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#122 Jun 28, 2013
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/28/mark-steyn-...

Steyn Rips Kennedy for "Immature" Opinion in DOMA Ruling

by Jeff Poor

Earlier this week, the Supreme Court rules the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional, with the historical swing vote on the panel, Anthony Kennedy, siding with the majority.

In his opinion, Kennedy was particularly harsh on DOMA proponents, suggesting they were supporting a law that was discriminatory on various levels.

That opinion drew the wrath of National Review columnist Mark Steyn. On Hugh Hewitt’s radio show on Thursday, Steyn criticized Kennedy’s opinion, calling it “pathetic” and “immature” for not acknowledging the arguments from the other side.

“To be honest, you know, the gay marriage issue, I think, is — if the people want gay marriage I think it’s for their legislators to vote for it as has been done everywhere else,” Steyn said.“It’s been done in Belgium and the Netherlands and Denmark. The House of Commons at Westminster voted for gay marriage under a Conservative government a few weeks ago. I think if the people’s representatives wish to do that, that’s one thing. When Anthony Kennedy wishes to do it, when ‘Emperor Anthony’ is the supreme arbiter of all things for 300 million people I think that’s pathetic. And I don’t think — and it’s particularly pathetic when you read his opinion in this case, which basically imputes animus to anyone who disagrees with him. It’s the most immature opinion. It doesn’t even take on arguments about DOMA. It basically says the guys who did it were motivated only by an antipathy to gay people.”

Steyn, the author of “After America: Get Ready for Armageddon,” went on to liken the Supreme Court’s role in the U.S. government to a monarchy in which the king is replaced with nine judges.

“Actually, this is a very worrying precedent, because effectively, I mean, I don’t like that the fetish-ization of judges,” he continued.“I don’t want an absolute monarchy where you replace the king with nine robed judges and you pretend somehow are any more objective than just having you know, an absolute monarch. But if you’re going to have an absolute monarchy, it’s particularly unhealthy to have an absolute monarchy that doesn’t even address arguments but simply says,‘We declare disagreement with us unacceptable and biased and bigoted’ because they can do that not just with gay marriage. They could do it with the JFK Airport parking lot expansion bill. They could do that with every single thing that comes up on their panel.”
mike

Akron, OH

#123 Jun 28, 2013
If DOMA was not presented and voted on on the basis of 'animus'- then what was the rational behind it? I think that question was asked in court and nobody defending DOMA could present an answer.
mike

Akron, OH

#124 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
Mob rule is when 2% of the population dictates to the remaining 98%.
You do not have to BE something to support it. Is that over your head?

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#125 Jun 28, 2013
mike wrote:
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You do not have to BE something to support it. Is that over your head?
Time-honored definitions and societal foundations need not be altered due to the whining of 2% of the population, the same 2% of the population who first clamored to be left alone by government, who first clamored to want government out of marriage -- and now invite government into their own bedrooms to intervene on their behalf in the alteration of the definition of marriage.

Simply amazing.

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#129 Jun 28, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What is simply amazing is how sideways your brain works.
In usual fashion, you got nothin'.
Back to your tree.
Bil Johnson

Dayton, OH

#130 Jun 28, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Unfortunately for you, those of us with whole brains will continue to extend equal rights to all citizens.
Then you are a dead person, or desire other people to be dead like you, because only dead people are truely equal.

DOMA is unconstitutional because fedgov hasn't got the delegated power to decide who gets a marriage license.

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#131 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
Mob rule is when 2% of the population dictates to the remaining 98%.
No, it's not. It's when the majority runs roughshod over the rights of the minority. The courts exist to prevent it.

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#132 Jun 28, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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No, it's not. It's when the majority runs roughshod over the rights of the minority. The courts exist to prevent it.
Arse-backwards, Tony.

No previous generation was confused about gender with respect to marriage.

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#133 Jun 28, 2013
Bil Johnson wrote:
The only people that are truly equal are dead people.
The is absolutely no authority in the US constitution to equalize people.
It doesn't have to MAKE them equal, it has to TREAT them equally for federal purposes. Just like common law marriage. They're valid in some states, not in others, but if they're valid in the state, the federal government has to treat them as valid (treating them equally means a valid marriage in one state has to be treated the same as a valid marriage in another state). It does not mean that if they're valid in one state, they have to be valid in all states (THAT would be "making equal").

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#134 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Arse-backwards, Tony.
No previous generation was confused about gender with respect to marriage.
I submit that ALL were.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#135 Jun 28, 2013
It's about liberty. The control freaks lost a little of their control, and they R mad. WAH!

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#136 Jun 28, 2013

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#137 Jun 28, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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I submit that ALL were.
Remember...you'll have to maintain that consistency thingy when any other citizen chooses to define marriage in their own particular way, whether it be polygamy, polyamory, incest, et al.

Consistency, dude.
Welcome to your creation.

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#138 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Remember...you'll have to maintain that consistency thingy when any other citizen chooses to define marriage in their own particular way, whether it be polygamy, polyamory, incest, et al.
Consistency, dude.
Welcome to your creation.
And I certainly will. Consenting adults can do as they please among themselves as long as it harms nobody else.

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#141 Jun 28, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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And I certainly will. Consenting adults can do as they please among themselves as long as it harms nobody else.
Societal foundations excluded.

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#142 Jun 28, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Got "nothin'?" I've got a very clearly stated opinion, based upon months of reading your posts, that your brain doesn't function correctly. You have a horribly defective thought process developed through years of religious indoctrination. When a person such as yourself spews opinion based upon nothing more than his own fears and prejudices and who repeatedly disregards objective fact, the only thing left is to say so.
It is an objective fact that the an#s is not a reproductive organ, and further, that two same-sex individuals cannot ever reproduce biologically, earning them the Darwinian "F."

When Mother Nature says "No!", she means it.

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#144 Jun 28, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What does any of that have to do with a marriage license?
Society has no obligation to reorder itself so as to reflect the altered, biologically-unnatural reality of homosexuals who comprise 2% of the population.

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#146 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Societal foundations excluded.
Individual liberty demands otherwise.
mike

Akron, OH

#147 Jun 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Time-honored definitions and societal foundations need not be altered due to the whining of 2% of the population, the same 2% of the population who first clamored to be left alone by government, who first clamored to want government out of marriage -- and now invite government into their own bedrooms to intervene on their behalf in the alteration of the definition of marriage.
Simply amazing.
It was once the societal foundation for the first born to be a human sacrifice. It had a logic and rational. The first child was often thought to be the offspring of a god, who had impregnated the mother in an act of droit de seigneur. In begetting the child,, the gods energy was thougth to be depleted, so to replenish this and to ensure the circulation of all the available mana - the firstborn was returned to its divine parent.

things change in society Spanky - be a man for a change and deal with it.

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#148 Jun 28, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Individual liberty demands otherwise.
unrestrained individual liberty = chaos

Laws and standards exist for a reason.

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