Did Obama lie to the American People ...

Did Obama lie to the American People on healthcare?

Created by Oliver Canterberry on Nov 5, 2013

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“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#52 Nov 10, 2013
Petra wrote:
Obama has admitted in his radio spots that a main objective of Obamacare is to reduce insurance premiums paid by women.
What Obama doesn't say is that women now pay higher premiums because they use medical services at at least 1.5x the yearly rate as men use medical services.
Obamacare is designed to reduce premiums for women and shifting the cost to everyone else, especially men.
Obamacare is yet another legal privilege that Obama has created for diversity people, in this case women.
Except it ISN'T lowering the cost for women.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#53 Nov 10, 2013
mike deserving wrote:
No. We were just not smart enough to understand what the President really meant. Even if Obamacare isn't very good yet, at least now everybody can have it. And that's what's important.
Yeah, but with all the full time jobs going to part time, more people would have qualified for medicaid anyway, without this stupid law.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#54 Nov 10, 2013
Biggie BC wrote:
No.
These junk policies were going to expire within a year anyway, so, what's the diff? The state mandates the kind of auto coverage you have. Whats the diff?
about $7000 a year is all.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#57 Nov 11, 2013
This lie of Obama's is the greatest single lie ever told by an American President, committing fraud to an entire country. The lies of other Presidents don't compare.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#58 Nov 11, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't the penalties the equivalent of the self-insurance bond?
No, because, the bond is refundable (with interest, by the way) should the person stop driving or buy insurance. Now if the plan were to, say, refund the "penalty" if you didn't have that amount of medical expenses, it would be roughly equivalent.
Quit whining. It's unbecoming.
Pointing out logical fallacies is hardly whining.
Petra

Cincinnati, OH

#59 Nov 11, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Except it ISN'T lowering the cost for women.
ACA doesn't lower premiums for married women with family insurance.

Single women will get discounted medical insurance with better coverage, as Obama planned.

Obama has stated publicly that a primary goal of ACA is to help women that cannot afford all of the coverage they desire and to help women who have been denied insurance plans because they have pre-exisiting conditions.

Under ACA the cost of subsidizing the extra medical coverage for these women is to be disributed among everybody.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#62 Nov 11, 2013
Petra wrote:
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ACA doesn't lower premiums for married women with family insurance.
Single women will get discounted medical insurance with better coverage, as Obama planned.
Obama has stated publicly that a primary goal of ACA is to help women that cannot afford all of the coverage they desire and to help women who have been denied insurance plans because they have pre-exisiting conditions.
Under ACA the cost of subsidizing the extra medical coverage for these women is to be disributed among everybody.
There is no discount. Everybody's costs are going up. Even women's (or is that womens'... never could get that straight).
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#63 Nov 12, 2013
Even Bill Clinton has gone on record that Obama has lied to the American People and needs to fix his broken down Obama Care Power grab.

Yes, Obama lied;
Health Care died.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#64 Nov 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Auto insurance isn't required to pay for wax jobs, tires, and oil changes. Also you can choose to self-insure (post a bond with the BMV) or you can choose not to drive.
and what the state mandates is liability, not collision.

so the state demands what you wreck of others you pay for, and give a hoot about your car.

apples to apples comparison.......you must have medical insurance to provide medical attention to anyone you hurt by accident or on purpose.

it is up to you to carry collision or healthcare for yourself.

The communists are failing to spin auto liability demands from states to operate a vehicle, as equal to demanding healthcare.

Why don't states demand comprehensive insurance to repair your own vehicle?

loons are easy to walk over, just like making everyone part time eluding the communist take over.

loons strike, company leaves.

You can not debate or educate rocks. Crushing them not so difficult. Half this country is dust in the wind anyway.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#66 Nov 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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You can't mean to tell me you actually paid for your lobotomy.
and for you to realize you have been duped is above your ability...I am sorry.

if I am so stupid, them why am I salt in open wounds to you communists?

and if my tin hat is to tight, why does it bother you so?

does it really bother you someone actually risked everything to start a business, sold everything to fund it, and forced my family for a few years to live miles below our means?

or is it I am white and you think I took it from you?

reality is a salesperson who does what they say, and diligently works to improve customers position by delivering results, will be rewarded with orders, and re-orders, and more re-orders.

then commission checks arrive as invoices are paid by customer. i went over a year prior to closing the 1st account in my now 5 year old business. That is something none of you loudmouths would ever do, and also a reason why I am sitting in a good place now.

i literally walked out of a 450K house giving my ex the middle finger, and started over just 5 years ago.
Got re-married to the Doc, and she is my largest cheerleader. 2013 i will earn more than double the Doc does.

so tell me again how stupid I am, and I will show you how to earn customers who refuse to lose my representation.

how do you think I got sales overseas? It is because of trust, and my delivering the goods. When you start writing 5 million dollar checks, let me know. All of my customers do, and I get paid 3% of it.

the next 5 years I will earn more than the Doc has collectively through out her life.
Petra

Cincinnati, OH

#69 Nov 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no discount. Everybody's costs are going up. Even women's (or is that womens'... never could get that straight).
Nonsense.

Women, particularly single women, are loudly supporting the ACA.

Woman want extra medical services that they couldn't afford beforehand, but can now afford under ACA. The cost of the extra services women want are being carried by everybody, instead of by women.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#70 Nov 12, 2013
Petra wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense.
Women, particularly single women, are loudly supporting the ACA.
Woman want extra medical services that they couldn't afford beforehand, but can now afford under ACA.
I guess you haven't seen the premiums. Millions of people, men AND women, have been complaining about them. Why do you think that is? Where is this $2500 a year the average family is supposed to save?
The cost of the extra services women want are being carried by everybody, instead of by women.
That's not particularly news. And it is a miniscule part of the cost of this boondoggle.
Pale Rider

AOL

#71 Nov 12, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
His lips were moving, and not just up snd dowm reggie loves peter, so yes he lied
If your lips are moving, you are lying.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#72 Nov 13, 2013
Petra wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense.
Women, particularly single women, are loudly supporting the ACA.
Woman want extra medical services that they couldn't afford beforehand, but can now afford under ACA. The cost of the extra services women want are being carried by everybody, instead of by women.
and the same single women murder at will, and consider the Government a husband, because real men run from them.

fact check by using the word single and woman in sentence to describe militant lesbians demand someone pay attention to them.

want to hear massive screaming....if a woman can end birth with murder calling it women's right, then men can abort wives when they no longer are convenient.

Equality.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#73 Nov 13, 2013
You cannot believe anything the Obama Clown has to say. His new song:

I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#74 Nov 13, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
You cannot believe anything the Obama Clown has to say. His new song:
I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire
The ring of fire.
Obama is indeed a clown, yet despite the lies and madness the Republican Part is still fearful of going after Obama as they have gone after previous White Presidents for far less than Obama's outrageous lies.

The race card still works every time Obama plays it, our Founding Fathers would all be appalled at the madness of Obama and the great madness of the lack of opposition to this narcissitic tyrant.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#75 Nov 14, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is indeed a clown, yet despite the lies and madness the Republican Part is still fearful of going after Obama as they have gone after previous White Presidents for far less than Obama's outrageous lies.
The race card still works every time Obama plays it, our Founding Fathers would all be appalled at the madness of Obama and the great madness of the lack of opposition to this narcissitic tyrant.
I should have typed a corrupt clown. They should go after him, he is stupid as well as his administration. They are just trash, in my opinion. He wants to be the dictator. He wants all of the wealth and control. He is always for whatever is evil or wrong. I also feel that whatever he is for, is part of his life. For example, the homosexuals. Just how I feel about him. He is an embarrassment to this country!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#76 Nov 14, 2013
aborting Obama
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#79 Nov 15, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
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I should have typed a corrupt clown. They should go after him, he is stupid as well as his administration. They are just trash, in my opinion. He wants to be the dictator. He wants all of the wealth and control. He is always for whatever is evil or wrong. I also feel that whatever he is for, is part of his life. For example, the homosexuals. Just how I feel about him. He is an embarrassment to this country!
I agree. He was an embarrassment on his first day in the White House when he had the bust of the Great European Winston Churchill removed from the White House.

Absolutely no class.

He is highly educated but has no common sense or morals as well as an extreme entitlement mentality due to affirmative action.

He hasn't done a single honest days work in his life and it shows.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#80 Nov 15, 2013
Did Obama lie to the American people? Did its lips move?

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