dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#21 Mar 3, 2014
You see Putin as a nationalist. That was the reason USA couldn't defeat Uncle HO. He was a nationalist pushed into the communist camp by DC, London, Paris and Berlin.
Putin is indeed a nationalist
BizzyBee you wrote supporting a KGB communist madman is beyond me, over our own country.
Two things I want to address. It's way beyond me why the American electorate would install a communist in their white house.
Two, Putin is not a madman. And doesn't make a very good communist. His governing is closer and more aligned with fascism than communism.
I'm gonna to break this up.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#22 Mar 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
So Putin goes to war, you traitors are behind him? Interesting. I doubt you wingers speak of this in normal conversation. Just a little rabble rousing from the lunatic fringe.
Onward, patriots...onward.
Didn't see any statements for support of Putin's war? Did you? Simply stating Putin is a man. Obama is a coward and a community organizer who does not have a clue what he is doing with the exception of destroying this country.

So much for your hope and change!
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#23 Mar 3, 2014
The demographics and linguistics of Ukraine is more complicated than people think. The Georgian man of steel Stalin deported a lot of Ukrainains to Siberia and replaced them with Russians. That is why the majority of Ukras in eastern and southern Ukraine speak Russian and hae close ties with the Kremlin.
The Ukrainians of northern and western Ukraine speak Ukrainian with a smattering of Polish and Lithuanian.
Going further back eastern Ukraine was under the Muscovy Tsar while western Ukraine was incorporated in the Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania.
This is some reasons i think Ukraine will divide into two countries, the eastern one allied and tied to Moscow and the western one allied with EU.
Concerning Krim which you call Crimea, it was given to UkraineSSR by the Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev and Russia wants it back. Whether it's right or wrong, happens or not, is not up to me, you, Obama, the US, or EU but it is solely a matter between Kyiv and Moscow.
I have to disagree with you in the matter of Putin being a madman. He is NOT of the same caliber as Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Beria, Andropov, Khruchchev and all the other leaders and shakers of the old USSR, ut one must admit Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton are NOT of the same calibre of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe either.

“HAPPY SPRING”

Since: Apr 10

BLOCKHEADS!

#24 Mar 3, 2014
dunadd wrote:
You see Putin as a nationalist. That was the reason USA couldn't defeat Uncle HO. He was a nationalist pushed into the communist camp by DC, London, Paris and Berlin.
Putin is indeed a nationalist
BizzyBee you wrote supporting a KGB communist madman is beyond me, over our own country.
Two things I want to address. It's way beyond me why the American electorate would install a communist in their white house.
Two, Putin is not a madman. And doesn't make a very good communist. His governing is closer and more aligned with fascism than communism.
I'm gonna to break this up.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs...

One question:
Would you live in a communistic /fascist country?
All I can see is all the bitter discord toward Obama is just a big difference in politics.
I do not agree with his policies concerning immigration,, handling hardline leaders, welfare, etc. but he isn't a monster who goes around jailing and or murdering people because they disagree. Big difference.
Just think, in about tree more years, we'll have another communist/fascist figure governing our country......they're all the same. Puppets,greed,power.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#25 Mar 3, 2014
So interesting to see Mr. Putin's bullying behaviors described as an identifying characteristic of "manhood".

woof
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#26 Mar 3, 2014
dunadd wrote:
You see Putin as a nationalist. That was the reason USA couldn't defeat Uncle HO. He was a nationalist pushed into the communist camp by DC, London, Paris and Berlin.
Putin is indeed a nationalist
BizzyBee you wrote supporting a KGB communist madman is beyond me, over our own country.
Two things I want to address. It's way beyond me why the American electorate would install a communist in their white house.
Two, Putin is not a madman. And doesn't make a very good communist. His governing is closer and more aligned with fascism than communism.
I'm gonna to break this up.
Two more issues that are not understood, the West has a long history of meddling in Slavic countries in order to keep them from forging strong alliances with Mother Russia. Think about this all countries in all language the groups tend to be close to each other. The Slavic speaking countries have a little bit more of a fractured history and a big reason for that is the West keeps sticking their nose into the business of Slavic countries where it doesn't belong. Go no further than what the United States has most recently done to Serbia, stripping it of land that is rightfully theirs. The West has hundreds of years off a track record in doing this to Slavic countries. If the Anglosphere can stick close together, why shouldn't the Slavic countries? But whitey doesn't want that.

Second, how is bathhouse Barry any better than Yanukovitch? He crams laws down the nation's throats, lies to get them passed, sics the IRS on citizens, and has racked up a whole host of abuses during his five years of office. When this idiot actually spent money to barricade open air parks and chased vacationers away from national monuments during the government shutdown that's when I had it with this buffoon. This idiot will go down as the biggest mistake in the history of this country. That's what you get when you vote for somebody just because they look good standing next to Jay Z on TV.
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#27 Mar 3, 2014
dunadd wrote:
The demographics and linguistics of Ukraine is more complicated than people think. The Georgian man of steel Stalin deported a lot of Ukrainains to Siberia and replaced them with Russians. That is why the majority of Ukras in eastern and southern Ukraine speak Russian and hae close ties with the Kremlin.
The Ukrainians of northern and western Ukraine speak Ukrainian with a smattering of Polish and Lithuanian.
Going further back eastern Ukraine was under the Muscovy Tsar while western Ukraine was incorporated in the Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania.
This is some reasons i think Ukraine will divide into two countries, the eastern one allied and tied to Moscow and the western one allied with EU.
Concerning Krim which you call Crimea, it was given to UkraineSSR by the Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev and Russia wants it back. Whether it's right or wrong, happens or not, is not up to me, you, Obama, the US, or EU but it is solely a matter between Kyiv and Moscow.
I have to disagree with you in the matter of Putin being a madman. He is NOT of the same caliber as Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Beria, Andropov, Khruchchev and all the other leaders and shakers of the old USSR, ut one must admit Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton are NOT of the same calibre of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe either.
Four points you miss.

1. Ukr and Russian still share 90% same words. They are different languages, but I don't think people realize how close they actually are. Ukrainians can travel Russia and vice versa without any problem communicating.

2. Colloquial versus formal language even closer. I was trying to translate a Russian comment on another board that was written in Cyrillic. I understand some Cyrillic but it takes me forever to read something so I ran it through Google translate. I ran it through a Serbian language just for fun and not only did 75 percent of the words turned out to be the same, it was still intelligible.

3. Ukrainians in the west part of Ukraine are traditionally Orthodox. They fell under Poland about 400 years ago and basically revolted when the poles tried to convert them into Roman Catholics. The Treaty of Brest addresses this issue allowing the church there to keep its Orthodox liturgy and traditions but became in communion with the Pope.

4. Putin is not some low-level poser like bathhouse Barry. He is a PhD and rose to lieutenant colonel in the KGB. Only the cream of the crop rise to those levels in the Russian system. I'm sure Putin is a man of the highest character and discipline. He is closer to Washington than you think.

“HAPPY SPRING”

Since: Apr 10

BLOCKHEADS!

#28 Mar 3, 2014
Who shut the government down?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sorry-wer...
Think Tank

United States

#29 Mar 3, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see Putin as a communist, but a nationalist.

The regime here is transforming us into a Third World country, it cares more about foreigners, especially Muslims, than it does us.

As far as I'm concerned, Putin has more concern for the average Western conservative, than Obama does.
Then you should migrate to your beloved Putin. Make haste, pinko.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#30 Mar 3, 2014
BizzyBee wrote:
Supporting a KGB communist,madman is beyond me, over our own country.
Just because there's a difference in political opinion, this is, and will always be the best country to live in.
My opinion....
BB
It's no different than when the GOP leadership met on Inauguration Day and declared that their primary goal was to prohibit Obama from any success. These lunatics would gladly see Russia invade us just to make Obama look bad. Tea Party Patriots.
Curious

United States

#31 Mar 3, 2014
Zoe Regen wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't see any statements for support of Putin's war? Did you? Simply stating Putin is a man. Obama is a coward and a community organizer who does not have a clue what he is doing with the exception of destroying this country.

So much for your hope and change!
The Russia and the Ukraine can blow each other off of the friggin planet for all I care. Just as long as our troops aren't involved with that euro nonsense.

“HAPPY SPRING”

Since: Apr 10

BLOCKHEADS!

#32 Mar 3, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no different than when the GOP leadership met on Inauguration Day and declared that their primary goal was to prohibit Obama from any success. These lunatics would gladly see Russia invade us just to make Obama look bad. Tea Party Patriots.
Being an Independent, for many years, I have never witnessed a more belligerent congress than what we have now. Most of the country is in agreement.
Obama needs to get a spine.....being a leader of the free world, you can't try to outsmart the enemy by being nice......
I think a lot is all talk from frustrations that are harbored because of difference in political beliefs.
Let's hope there's a reasonable solution to this Ukraine mess. So far, I think it's of no use to try to talk to Putin...his mind is made up...evidence his army is already in control there.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
Curious

United States

#33 Mar 3, 2014
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>Being an Independent, for many years, I have never witnessed a more belligerent congress than what we have now. Most of the country is in agreement.
Obama needs to get a spine.....being a leader of the free world, you can't try to outsmart the enemy by being nice......
I think a lot is all talk from frustrations that are harbored because of difference in political beliefs.
Let's hope there's a reasonable solution to this Ukraine mess. So far, I think it's of no use to try to talk to Putin...his mind is made up...evidence his army is already in control there.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
Obama is handling it correctly. Too aggressive then they call him an angry black man. It's hard to please everyone and achieve a balance. Let's be real here.
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#34 Mar 3, 2014
BizzyBee wrote:
If all your traitorous politics are in supporting Russia, then I suggest living there.
I'm an Independent and I'm calling it like I see it.
Bitch and moan about this country but supporting a communistic regime is sticking in my throat.
You're dead wrong on this.

One of the reasons Russia acts the way it does is because it's paranoid. Why is it paranoid? It's because the West is always camping out at its borders and taking things that belong to them. How did we react when Russia Parked missiles in Cuba? How do you think we would react if Russia started peeling off British Columbia from Canada? would our tanks roll into Canada? You betcha.

Putin isn't Stalin. He's not some power hungry mad man that goes around killing people who were a threat en masse. Putin is an honorable man standing up for his country, a country which has been wronged by the West quite a bit throughout history.

Who made the Anglos Lords of the Slavs? russia has done a lot more for them than the West ever has. Yes the Slavs have had some shyyty governments, but that doesn't excuse what the West has done to divide and conquer them.

Read about the Balkan Wars, Kosovo. if you read enough about how these things have gone down over the past couple of hundred years you quickly realize that its hard is it to distinguish who the good guys and who the bad guys are. the West is not Angelic with regard to what happens in Europe.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#35 Mar 3, 2014
what does the 4 points I supposedly missed by not stating them, what does those 4 points have to do with what I stated.
There isn't many words the Canadians have differently than those in New York and Michigan.
Let me go further. the people in west Ukraine want to be independent of Russia while the easterners are Russians living in Ukraine. Sure there are a lot of similarities between Ukras and Russians including language but just as New Brunswickers are same same as Mainers in most respects they are different. the people in Lviv don't want to be Russians while the majority in Donetsk are Russian living in Ukraine.
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#36 Mar 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
So Putin goes to war, you traitors are behind him? Interesting. I doubt you wingers speak of this in normal conversation. Just a little rabble rousing from the lunatic fringe.
Onward, patriots...onward.
Study history my friend. Europe has always treated slavic nations as their colonies. All the countries including Greece had stooges from the house of Saxe Gotha Coburg installed as monarchs. And when one nation fought another it was one Saxe Gotha Coburg cousin throwing his peasants to die fighting the peasants lorded over by his Saxe Gotha Coburg cousin in the country next door.

Russia is right this time.
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#37 Mar 3, 2014
Think Tank wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you should migrate to your beloved Putin. Make haste, pinko.
If only we were so lucky to have someone who stood up for America like Putin stands up for Russia. Instead we've got the black Viktor Yanukovych. Thug.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#38 Mar 3, 2014
In answer to BizzyBee, would I want to live in a communistic/fascist country THE PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN! I didn't have any choice. they voted for it!
What has kept O from the Chavez/Castro type of governing? Any idea?
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#39 Mar 3, 2014
Think Tank wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you should migrate to your beloved Putin. Make haste, pinko.
P.S. Live by the pen and phone, die by the pen and phone. If you're going to act like a dictator and disregard our laws, don't be surprised when people have about as much loyalty to you as they do in other countries with dictators.
Enzyte Bob

Detroit, MI

#40 Mar 3, 2014
dunadd wrote:
what does the 4 points I supposedly missed by not stating them, what does those 4 points have to do with what I stated.
There isn't many words the Canadians have differently than those in New York and Michigan.
Let me go further. the people in west Ukraine want to be independent of Russia while the easterners are Russians living in Ukraine. Sure there are a lot of similarities between Ukras and Russians including language but just as New Brunswickers are same same as Mainers in most respects they are different. the people in Lviv don't want to be Russians while the majority in Donetsk are Russian living in Ukraine.
They are the same people except the Catholic part goes back and forth between Poland and Russia and the Ottoman Empire throughout history. That's why they're confused. I'm with the blad on this one. The West keep stirring up sHyt wherE it doesn't belong and I'm glad Vlad is giving it right back to them.

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