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“Queen of my domain”

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#1 Jun 17, 2013
From today's Wall Street Journal, not accessible unless you have a subscription.

Obama isn't defending the war powers he has used so robustly.

President Obama's admirers—who include most of the press corps, the Nobel committee and President Obama—believe above all in the power of his oratory: A "major speech," in Philadelphia, Tucson or Cairo, can always calm troubled political waters. Which makes the silence of this wordiest of Presidents all the more unusual and dangerous amid the political uproar over National Security Agency antiterror surveillance.

In the 11 days since the story broke, Mr. Obama has offered only one brief and elliptical defense of the NSA programs. "I welcome this debate," he said, adding that "We'll have a chance to talk further during the course of the next couple days."

Mr. Obama went on to spend the next couple days avoiding the debate he said he welcomed. Between fund-raising appearances in Miami Beach and Santa Monica, he squeezed in an event welcoming the women's professional basketball championship team to the White House, an Ed Markey for Senate rally in Boston, and a celebration for gay pride month. The core national-security obligations of the Presidency? Nada.

With Mr. Obama's face on the surveillance milk carton, the case for data-mining and digital eavesdropping has fallen to NSA chief Keith Alexander and the bipartisan leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees. Meanwhile, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper continued his pattern of doing more harm than good with his line about answering congressional questions in "the most truthful or least most untruthful manner," which helps to explain why people are skeptical of U.S. spooks.

Even an effort by Mr. Obama to lead from behind would be better than this abdication. The President's mistake seems to be a combination of moral afflatus—how could anyone possibly imagine that he would abuse government power?—and treating the current furor as a law school seminar. The political danger is a lot greater than that. A real and growing risk is that Congress will move in a way that limits the war powers of the Commander in Chief and endangers national security.

To take one example, support seems to be growing for Senate legislation from Democrats Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley of Oregon and Republican Mike Lee of Utah that would require the declassification of certain legal opinions from the oversight court under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. This infringes on executive power because the President has traditionally defined what is secret, especially in times of war.

White House attorneys recently compounded the damage in a separate lawsuit to unseal those decisions, claiming in front of the FISA court that the FISA court itself had mandated their secrecy. The court ruled instead, and rightly so, that it is "fundamentally the Executive Branch's responsibility to safeguard sensitive national security information."

White House attorneys recently compounded the damage in a separate lawsuit to unseal those decisions, claiming in front of the FISA court that the FISA court itself had mandated their secrecy. The court ruled instead, and rightly so, that it is "fundamentally the Executive Branch's responsibility to safeguard sensitive national security information."

This rebuke harmed the Administration's credibility with the judges who approve surveillance applications, and it suggested that the Administration lacks the courage of its own security convictions. When in trouble, this crowd always blames someone else.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#2 Jun 17, 2013
cont'd.

If Mr. Obama wants to maintain public support for the U.S. antiterror architecture he inherited and has robustly used, he is going to have to publicly defend it in the context of American interests and values. Without such a defense, the political vacuum will be filled by speculation and demagoguery as it has been for nearly two weeks.

As a Senator, Mr. Obama might have joined the demagogues. Yet as President he has largely erred on the side of keeping the country safe, which confirms the truism that the world looks different from the Oval Office than from an Iowa fairground. He has bombed terrorists to death by the hundreds even as his rhetoric continues to suggest that he has saved the nation from George W. Bush's antiterror tyranny. This contradiction between his talk and action is now undermining support for Mr. Obama's powers.

All of this follows an unfortunate national-security pattern: Mr. Obama ramped up the Afghan campaign while undercutting the counter-insurgency strategy from the start, and he barely spoke of it again except to trumpet withdrawal. He threw in with the Europe-led Libya coalition at the last second, only to abdicate once Gadhafi fell and to the point that a U.S. Ambassador was murdered without consequence.

Last month he all but declared the war on terror wrapped up. And then last Thursday he left the explanation for his abrupt change of heart to (lightly) arm the Syrian rebels to his deputy national security adviser.

Mr. Obama has been lucky that his predecessors, including Lincoln, FDR, Truman, Reagan and George W. Bush, protected the wartime powers of the Presidency. This has provided him with the tools to protect Americans from the deadly combination of Islamist fanaticism and modern technology. He now has an obligation to explain and defend those tools, lest he leave America more vulnerable and the Presidency weaker than he found them.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#3 Jun 17, 2013
Yesterday, the scumbag called PRISM, "transparent."

Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/obam...

Use of the word, "Orwellian" is not hyperbole in 2013.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#4 Jun 17, 2013
What is with you morons spamming the forum with these stupid copy/paste extravaganzas without any original commentary? Do you think it makes you appear intelligent?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#5 Jun 17, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
What is with you morons spamming the forum with these stupid copy/paste extravaganzas without any original commentary? Do you think it makes you appear intelligent?
The articles are posted to provoke intelligent discussion.
Therefore, they are not applicable to you.
Move along.
Politicians Ink

Cleveland, OH

#6 Jun 17, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
What is with you morons spamming the forum with these stupid copy/paste extravaganzas without any original commentary? Do you think it makes you appear intelligent?
LOL, agree!
Like we don't read the,news....most on Topix reads daily news and come on here and the same stories on on here, posted.
Get a life guys!

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#7 Jun 17, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
What is with you morons spamming the forum with these stupid copy/paste extravaganzas without any original commentary? Do you think it makes you appear intelligent?
Go tell Loren Eberly off, wee man. These articles are posted to provoke discussion. Naturally, you trolls are angered by threads of substance.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#8 Jun 19, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
What is with you morons spamming the forum with these stupid copy/paste extravaganzas without any original commentary? Do you think it makes you appear intelligent?
What's wrong with you? I actually provided you, gratis, an article that was from a paid for subscription via the Wall Street Journal. You likely wouldn't have had instant access to it unless you asked mommy for additional milk money. And then, it was probably spent on porn.

I guess you don't give a fig where our POTUS has been or not saying. Just an observation, dipwad.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#9 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
Yesterday, the scumbag called PRISM, "transparent."
Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/obam...
Use of the word, "Orwellian" is not hyperbole in 2013.
Agreed. This guy is scaring me royally. Trampling a lot of rights, and then shooting his mouth off.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#10 Jun 19, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. This guy is scaring me royally. Trampling a lot of rights, and then shooting his mouth off.
Calling Catholic schools, "segregated" in a speech yesterday really tells you where this is heading.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#11 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Calling Catholic schools, "segregated" in a speech yesterday really tells you where this is heading.
Yep. And with the NSA, IRS scandals, this rhetoric, he's gonna go down in flames as his legacy.

Grrrr. And to think, with sequestration, the IRS is going to get bonuses? Holy moly...

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#12 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Calling Catholic schools, "segregated" in a speech yesterday really tells you where this is heading.
Which leads one to wonder what in the world is he trying to do, start a civil war? This guy is absolutely crazy, crazy! People need to say enough is enough. He needs to be impeached! He is a sick puppy!

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#13 Jun 19, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. And with the NSA, IRS scandals, this rhetoric, he's gonna go down in flames as his legacy.
Grrrr. And to think, with sequestration, the IRS is going to get bonuses? Holy moly...
That $70 million would have paid for every canceled airshow appearance of BOTH the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Calling Catholic schools, "segregated" in a speech yesterday really tells you where this is heading.
Hmmm. where was he speaking again?

woof

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#15 Jun 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm. where was he speaking again?
woof
Do you think he gives a sh!t about Northern Ireland? That venue gave him cover.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think he gives a sh!t about Northern Ireland? That venue gave him cover.
Yes, I guess you have quite a point there.

I guess he wouldn't be speaking about Northern Ireland when he's in Northern Ireland speaking to Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics.

I think he mentioned the Troubles, but rather than providing context, maybe that was just a ruse for him to deviously promote his hidden agenda to destroy Catholicism.

Yer a smart feller, there Paco.

Not much memory left, but Boy Howdy, are you a regular Inspector Gadget!

Have you called Glenn Beck yet to ask him to investigate?

woof

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#17 Jun 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I guess you have quite a point there.
I guess he wouldn't be speaking about Northern Ireland when he's in Northern Ireland speaking to Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics.
I think he mentioned the Troubles, but rather than providing context, maybe that was just a ruse for him to deviously promote his hidden agenda to destroy Catholicism.
Yer a smart feller, there Paco.
Not much memory left, but Boy Howdy, are you a regular Inspector Gadget!
Have you called Glenn Beck yet to ask him to investigate?
woof
That unique combination of naivete and rectal cranial insertion you demonstrate is a sight to see. That speech was aimed at this side of the Atlantic. You think the word "segregated" didn't have a target?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#18 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>That unique combination of naivete and rectal cranial insertion you demonstrate is a sight to see. That speech was aimed at this side of the Atlantic. You think the word "segregated" didn't have a target?
Have you listened to the entire speech or read the entire transcript?

Of course you haven't, have you?

woof

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#19 Jun 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you listened to the entire speech or read the entire transcript?
Of course you haven't, have you?
woof
As a matter of fact, I have. Now, tell me this wasn't aimed at the domestic audience here:


( CNSNews.com )- Likening religious schools to segregation--a racist system that forced blacks to attend different schools and use different facilities than whites in the American South--President Barack Obama told a town hall meeting for youth in Belfast, Northern Ireland on Monday that there should not be Catholic and Protestant schools because such schools cause division.

"Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity--symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others--these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it," said Obama. "If towns remain divided--if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs--if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation.

"Ultimately, peace is just not about politics," he said. "It’s about attitudes; about a sense of empathy; about breaking down the divisions that we create for ourselves in our own minds and our own hearts that don’t exist in any objective reality, but that we carry with us generation after generation.

"And I know, because America, we, too, have had to work hard over the decades, slowly, gradually, sometimes painfully, in fits and starts, to keep perfecting our union," said Obama. "A hundred and fifty years ago, we were torn open by a terrible conflict. Our Civil War was far shorter than The Troubles, but it killed hundreds of thousands of our people. And, of course, the legacy of slavery endured for generations.

"Even a century after we achieved our own peace, we were not fully united," he said. "When I was a boy, many cities still had separate drinking fountains and lunch counters and washrooms for blacks and whites"

Obama is now insisting on enforcing an Obamacare regulation that would force Catholic individuals, business owners and institutions to provide health care plans that cover sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs. The Catholic bishops of the United States have unanimously ddeclared this regulation an "unjust and illegal mandate" that violates the constitutionally guaranteed right to free exercise of religion.

Dozens of Catholic business owners and institutions are now suing the Obama administration over this regulation. The University of Notre Dame and Catholic University of America are among those who have filed suit. A number of Protestant business owners and institutions have also sued the administration over this regulation because it forces them to provide abortion-inducing drugs and IUDs in contradiction to their moral and religious beliefs.

The Catholic Church and Catholic religious orders run schools in the United States and elsewhere that are designed not only to teach children reading, writing, arithmetic, history and other academic subjects, but also to teach them the theology and moral views of the faith, and to train their characters in keeping with those moral views.
- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-if-cath...
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#20 Jun 19, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>That unique combination of naivete and rectal cranial insertion you demonstrate is a sight to see. That speech was aimed at this side of the Atlantic. You think the word "segregated" didn't have a target?
Take a few minutes. You might learn something, whether you admit it or not.

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/te...

woof

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