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Fights hospitalize Noble prisoners | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 20 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from May 6, 2009, titled Fights hospitalize Noble prisoners | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Another state prison has been rocked by violence as racially motivated fights broke out over the weekend at the Noble Correctional Institution in Caldwell, Ohio, 80 miles southeast of Columbus.

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kenneth young

Dublin, OH

#1 Oct 6, 2009
i think this is crap. i was at nobe corrections during the insident mentioned here in may and another a few weeks later i was a cook in the kitchen. these fights are because there is nothing to do in the prison you have to wait until you are 6 months short to get into any program or imediate schooling besides pre ged and ged courses the programs they mention on there website is a lie. over half of them they dont even have because of a staff problem so out of 2500 inmates maybe 30 to 60 inmates are in ged or pre ged. thats it again i know this first hand because i was there i seen the tension and felt the anger in everyone there will be more incidences like this everyone fails to see or listen to the inmates because they are inmates, but what they are saying is true..one incident happened before i got my judical release was a guy named milhouse attempted to kill himself on or aroundseptember 1st because he was denied his parol. and the counselors and staff didnt want to acknowledge his problem. he was taken to an out side hospital foe surgery. noone hears all this.they only want to blame it on no smoking policies or some sort of overcrowding problem..
like i said my name is kenneth young i can be reached at [email protected]
i only speak the truth because i was there tt see all this
the truth

Lorain, OH

#2 Oct 9, 2009
there are there because they are crimanls noy yo learn a hobbie want to give thme something to do bring back the old chain gangs make them grow a garden make there own food who cares if one went to the hospital who cares if they all go to the hospital let them kill each other less of a burdan on the tax payer IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME

Since: Sep 09

Columbus, OH

#3 Oct 9, 2009
the truth wrote:
there are there because they are crimanls noy yo learn a hobbie want to give thme something to do bring back the old chain gangs make them grow a garden make there own food who cares if one went to the hospital who cares if they all go to the hospital let them kill each other less of a burdan on the tax payer IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME
This guy again...I can't BELIEVE he didn't say it was Obama's fault! SOME people are criminals (madoff) and DESERVE everything they get. Some people make a mistake and need a "wake-up" call like doin' a lil time. However, if they are NOT given access to the resources they need in order to even SEE another, better way of life then the cycle just repeats itself as planned. You think the economy is bad now? Imagine if CRIME stopped...all the cops, C.O.'s, lawyers, judges, politicians, and media personalities who's job it is to keep you living in fear of your neighbors, co-workers, and strangers would be out of a job. You have a point about the untapped labor force that could be put to a better use. But until people begin to realize that MOST of these folks, whether right or wrong, chose crime because they didn't think they had any better options NOT because they are born criminals. It ain't gonna happen. I know a caucasian female who made a mistake, albeit a DUMB one, but still she did her 30 days and is now on probation for 2 years. But she cannot get a job that meets the cost of living for a human being because she is a felon. So, now she is on "assistance". And that helps society how?
kenneth young

Columbus, OH

#4 Oct 9, 2009
the truth wrote:
there are there because they are crimanls noy yo learn a hobbie want to give thme something to do bring back the old chain gangs make them grow a garden make there own food who cares if one went to the hospital who cares if they all go to the hospital let them kill each other less of a burdan on the tax payer IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME
your right if you cant do the time dont do the crime.but at the same sence.if there are no opertunitys to better yourself in there.because of lack of funding for guys who try to better themselves buy trying to gey a ged or some sort of schooling trade,that they say is ofered but isnt because of short staffing or overcrowding, also to get to a point you made about let them kill each other..someone you know or a freind of a freind im sure has been in jail you know. maybe even you possibly, gets put on probation for 3 yrs. now what do you do..your only seeing one side of this.its possible your neighbor who has lived next to you all your life or even your brother goes to prison. im pretty sure you would think differant about all this.you can be a law abbiding citezen all your life then one day you get pulled over for speeding you get out of the car talk to the officer. everythings going great. then the officer dose or says somthing you dont like or understand. next thing your in court .judge sentences you to 60 in prison.. ive seen it happen to normal ordinary law abiding people.you have to take the good with the bad. you have to...the court systems these days have so much authority now and the laws change so much everyday. that you cant even spit on the sidewalk or yell at your kids in a store for being out of hand,without getting charged with verbal asault to them. anyways your only seeing one side of this.. you have tunnel vision and need to open your eyes more to actually see whats going on.. dont get me wrong yes some people deserve to go to prison. but at least let them hate it enough were they hate it. and get into some sort of trade for the ones who want to do better and realize there wrongs
Debbie

United States

#5 Oct 9, 2009
This economy is forcing alot of people into doing what they have to do to survive. Look at the statistics, ex; The granny Robber.
Where our system fails is to just lock a bunch of people up together and let them fend for their life. Don't do the crime is a wash up excuse. Take a look at the courts today. The police and courts are over eager in given charges today. Don't get me wrong punishment is a must for criminals, but these judges and lawyers that are getting kick backs from the state should be judged themselves. I know alot of police officers are just as dirty as the criminals, but of course they are above the law. Who is policing the police? We need to help the prisoner's by taking care of their needs such as education. If we get to the core of the problem, the problem will solve itself.
disgusted vet

Coshocton, OH

#6 Oct 9, 2009
Kenneth, I'm glad to see your attitude. I hope you make it. I agree that no one listens to the inmates. I cannot see it getting any better any time soon. With the lack of funding, fraud and waste an inmate doesn't have much chance to improve himself. Chain gangs are a good idea to occupy some time but there isn't enough staff to man them. Most people don't know that inmates work at the governor's mansion, in the state office tower downtown (where they walk from the tower to the capital un-escorted every day) and are out doing community service details all across the state daily. They want them working but not in their back yards. Specially if one walks off which does happen on occasion. It is hard to find inmates who can be classed for community release at times. Sad vet...I now understand why you are a hater. Had trouble with WEST West Virginia aryan brotherhood...no surprises there with your prejudices and attitude. I also understand why you weren't able to use your GI Bill. Stop blaming everyone else for what you did wrong. Grow up...Man up...Move on. Obama is not going to save you from yourself. Get yourself back into a 12 step program. The VA offers residential programs for you at Brecksville Clinic in Cleveland. If you cannot change the situation you are in, change the way you think about it. Only you can control your thoughts and make the change. You have to want to. One day at a time. Did you forget that when you left?

Since: Sep 09

Columbus, OH

#7 Oct 16, 2009
Kenneth, You are a good man and I agree with your point of view 100%. People like "disgusted vet" who get off on trying to antagonize others who are obviously their mental superiors are usually aligned with "the truth" and his warped sense of self-righteousness. That mentality only feeds and fosters the kinds of violence that leads to stories like this one. That being said, I'd love to find myself locked-up with him so I could "teach" him about respect.
the truth

Dubois, IN

#8 Nov 2, 2009
sad vet we dont have to get locked up for you to teach me any thing my father was a top member of the arian brother hood spent his whole life in prison did not wont to get out if you want to help the poor pirsoners go give some time teach a hobbie do you an MR holy kenneth do that bet not but i did for three years wnet twice a week only people that showed up wanted to get out of there cells so dont go all holy on me i have seen prison life and if you want to teach me something name the time an place sad vet

Since: Sep 09

Columbus, OH

#9 Nov 4, 2009
the truth wrote:
sad vet we dont have to get locked up for you to teach me any thing my father was a top member of the arian brother hood spent his whole life in prison did not wont to get out if you want to help the poor pirsoners go give some time teach a hobbie do you an MR holy kenneth do that bet not but i did for three years wnet twice a week only people that showed up wanted to get out of there cells so dont go all holy on me i have seen prison life and if you want to teach me something name the time an place sad vet
Somebody let me know when this guy writes this in English...LOL! I am now "sad" for you. Poor little jail orphan. Never learned to read and write. Or manners and respect.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#10 Nov 4, 2009
Sad Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Somebody let me know when this guy writes this in English...LOL! I am now "sad" for you. Poor little jail orphan. Never learned to read and write. Or manners and respect.
Mental superior to disgusted vet? The truth can't read or write? Check your sentence structure and grammar. You are an idiot. It is no wonder that you had problems with the Aryans. How can you teach anything from PC?
Debbie

Fairborn, OH

#11 Nov 4, 2009
This whole thing is sad. One guy writes his experiences in Noble, and it has blown up to this. For you fools who think you are superior to others I will pray for you. Let me tell you something Mr. Guy that calls himself the truth- I will keep you ontop of my prayer list and ask The good Lord to overlook your fool self. I will pray that you will never have to experience what us parents of prisoner's or prisoner's themselves have to go through. Crime is crime, and I agree that they have to be punished. But, can't you realistically see that by the ignorant remarks you make are no better than a criminals mind. "Let them all go to the hospital". I feel sorry for you. What is it like to have a family that never gets into trouble, or even get a traffic ticket? You must have a perfect family and extended family and perfect friends that never get into trouble. Oh, and even a traffic ticket, makes you a law breaker too. Or are you so insensitive that if one of your children gets into trouble you can just write them off like they never existed, and don't really care for their safety while under state control? If you can't be more constructive, stay off here, we don't need more morons- We need to try and figure out how we can help these kids that get into drugs and trouble. I want to thank Kenneth for the advice that he game me. It has been a help.
THE TRUTH

Dubois, IN

#12 Nov 12, 2009
Debbie wrote:
This whole thing is sad. One guy writes his experiences in Noble, and it has blown up to this. For you fools who think you are superior to others I will pray for you. Let me tell you something Mr. Guy that calls himself the truth- I will keep you ontop of my prayer list and ask The good Lord to overlook your fool self. I will pray that you will never have to experience what us parents of prisoner's or prisoner's themselves have to go through. Crime is crime, and I agree that they have to be punished. But, can't you realistically see that by the ignorant remarks you make are no better than a criminals mind. "Let them all go to the hospital". I feel sorry for you. What is it like to have a family that never gets into trouble, or even get a traffic ticket? You must have a perfect family and extended family and perfect friends that never get into trouble. Oh, and even a traffic ticket, makes you a law breaker too. Or are you so insensitive that if one of your children gets into trouble you can just write them off like they never existed, and don't really care for their safety while under state control? If you can't be more constructive, stay off here, we don't need more morons- We need to try and figure out how we can help these kids that get into drugs and trouble. I want to thank Kenneth for the advice that he game me. It has been a help.
well miss thang, you want rights to be given to the poor inmates lets not forget that im not a inmate!so if i want to get on here an voice my opion thats my RIGHT what your kid in jail deal with it no im not perfect i get trafic tickets i have familey and friends ih jail but they did the crime they have to do the time an they are they are not getting out an getting on ther p.c crying about how they were treated. so mr sad vet you an miss debbie can cry on each others shoulder all you want!!!! but get over it prision is not sunday school .DO THE TIME IF YOU DO THE CRIME
THE TRUTH

Dubois, IN

#13 Nov 12, 2009
BETTER TALK TO YOUR GOD ABOUT CALLING PEOPLE FOOL. AINT THAT AGIANST HIS RULES
kenneth young

Zanesville, OH

#14 Nov 18, 2009
i dont think a few of you are really grabbing the concept of what i wrote or why i wrote it. i didnt write this for people to bash on one another.but i do realize people do have there opinions about this,i was hopping to inform people about how bad the prison system is and how hard it is to get the nessesary help while someone is in there.thats the problemn the overcrowding will never go away.everyone thinks they know but unless you were there,and unless people stand up and write or call ted stricklin and keep pushing him for better rehabilitation for the prisoners the prison population is going to keep growing and getting worse and be like a revolving door. and guys will continue to be repeat offenders due to not having the tools nessesary to help them.someone can violate there porole or probation just buy crossing the street.because each court has there own set of rules and conditions. there is no one set of rules.listen everyone im just voicing my oppinion, and its a first hand opinion because i was there. the prison system needs help,there are to many people in there with no home to go to no job to go to. there are no aftercare programs or facilitys to get the right help. id like to see the revolving door go away, building new prisons isnt to answer. its the programs that are needed. i believe debbie has the same opinion i have.and other people need to stand up and do somthing before one of there family members end up in prison for somthing stupid.dont say it cant happen to you, it can just dont wait until that happens

Since: Sep 09

Columbus, OH

#15 Nov 20, 2009
THE TRUTH wrote:
<quoted text>well miss thang, you want rights to be given to the poor inmates lets not forget that im not a inmate!so if i want to get on here an voice my opion thats my RIGHT what your kid in jail deal with it no im not perfect i get trafic tickets i have familey and friends ih jail but they did the crime they have to do the time an they are they are not getting out an getting on ther p.c crying about how they were treated. so mr sad vet you an miss debbie can cry on each others shoulder all you want!!!! but get over it prision is not sunday school .DO THE TIME IF YOU DO THE CRIME
THIS is EXACTLY what I'm talking about and his "cronies" too. My sentence structure was written the way I intended for it to be, UNLIKE those of you who really think that the drivel you write actually makes sense and your idiocy is unintended and natural.
Brenda Wickmann

Pleasantville, OH

#16 Nov 26, 2009
how could this happen ? sounds like what happens on the street. co have a job to do . what they sleeping on the job ' inmates hurt. WHAT THE HELLS GOING ON WITH ARE TAX PAYING MONEY! AND 32 PERCENT ABOVE CAPACITY THATS NOBLE COUNTY PROBLEM NOT THE INMATE THEY ARE THERE TO DO THER TIME THE STATE SENT THEM THERE THEY HAD NO CHOICE WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE SENT ! WAKE UP OHIO LETS GET SOME DRUG TREATMENT CENTER MAYBE WONT BE OVER CROWED IN THESE PRISONS.MOST ARE THERE FOR WHERE THEIR ADDICTION HAS LET TO CRIME THIS MAKES ME SICK
WAY TO GO CO DO YOUR JOB ITS YOUR JOB IF YA GET HURT THATS THE CHANCE YOU TAKE WHEN YA TOOK THE JOB I WORRY BOUT THE INMATES SAFEY
CMH Rick

Columbus, OH

#17 Nov 26, 2009
Brenda Wickmann wrote:
how could this happen ? sounds like what happens on the street. co have a job to do . what they sleeping on the job ' inmates hurt. WHAT THE HELLS GOING ON WITH ARE TAX PAYING MONEY! AND 32 PERCENT ABOVE CAPACITY THATS NOBLE COUNTY PROBLEM NOT THE INMATE THEY ARE THERE TO DO THER TIME THE STATE SENT THEM THERE THEY HAD NO CHOICE WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO BE SENT ! WAKE UP OHIO LETS GET SOME DRUG TREATMENT CENTER MAYBE WONT BE OVER CROWED IN THESE PRISONS.MOST ARE THERE FOR WHERE THEIR ADDICTION HAS LET TO CRIME THIS MAKES ME SICK
WAY TO GO CO DO YOUR JOB ITS YOUR JOB IF YA GET HURT THATS THE CHANCE YOU TAKE WHEN YA TOOK THE JOB I WORRY BOUT THE INMATES SAFEY
It happenes because these scum are in prison. Got it! I think the guards should just pull out and then throw knives over the wall and let the prisoners kill each other until only one is left. That would solve the overcrowding problem. That would also save the taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
crig hooper

Wheeling, WV

#18 Feb 11, 2011
i just left noble n i was a aryon brother . The smoking band n the prison being so pack is the reason for alot of the fights b/c since the prison is so pack they short us on food they give us used clothes n people steal food n new clothes n that causes fights there is no place to sit or walk or to use the rec stuff n that causes fights n when the cigs do come n all the gangs try to talk control of the cigs b/c its a need a real stress re leaver n its worth alot of money now i was a AB n we ran the prison b/c we was so ruthless n we stuck up for r/own kind b/c the blacks would try to gang up on lil white kids n try to take all there stuff or even try to have sex w/ them b/c 90% of the blacks was gay there n when we would see that we would step up n tell them no ur not doing that to him n most of the time they would back down but if the kid or even old person had money they would try to fight but we won . we wasnt the bad guys there we help alot of people out but we was the strongest n we had the most numbers of people we stood up to n e gang n just a nobody could not b a AB u had to b tough n brave n ready to go to war at n e time i love all of my brothers w all my heart we was like a big family n was there for each other at all times none of us went w/out food or clothes n we didnt steal thats wrong but we would walk up to u and take ur stuff if u was a piece of trash alot of pleple have the wrong idea of us the aryon brother hood im telling u if u have a son or father or grangpal n there n hes white and he dont act black he is safe trust me if n e body that is reading this and has contact w a AB n noble tell them i send my love n respect n to stay strong...To the state of ohio bring back smokeing n get the prisons from being over pack n the fighting will stop about 75% n check into ur ass hole c/os they cause alot of fights to

Since: Mar 13

Coraopolis, PA

#19 May 5, 2013
They should just club the crap out of them, then tramp on their heads. Problem solved
Concen in col Ohio

Columbus, OH

#20 Nov 30, 2016
CMH Rick wrote:
<quoted text>It happenes because these scum are in prison. Got it! I think the guards should just pull out and then throw knives over the wall and let the prisoners kill each other until only one is left. That would solve the overcrowding problem. That would also save the taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
My brother in law was found dead in his cell they said but I was told ther no cells but the hole .they won't tell us what happen he was only 38 his name was alzone gabbert 1122 2016 if any body see this on new or paper please share we don't know there not saying nothing

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