If ObamaCare unconstitutional, who benefits most?

Created by Enzyte Bob on Mar 27, 2012

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Barry Soetoro (public forgets it ever happened)

Barry Soetoro (will run against the Supreme Court)

Mitt Romney (public forgets about RomneyCare)

Mitt Romney (public still angry about ObamaCare)

None of the Above.

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“Don't trust the internet!”

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#63 Mar 4, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Not quite. A very superior surgeon friend of mine has not accepted medicare or medicaid for almost a decade. The goverment is painfully slow and low pay.
Now, Peter will do surgeries 'pro bono' when he chooses. A true gentleman.
And I already know other docs that are going to opt out, if not entire hospitals. Beyond the slow and low pay, they look upon it as unconstitutional in three different areas.
Ummmm, the hospitals are opting out of what, exactly?

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#64 Mar 4, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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many feel it trambles on thier freedom of religion, taxation without representation and free speech. Also as an infridgement on the commerce laws.
I'm not arguing this with you, Twister, this is what the medical professionals tell me about Obamacare. So no challenges to me.
What better challenge than to simply let your words stand?
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Dublin, OH

#65 Mar 4, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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An arthritis doc refusing to accept Medicare?
Interesting marketing strategy.
Arthritis in its various forms is affecting a lot of younger folks these days who are covered by better insurance than the health exchanges or Medicare. They are also more likely to buy into the wellness care packages offered by certain physician groups as a way to manage their chronic illnesses (and at a profit to the doc).
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Dublin, OH

#66 Mar 4, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Read what I wrote. I said that she had defined a very small niche demographic--those under 65 with both arthritis and private insurance. And I suppose you could also throw in those without insurance willing and able to pay cash.
The biggest users of rheumatologists is the 40-59 age range group, who do not qualify for Medicare and most likely have private insurance.

I am so tired of your smug non-knowledge.
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Dublin, OH

#67 Mar 4, 2013
And that's a 2012 statistic. Might want to see what health trends are before you talk about how wonderful the exchanges are - which won't adequately cover above groups without forcing them to pay the highest premium possible with no subsidies.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#68 Mar 5, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Medicare coverage is pretty much universal in the over 65 age group.
This demographic overlaps pretty handily with the population most likely to seek care for arthritis.
So--if what you believe is the truth, she is serving a pretty narrow niche market of folks younger than 65 who have both arthritis severe enough to need treatment and private insurance.
Besides which, docs who make those kinds of decisions individually are the dinosaurs of the medical field these days. Most are employed by larger groups who look very carefully at eliminating any significant pay sources. Their tendancy is to look for ways to make up revenue through volume.
you are stupider than dog chit.

There is a banner, yes banner in reception room declining medicare and medicaid.

she is such a dinosaur, that she is recognized as a specialist and ranked highest in central Ohio. a waiting list of 6 months for 1st visit.

she made sure she did not cut her pay in half by accepting government payments.

what you call stupid, others call brilliant.

My Doctor is so stupid, she earns 25 times what the Great Reader does. accepting government payment is same as accepting a coupon for 1/2 off.

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#69 Mar 5, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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you are stupider than dog chit.
There is a banner, yes banner in reception room declining medicare and medicaid.
she is such a dinosaur, that she is recognized as a specialist and ranked highest in central Ohio. a waiting list of 6 months for 1st visit.
she made sure she did not cut her pay in half by accepting government payments.
what you call stupid, others call brilliant.
My Doctor is so stupid, she earns 25 times what the Great Reader does. accepting government payment is same as accepting a coupon for 1/2 off.
Dinosaur is no reflection on medical knowledge.

Single doc practices however are rapidly disappearing for a good many reasons.

Glad to know that your doc shares her income with you. But, since you really don't know mine, it's pretty hard to accept your statement that she earns 25 times what I do.

“Queen of my domain”

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#70 Mar 5, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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All three of my cousins had early onset of arthritis, I believe because their father had them playing tackle football at very young ages and through college. And getting knocked around by race horses.
Very traumatic, painful, debilitating. Are there any supplements your daughter could be taking now to slow it down?
I usually pay my co-pay at the time of the visit and hear nothing more from the doctor's office. Doctor's and dentists I know well, I also ask what discount I get for 'cash.'
Constitutionally, in serious discussions, many feel it trambles on thier freedom of religion, taxation without representation and free speech. Also as an infridgement on the commerce laws.
I'm not arguing this with you, Twister, this is what the medical professionals tell me about Obamacare. So no challenges to me.
I really don't know what she can take or do any longer--she's long been off my health care, she's now in her early 30s. I know just what she tells me. It's been rounds of rehab/PT for years--since she's been 15 or 16.

I agree that the new health care laws trample a lot of things, not about to get into it here. Tired and don't feel like playing Twister tonight.
d-pants

United States

#71 Mar 6, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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another insane clueless comment.
go take your meds.
too bad you can't dispute any of it. But I'm not on this thread it argue iso and pattent laws with somebody who is already clueless. This thread is about obamacare. Has anybodies insurance premiums gotten cheaper out there?No? Did you get better coverage? No?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archive...
d-pants

United States

#72 Mar 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Ummmm, the hospitals are opting out of what, exactly?
not our money, that's 4 sure

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