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Teen gets five years for attack on transgender woman at McDonald's

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McDonalds Attack

Canal Winchester, OH

#1 Sep 14, 2011
By Andrea F. Siegel, The Baltimore Sun
7:18 p.m. EDT, September 13, 2011
After a teenage girl was sentenced Tuesday to five years in prison for beating a transgender woman at a McDonald's in Rosedale, some advocates for transgender people called the sentence too lenient.
"The whole incident is unfortunate and demonstrates the lack of knowledge and understanding, and discrimination against transgender people," said Patrick Wojahn, board president of the Equality Maryland Foundation. "If anything, five years may have been too short of an amount of time for the attack and the amount of hatred that was shown in the incident."
Del. Joseline Pena-Melnyk agreed. "Five years is not enough for what she did. It was really horrible nobody should do something like that to another human being," said Pena-Melnyk, who represents parts of Anne Arundel and Prince George's counties. She proposed legislation to prevent employers, creditors and others from discriminating against transgender people, but the measure failed in the 2011 General Assembly.
Teonna Monae Brown, 19, pleaded guilty last month to first-degree assault and a hate crime in the beating of Chrissy Lee Polis, 22. The April attack drew national attention after a video went viral online, and it became a rallying point for transgender-rights advocates.
Brown, who tearfully apologized in court Tuesday, was sentenced to 10 years in prison, with five years suspended, plus three years of supervised probation, as prosecutors sought. The maximum sentence for the crimes is 35 years.
Vincent Paolo Villano, a spokesman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, said the group's focus is not Brown's sentence, but the hope that "people use this as an opportunity to educate other people." The point, he said, is that "everyone is treated fairly and equally."
Baltimore County Circuit Judge John Grason Turnbull II called Brown's attack on Polis "absolutely outrageous behavior" and said the prosecutors' sentencing recommendation was "more than reasonable."
After the sentencing, Baltimore County State's Attorney Scott Shellenberger said that "it was very important that even though this defendant has no criminal record, that she receive substantial time in jail." He said the violence of the repeated assaults warranted it.
"I don't care who the victim is. This was not a political statement," he said.
Shellenberger said surveillance video from the McDonald's in eastern Baltimore County showed that Polis was not bothering Brown and the other teen charged in the attack. Police learned that Polis went into an empty women's bathroom and was attacked as she came out, after the teens had complained to a McDonald's employee that a man went into the ladies' room, he said.
"This is the harshest penalty I have ever seen handed down to an 18-year-old first-time offender in a case of assault," Timothy Knepp, Brown's lawyer, said later. He called the case "a tragic set of circumstances that was really overblown by the state's attorney's office."
In court, Brown asked for a second chance and apologized for the attack.
"My mother didn't raise me like this," Brown said before her lawyer asked the judge for probation only. "I would really like to apologize to the victim."
Assistant State's Attorney Rachel Cogen said Polis was too upset to come to court.
In an emotional statement submitted to the court, Polis wrote that she did not forgive Brown and her 14-year-old companion for the attack. She described a demeaning attack in which Brown and the younger girl spat on her, called her names, kicked her and pulled out her hair.
"While being beaten, I felt like I was going to die that day," Polis wrote. After the beatings, her epileptic seizures, which had stopped for a year, started again and became more frequent, she added.
not a hate crime

Blacklick, OH

#2 Sep 14, 2011
A valid complaint! A man had, indeed, gone into the women's restroom.
Spooktackular

United States

#3 Sep 14, 2011
not a hate crime wrote:
A valid complaint! A man had, indeed, gone into the women's restroom.
Agreed. This was not even assualt but defense of common decency.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#4 Sep 14, 2011
<<Vincent Paolo Villano, a spokesman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, said the group's focus is not Brown's sentence, but the hope that "people use this as an opportunity to educate other people." The point, he said, is that "everyone is treated fairly and equally.">>

This is the point.

Bottom line, someone who didn't fit the expected categories had to use the rest room.

In no conceptualization of justice does this warrant beating.
not a hate crime

Blacklick, OH

#5 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
<<Vincent Paolo Villano, a spokesman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, said the group's focus is not Brown's sentence, but the hope that "people use this as an opportunity to educate other people." The point, he said, is that "everyone is treated fairly and equally.">>
This is the point.
Bottom line, someone who didn't fit the expected categories had to use the rest room.
In no conceptualization of justice does this warrant beating.
Agree about the beating but a guy in a dress is still a guy.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#9 Sep 14, 2011
not a hate crime wrote:
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Agree about the beating but a guy in a dress is still a guy.
Trust me--there are complaints no matter which rest room the person uses.
LOL

Lancaster, OH

#10 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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Trust me--there are complaints no matter which rest room the person uses.
This surprises you?
chaz

Columbus, OH

#11 Sep 14, 2011
LOL wrote:
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This surprises you?
Not a surprise. Also not a justification for a beating--as several suggested above.

Where ought people who are transgendered go to the bathroom?
not a hate crime

Blacklick, OH

#12 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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Not a surprise. Also not a justification for a beating--as several suggested above.
Where ought people who are transgendered go to the bathroom?
How about guys use the men's room and gals use the lady's? Quit trying to make this rocket science.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#13 Sep 14, 2011
not a hate crime wrote:
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How about guys use the men's room and gals use the lady's? Quit trying to make this rocket science.
Sorry, bub. So long as there are people who think that beating up others because of their sexuality, there are no good solutions.

Someone who is perceived as male in a female restroom--or vice versa--attracts attention. And when the plumbing and the rest don't align, what is perceived is really a sliding scale.

How about a little simple compassion and tolerance?
George Jefferson

Millbury, OH

#14 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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Not a surprise. Also not a justification for a beating--as several suggested above.
Where ought people who are transgendered go to the bathroom?
This whole transgendered bullshit is one big lie. These animals are freak show artists who are just looking for attention, egged on by an industry comprised of quack psychologists and leftists who will promote any whacky idea to destroy normal society.
George Jefferson

Millbury, OH

#15 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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Sorry, bub. So long as there are people who think that beating up others because of their sexuality, there are no good solutions.
Someone who is perceived as male in a female restroom--or vice versa--attracts attention. And when the plumbing and the rest don't align, what is perceived is really a sliding scale.
How about a little simple compassion and tolerance?
How about state hospitals and shock therapy?
not a hate crime

Blacklick, OH

#16 Sep 14, 2011
How about using a little common sense? Plumbing alone should be the determining factor, especially in a McDonalds. Regardless of what your psyche tells you go with the option least likely to get your ass kicked or killed.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#17 Sep 14, 2011
George Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>This whole transgendered bullshit is one big lie. These animals are freak show artists who are just looking for attention, egged on by an industry comprised of quack psychologists and leftists who will promote any whacky idea to destroy normal society.
You referring to the entire APA as "quack psychologists and leftists"?

And why would anyone want to promote whacky ideas just to "destroy normal society" That sounds pretty whacky to me.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#18 Sep 14, 2011
not a hate crime wrote:
How about using a little common sense? Plumbing alone should be the determining factor, especially in a McDonalds. Regardless of what your psyche tells you go with the option least likely to get your ass kicked or killed.
A person wearing a dress, regardless of plumbing, is likely to find trouble going into a men's bathroom.
not a hate crime

Blacklick, OH

#19 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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A person wearing a dress, regardless of plumbing, is likely to find trouble going into a men's bathroom.
Then maybe they should go before leaving home.

;^)~ offering imperfect solutions for an imperfect world.
LOL

Lancaster, OH

#20 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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A person wearing a dress, regardless of plumbing, is likely to find trouble going into a men's bathroom.
Why is a man wearing a dress?
chaz

Columbus, OH

#21 Sep 14, 2011
not a hate crime wrote:
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Then maybe they should go before leaving home.
;^)~ offering imperfect solutions for an imperfect world.
Maybe a better idea is to give up the idea of beating up on anyone who is different.

This is an example of why there are activists for equal rights for people who are LGBTQ. Going to the bathroom is not a "special" right.
chaz

Columbus, OH

#22 Sep 14, 2011
George Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>How about state hospitals and shock therapy?
Long ago proven to be ineffective.

Does this really bother you that much?
George Jefferson

Millbury, OH

#23 Sep 14, 2011
chaz wrote:
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You referring to the entire APA as "quack psychologists and leftists"?
And why would anyone want to promote whacky ideas just to "destroy normal society" That sounds pretty whacky to me.
The left has been destroying traditional values for years. Society has been seriously wounded by the "progressives." How they're working on destroying the economy, and it's working.
Read a little about Cloward and Piven.

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