Internet cafes fight to stay in Ohio ...

Internet cafes fight to stay in Ohio with referendum push

There are 27 comments on the The Columbus Dispatch story from Sep 3, 2013, titled Internet cafes fight to stay in Ohio with referendum push. In it, The Columbus Dispatch reports that:

The Buckeye Internet Cafe is an example of a Columbus sweepstakes parlor, located on E. Broad Street.

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Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#25 Sep 4, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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I am far from a leftie. I don't see why the casino and lotteries should be the only "state approved" gambling. I don't more money going to the State where it will be used to hire more vermin to wear smokey the bear hats, hire more inbreds tod rive vans with scales and bent levels and extort money from truck owners, have more shit for brains "tires are bad because they give skeeters places to lay eggs but swamps are good ( guess those skeeters use birth control or masturbate ) goons in the EPA, etc.
Government needs to shrink and to shrink it the food supply must be cut not increased. And governments food is money,
Since people want all the free stuff they can get, as far as I'm concerned it's in my best interests to get someone else pay for those free things as much as possible. Therefore, if liquor, cigarettes and gambling are subject to a "sin tax", I want to make sure that every dollar of gambling in an internet cafe is taxed accordingly. So long as they pay out to the government what the casinos have to pay out, let them stay in business. But they shouldn't get the break they are currently getting.

The lefty comment was directed at Duke.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#26 Sep 4, 2013
Buckeye-Bashing Badger wrote:
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sometimes....an empty space and the lack of a certain part of the community being drawn to said empty space is actually BETTER than an occupied space and the sub-par community it will draw to that space.
Sometimes a vacant building in lieu of immediate tax proceeds is a better long term strategy than offering a business permit to the first sleazoid business that offers to occupy said building.
Many will disagree with this, because short term gains ALWAYS are more popular in the public sphere, at least at first. Still doesn't make it the best choice for most communities.
I guarantee that if you're the owner of a strip mall and you have the opportunity to enter into a lease with a tenant who will pay you rent, and operate a perfectly legal business, you're not going to decide not to lease merely because some in the community have fundamental disagreements about the nature of the business that's setting up shop.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#27 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Since people want all the free stuff they can get, as far as I'm concerned it's in my best interests to get someone else pay for those free things as much as possible. Therefore, if liquor, cigarettes and gambling are subject to a "sin tax", I want to make sure that every dollar of gambling in an internet cafe is taxed accordingly. So long as they pay out to the government what the casinos have to pay out, let them stay in business. But they shouldn't get the break they are currently getting.
The lefty comment was directed at Duke.
What "break" are they getting?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#28 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I know you lefties hate churches and private schools, though there's not much to evidence to support that your hedonistic way of living has been good for society, but these institutions depend on charitable gaming for funding. Even if you don't like churches, there are a plethora of other non-profits from VFW Halls, Firemen and even the Kidney Foundation who conduct charitable gaming both for fundraising and as a way to get their members involved with the organization.
The internet cafes don't do anything to add to an area or a strip mall. All they are is an extra source of rent for the landlord, who usually doesn't care who they get as a tenant so long as they pay the rent.
Landlords aren't that much different than bankers, they are financiers and I would think you lefties would hate them.
The casinos will obliterate internet cafes with advertising ... but even if that were not the case, they should pay the same tax and be subject to the same regulations that casinos are subject to. A 35% tax right off the top (payable to the lottery) would go a long way toward putting them out of business.
You do realize that the Ohio AG is preparing to go after the VFW and Legion posts for their use of video gaming machines, don't you?

woof
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#29 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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What "break" are they getting?
woof
They don't pay their 30-40 percent of their net take to the government like the casinos do, for one thing. Cigarettes cost $2.50 a pack before taxes ... which doubles the price. Liquor is taxed at $9 a gallon (as of 2010). Why shouldn't for profit gambling halls be subject to the same taxes all sin businesses pay?
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#30 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You do realize that the Ohio AG is preparing to go after the VFW and Legion posts for their use of video gaming machines, don't you?
woof
Yep.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#31 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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They don't pay their 30-40 percent of their net take to the government like the casinos do, for one thing. Cigarettes cost $2.50 a pack before taxes ... which doubles the price. Liquor is taxed at $9 a gallon (as of 2010). Why shouldn't for profit gambling halls be subject to the same taxes all sin businesses pay?
There's nothing stopping the state or municipalities from imposing higher taxes and fees on internet cafes.

The AG's push to close them down is being driven by the casino operators and the state, who each have a vested interest in a continuing monopoly on legal gambling in Ohio.

And there's really no salient difference whatsoever in the clientele that attends casinos and the clientele that attends internet cafes, or in the potential for risks to the community from their existence.

Gambling is gambling is gambling. The same sort of problems that follow casinos and vlts can be found outside of countless bars and taverns statewide.

woof

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