two 20s of January, precisely 2009 and 2013. The swearing in of the communist, oops, I mean socialist.
This woman is on a city council. there aren't any communists in the federal government!

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Hilliard, OH

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Nov 21, 2013
 
Things are speeding right along in Seattle:

Seattle’s newest councilmember urges Boeing workers to seize factories

Here’s the inevitable follow-up on the election of a Socialist to the Seattle City Council — although perhaps sooner than anyone would have thought. Boeing has tried working for years with its unions in the state of Washington, but still cannot reach agreements on labor contracts for its manufacturing facilities. The aerospace giant has looked for other regions in the US to build its planes, which has angered the unions and the Obama administration. It’s also provided an opportunity for Seattle’s newest councilmember to launch her anti-capitalist agenda, and she’s wasted no time in doing so … even before officially taking office:

Seattle City Councilmember-elect Kshama Sawant told Boeing machinists her idea of a radical option, should their jobs be moved out of state

“The workers should take over the factories, and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine,” Sawant announced to a cheering crowd of union supporters in Seattle’s Westlake Park Monday night.…

On Monday night, she spoke to supporters of Boeing Machinists, six days after they rejected a contract guaranteeing jobs in Everett building the new 777X airliner for eight years, in exchange for new workers giving up their guaranteed company pensions.

Now Boeing is threatening to take those jobs to other states.“That will be nothing short of economic terrorism because it’s going to devastate the state’s economy,” she said.

So what wouldn’t be “economic terrorism”? Seizing the company’s property, of course:

Sawant is calling for machinists to literally take-possession of the Everett airplane-building factory, if Boeing moves out. She calls that “democratic ownership.”

“The only response we can have if Boeing executives do not agree to keep the plant here is for the machinists to say the machines are here, the workers are here, we will do the job, we don’t need the executives. The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do,” she said.

Well, Seattle voters elected her, so they get what they deserve, but perhaps we should point out a couple of inconvenient realities for Sawant. The machinists don’t own the plants, but that’s only just the beginning. Unless the machinists own the designs, they can’t build the planes unless licensed by those who do. And where will they get the raw materials with which to build the planes? Who pays for the energy necessary to operate the machines?

That’s not to say that the machinists can’t build their own planes, of course. They could open up their own business, design their own planes, and build planes themselves, but they’ll need to find an awful lot of capital with which to do it. That means they’d still have to deal with executive management imposed by the VC sources and labor cost controls, which would certainly include getting rid of any notion of defined-benefit pension systems. Then they’d need to compete on price in order to sell the planes, and find people willing to buy them at all when Boeing is still producing proven models in South Carolina.
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Nov 21, 2013
 

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The American voter. I've said it dozens of times, they are stupid.

They'll end up losing every job and then they'll blame the person they voted for.

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Nov 21, 2013
 

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The American voter. I've said it dozens of times, they are stupid.
They'll end up losing every job and then they'll blame the person they voted for.
I was in Charleston on business a few years ago and toured some completed areas the plant as it was under construction. The Boeing people there are chomping at the bit to bring as much of the Everett and Seattle operations to South Carolina as soon as they can. The 777X project was leaning toward Charleston even before this insanity. Look for it to happen now.
How bad is it in Seattle? So bad that Boeing moved their corporate offices to Chicago, of all places. After 75 years. That's saying something.
Boeing is also in the process of moving all of its airline maintenance and flight training ops out of the Seattle area to Miami.
The writing's on the wall.
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#6
Nov 21, 2013
 
those bordering the Pacific are not called the left coast for nothing. A lot of California businesses have moved east, a lot to Texas, some of the inhabitants have pulled up stakes and moved east but a lot of the socialists have taken their socialism and moved north into Oregon and Washington.

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Nov 21, 2013
 
Conservative wrote:
The American voter. I've said it dozens of times, they are stupid.
They'll end up losing every job and then they'll blame the person they voted for.
The City Council is only 9 Democrats to 1 (open) Socialist. They still have a ways to go to ruination.
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Nov 21, 2013
 
This communist is pushing for a $15 minimum wage even though Washington's minimum wage is the highest in the country. It is unbelievable. Do these airheads think that money grows on trees? What happens when a cheeseburger at McDonald's costs $5 in order to pay for higher wages? People will stop buying them, and the workers will end up making $0 per hour.
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Nov 21, 2013
 
“We can re-tool the machines to produce mass transit like buses, instead of destructive, you know, war machines,” she told KIRO 7.

What is this hag smoking? They are going to "re-tool" the machines? They are going to take war machines like the 787 and the 777X out of the air and replace them with.. buses?!? There is something seriously wrong with her.
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Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>I was in Charleston on business a few years ago and toured some completed areas the plant as it was under construction. The Boeing people there are chomping at the bit to bring as much of the Everett and Seattle operations to South Carolina as soon as they can. The 777X project was leaning toward Charleston even before this insanity. Look for it to happen now.
How bad is it in Seattle? So bad that Boeing moved their corporate offices to Chicago, of all places. After 75 years. That's saying something.
Boeing is also in the process of moving all of its airline maintenance and flight training ops out of the Seattle area to Miami.
The writing's on the wall.
When any major Corporation moves their Corporate Offices from a location that they were in for many years, as you said, the hand writing is on the wall and people believe threats of strikes, walkouts and taking over plants are going to improve things.

Everything has a level at which once it is crossed there is no alternative but to leave or close the doors.

I know personally Utility workers who make hourly $36.00 plus benefits. They seem confused when I ask, How much can you make before the company says, ENOUGH!! and either reduces manpower, benefits and starts subcontracting?
I guess if they move all their projects from Seattle the former employees could take over the plant(s) and convert them into new housing after they lose their homes but of course it's because BIG BUSINESS is greedy and all they want is their fair share.

How valuable are employees? Good ones are priceless but the reality is that I don't know of one person including CEO's that weren't replaced the next day when that person quit, died or retired.
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The City Council is only 9 Democrats to 1 (open) Socialist. They still have a ways to go to ruination.
I don't see much difference in the two.
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FreeLunchInSeattle wrote:
This communist is pushing for a $15 minimum wage even though Washington's minimum wage is the highest in the country. It is unbelievable. Do these airheads think that money grows on trees? What happens when a cheeseburger at McDonald's costs $5 in order to pay for higher wages? People will stop buying them, and the workers will end up making $0 per hour.
As labor goes up so does the cost of the product. They make more, they pay, they pay more taxes, in the end it's a zero gain except for those who will lose their jobs to help keep prices down.

Today, it cost me almost $9.00 for 2 fish sandwiches and a medium order of fries, no drink at McDonald's. Double their salary and I wouldn't go again. I could go to a restaurant but if it's across the board. I'll stay home.

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Nov 22, 2013
 
More democratic damage, it just does not stop!
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Nov 22, 2013
 
I don't see any difference between/in the two!

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I don't see much difference in the two.
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Jan 17, 2014
 
Can you not understand what she is doing... It isn't just about Boeing... it's about ALL companies who think they can turn around and say to their workers...'hey guys, work here and lose your pension... but keep your jobs'. She is fighting against this on every level, so no ones job is just, expendable.

Also, things about, economy and energy costs... we're talking about this too, if the workers take the factories, you expect that to be the case in ALL industries that rob it's people.. such as energy companies who charge high costs to use their energy, but pay low wages and inflate their costs whenever they please... it's a global situation, not a one state mindset. Where's the vanguard when you need em.

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