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“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#81 Nov 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You're not thinking at all about the rest of the equation, are you Paco?
Let's just assume for a moment that the estimates you cite are true.
What do you think happens next?
woof
At least a third, if not more of those canceled from company policies will go uninsured. They won't be able to afford anything in the exchanges.
That's the death spiral so many experts have been predicting.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#82 Nov 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You're not thinking at all about the rest of the equation, are you Paco?
Let's just assume for a moment that the estimates you cite are true.
What do you think happens next?
woof
Very little at first... many employees won't even know it's happening... it will simply be a change of insurance similar to what's happened before, with a difference this time of changes in coverage or of cost. Some employers will eat all of the extra cost, some won't, but it WILL cost all of them more, which will leave less capital for future employment plans, and perhaps even current ones. Oh, and watch what happens in many companies with "just over" 50 employees.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#83 Nov 22, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>At least a third, if not more of those canceled from company policies will go uninsured. They won't be able to afford anything in the exchanges.
That's the death spiral so many experts have been predicting.
Don't be so sure Paco.

woof

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#84 Nov 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Don't be so sure Paco.
woof
I guarantee it, and I think my estimate is low. When you have a guy making $50k, paying $400 a month as his share of company insurance with a $2500 deductible for a family, and the wife makes $35k and then he's thrown to the exchanges at $900 or $1000 a month with a $7500 deductible, watch what happens. That's potentially an extra $10,000 per year out of pocket for a family of three or four taking home only $60,000 (if that) to begin with.
Death spiral.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#85 Nov 22, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>I guarantee it, and I think my estimate is low. When you have a guy making $50k, paying $400 a month as his share of company insurance with a $2500 deductible for a family, and the wife makes $35k and then he's thrown to the exchanges at $900 or $1000 a month with a $7500 deductible, watch what happens. That's potentially an extra $10,000 per year out of pocket for a family of three or four taking home only $60,000 (if that) to begin with.
Death spiral.
My daughter is finding out something too. They can charge as much as they want for family coverage because only the premium for "single" coverage must be below 9.5% of income... The cheapest plan she can get is over $1100 a month for family coverage, and THAT'S with a $7500 deductible and OPM... so she could end up paying over $28,000... more than half her income!
I Told You So aka WW

Dublin, OH

#86 Nov 22, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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My daughter is finding out something too. They can charge as much as they want for family coverage because only the premium for "single" coverage must be below 9.5% of income... The cheapest plan she can get is over $1100 a month for family coverage, and THAT'S with a $7500 deductible and OPM... so she could end up paying over $28,000... more than half her income!
I told you so, I told you so, I told you so....where is Reader these days, anyway?
I Told You So aka WW

Dublin, OH

#87 Nov 22, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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My daughter is finding out something too. They can charge as much as they want for family coverage because only the premium for "single" coverage must be below 9.5% of income... The cheapest plan she can get is over $1100 a month for family coverage, and THAT'S with a $7500 deductible and OPM... so she could end up paying over $28,000... more than half her income!
The ones who are in the $28K (or slightly upward) range are really screwed. Let's put a single premium @$160/month in the mix coupled with a $3000 deductible plus out of pocket expenses (and let's not forget about the things not covered or meds not covered). About 2.5 - 3 months' worth of take-home pay (without contributing to any savings whatsoever). I'm not a fan of Hannity, but he needs to hammer this one home.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#88 Nov 22, 2013
And on top of that our kids and grandkids are going to be the ones stuck with the debt we ran up! I don't know how future generations are supposed to build anything resembling a comfortable life. The word hasn't been invented yet to describe how pissed they're going to be.
IBR13a

Chino, CA

#89 Nov 23, 2013
37% approve of him? Must be those getting federal checks and free phones...

Even a impeachment would be useless and most likely wouldn't even happen until the end of his term. It's probably already too late.

When you think about it, he has fulfilled quite a few of his campaign promises.

Like redistributing the Country's wealth. Mostly the middleclass and the lower end of those considered wealthy, class.

Government transparency. Doing Nothing to stop Wikileaks or Snowden has given the world how we gather Intel, our strategies and secrets. Although he did have His past pretty well covered up.

Claiming the Constitution as a outdated rag, must be true. Seems he's trying his best to make our rights as Americans disappear. Fully supported by a first lady who thinks 'all this for a flag'.

Even him saying 'America's the best Country in the world, who's gunna help me change that'. Didn't lie about that one, it's exactly what he's doing.

Maybe that explains why he didn't place his hand over his heart and seems reluctant to do so today during the Pledge of Allegiance, then again maybe the show of respect, that IT IS, goes against the will of allah.

LOL, after all America stands for everything islam hates. Could be why he's appointed 'the brotherhood' in so many critical areas of government and supports them around the world.

Recall/impeachment?? Naa, dragged out into the street and hung for treason, maybe.
d pantz

United States

#90 Nov 23, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You're political predictions aren't very astute. You sound like a 14 year old girl who is "just like so sure that the Jonas Brothers are going to get back together like."
no , you do! You do!
d pantz

United States

#91 Nov 23, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Didn't he predict a Romney landslide?
woof
don't think he had a cbs poll to go by on that one...
d pantz

United States

#92 Nov 23, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>When elections aren't stolen, you'd be amazed at my powers.
BTW:
President Romney? Yes, if the election were held today
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...
if msnbc has one more story about "voter suppression" because states or districts only want identification, I'm gonna puke. They rant about that but you don't hear a word about how L.A. is a police state, or Houston Tx where you're not allowed to hand out flyers on a public sidewalk due to a city ordinance. They are more concerned with the rights of illegals.
d pantz

United States

#93 Nov 23, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Don't be so sure Paco.
woof
like the way the left seems so sure that they can draw a comparison between aha, which we've only had for about two months, to the old "broken" system??? Why not??
Tut

Columbus, OH

#94 Nov 23, 2013
93% think Obamacare should be scrapped.

Since: Dec 11

Middletown, OH

#95 Nov 25, 2013
Progressives take heart, encouraging words from the two buttsniffers. Yaaah, your daddy's going beat this rap......har.

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