Internet cafes fight to stay in Ohio with referendum push

Sep 3, 2013 Full story: The Columbus Dispatch 27

The Buckeye Internet Cafe is an example of a Columbus sweepstakes parlor, located on E. Broad Street.

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“Mmm OSU! It's whats for dinner”

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#1 Sep 3, 2013
These holes are nothing but computerized gambling sites hiding behind the public's complete lack of understanding of what they really are doing....

Go inside one on any given day and you will see octogenarians and the unemployed wasting away the day feeding the electronic slots etc. its complete BS.

Most of these sites are owned by middle eastern types who do NOT live in the neighborhoods they are mining for profit.
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Sep 3, 2013
Buckeye-Bashing Badger wrote:
These holes are nothing but computerized gambling sites hiding behind the public's complete lack of understanding of what they really are doing....
Go inside one on any given day and you will see octogenarians and the unemployed wasting away the day feeding the electronic slots etc. its complete BS.
Most of these sites are owned by middle eastern types who do NOT live in the neighborhoods they are mining for profit.
Why should an Iowan care?

“Mmm OSU! It's whats for dinner”

Since: Oct 10

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#3 Sep 3, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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Why should an Iowan care?
wow you dont follow sports much, do you.
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#4 Sep 3, 2013
Buckeye-Bashing Badger wrote:
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wow you dont follow sports much, do you.
Wow! You don't know shit, do you?
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#5 Sep 3, 2013
I do not care and I am not even from Iowa.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#6 Sep 3, 2013
Insert "State Lottery" in your statement and it carries just as much weight.

Which is...none.

woof
Enzyte Bob

United States

#8 Sep 4, 2013
I do care. If these places get shut down that means more money to the casinos and to the lottery. More money to the casinos and the lottery means more money to the state. More money to the states, atleast theoretically, means less taxes for me. Shut them down.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#10 Sep 4, 2013
^^^ oh I do know that ... But at least the state gets it instead of the mob in jersey. I think those machines come from jersey mostly.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#12 Sep 4, 2013
Look at it this way: At least part of the money stays in Ohio and we get rid of a lot of eyesore businesses.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#13 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Look at it this way: At least part of the money stays in Ohio and we get rid of a lot of eyesore businesses.
Those businesses aren't eyesores Bob. And they employ people and pay taxes to the state as well.

woof

“Mmm OSU! It's whats for dinner”

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#14 Sep 4, 2013
These businesses generally move into low end strip-mall retail space, depressing the local market even lower. No legitimate retail business wants to be a next door neighbor to one of these outfits, unless the prior occupant was an asian massage parlor.

They pay little local or state taxes in proportion to actual profits due to creative accounting.

Im all for free trade, but hate to see my neighborhood studded with these social and economic parasites, like some kind of retail business STD.

They belong in the same category as paycheck cash outlets. They bring nothing to a neighborhood that is a benefit.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#15 Sep 4, 2013
Buckeye-Bashing Badger wrote:
These businesses generally move into low end strip-mall retail space, depressing the local market even lower. No legitimate retail business wants to be a next door neighbor to one of these outfits, unless the prior occupant was an asian massage parlor.
They pay little local or state taxes in proportion to actual profits due to creative accounting.
Im all for free trade, but hate to see my neighborhood studded with these social and economic parasites, like some kind of retail business STD.
They belong in the same category as paycheck cash outlets. They bring nothing to a neighborhood that is a benefit.
How is the state lottery any different?

woof

“Mmm OSU! It's whats for dinner”

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#16 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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How is the state lottery any different?
woof
It isn't, much. But if you mean the lotteries, those dont have much effect on a neighborhood's appearance, as they are sold everywhere from gas stations to supermarkets.

If you mean the casinos, they at least look nice and are easier for the state to monitor. They also don't tend to be located right next to your favorite wine shop or your kid's day care.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#17 Sep 4, 2013
Ditto what Badger said ... these are seedy establishments that attract seedy people to strip malls. More to the point, they harm charitable gaming most of all. If they are allowed to stay in business they should have to pay the same fees to the state that casinos do.

The casinos are going to run ads against these places and people are more than aware that casinos aren't the gold mine they were advertised as being.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#18 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Ditto what Badger said ... these are seedy establishments that attract seedy people to strip malls. More to the point, they harm charitable gaming most of all. If they are allowed to stay in business they should have to pay the same fees to the state that casinos do.
The casinos are going to run ads against these places and people are more than aware that casinos aren't the gold mine they were advertised as being.
They do pay fees to the state. And they put otherwise vacant commercial property to use, paying real estate and other taxes as well.

"Charitable" gaming suffers???

I guess your idea of a free market isn't really a "free" market, is it?

woof

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#19 Sep 4, 2013
Buckeye-Bashing Badger wrote:
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It isn't, much. But if you mean the lotteries, those dont have much effect on a neighborhood's appearance, as they are sold everywhere from gas stations to supermarkets.
If you mean the casinos, they at least look nice and are easier for the state to monitor. They also don't tend to be located right next to your favorite wine shop or your kid's day care.
There's a daycare on Industrial Mile, right across from the casino. And a liquor store at W. Broad Plaza. If you think the casino is swanky, attracting high society, you're kidding yourself
And if you're putting your kid in a day care center that's part of a strip mall, I feel sorry for him.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#20 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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They do pay fees to the state. And they put otherwise vacant commercial property to use, paying real estate and other taxes as well.
"Charitable" gaming suffers???
I guess your idea of a free market isn't really a "free" market, is it?
woof
I know you lefties hate churches and private schools, though there's not much to evidence to support that your hedonistic way of living has been good for society, but these institutions depend on charitable gaming for funding. Even if you don't like churches, there are a plethora of other non-profits from VFW Halls, Firemen and even the Kidney Foundation who conduct charitable gaming both for fundraising and as a way to get their members involved with the organization.

The internet cafes don't do anything to add to an area or a strip mall. All they are is an extra source of rent for the landlord, who usually doesn't care who they get as a tenant so long as they pay the rent.

Landlords aren't that much different than bankers, they are financiers and I would think you lefties would hate them.

The casinos will obliterate internet cafes with advertising ... but even if that were not the case, they should pay the same tax and be subject to the same regulations that casinos are subject to. A 35% tax right off the top (payable to the lottery) would go a long way toward putting them out of business.

“Mmm OSU! It's whats for dinner”

Since: Oct 10

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#21 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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They do pay fees to the state. And they put otherwise vacant commercial property to use, paying real estate and other taxes as well.
"Charitable" gaming suffers???
I guess your idea of a free market isn't really a "free" market, is it?
woof
sometimes....an empty space and the lack of a certain part of the community being drawn to said empty space is actually BETTER than an occupied space and the sub-par community it will draw to that space.

Sometimes a vacant building in lieu of immediate tax proceeds is a better long term strategy than offering a business permit to the first sleazoid business that offers to occupy said building.

Many will disagree with this, because short term gains ALWAYS are more popular in the public sphere, at least at first. Still doesn't make it the best choice for most communities.
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#22 Sep 4, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>There's a daycare on Industrial Mile, right across from the casino. And a liquor store at W. Broad Plaza. If you think the casino is swanky, attracting high society, you're kidding yourself
And if you're putting your kid in a day care center that's part of a strip mall, I feel sorry for him.
Which came first? The daycare or the casino? The liquor store or the casino? I am glad to hear Prima Donna Daycare in Hilliard Ohio is a standalone brick and mortar building sitting in a verdant meadow but that kind of setting drives the cost of care up. Daycare in a strip mall is not a bad thing and it uses existing buildings rather than constantly building new.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#23 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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Which came first? The daycare or the casino? The liquor store or the casino? I am glad to hear Prima Donna Daycare in Hilliard Ohio is a standalone brick and mortar building sitting in a verdant meadow but that kind of setting drives the cost of care up. Daycare in a strip mall is not a bad thing and it uses existing buildings rather than constantly building new.
If having an outdoor play area with real grass and no worries about excess traffic makes a day care "prima donna," so be it.

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