Gun Control Under Obama
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1188 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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I've read every line of the 10 or so gun ban bills introduced by the Congressional Ds so far. I've also read three proposed bans in Illinois and one in New York.
Good. So you should be able to point to the language in those bills that ban all guns and allow Diane Feinstein to keep hers. Remember, that was the original claim that started this bizarre exchange.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1189 Jan 6, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Not an unfettered right.
Are you dense?
Why yes, you are.
woof
Who said it was an unfettered right?
You're using your proteges juvenile tactics, Duke. Don't let him make you look more foolish than you naturally are.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1190 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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If the Russians got lucky with an EMP strike, they could credibly invade, though they would still lose as long as the population was armed.
An invasion of the US is probable in the 2020s by an EU-China-Islamist "peacekeeping" force sent in to suppress the rebellions in the red states.
Please tell me you were trying to make a joke.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1192 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly the sort of desperate flailing you engage in when you know you've lost the argument, Che.
What argument? You have yet to provide any support, other than a TV miniseries, that there was a credible threat of a Soviet invasion of the United States as recently as 1991. Do you really think you have done so?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#1193 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I touted my degree in reference to Che's idiocy regarding the Cold War.
Try and keep up.
I was keeping up. The discussion turned towards the possibility of an invasion as one justification for an armed populace.

Did they teach you how bills become laws at Colby?

woof

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1194 Jan 6, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Looks like thirty years.
woof
I see you're as ignorant of Cold War history as your sidekick. Figures.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1195 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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Russia and China actually have a fair amount of illegal firearms, and many more protected by bribes. They are police states, but you can bribe the police.
That is True
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#1196 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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Doubtful, "inherit" would carry a substantial taxation penalty if the courts demanded it to remain the illusion of constitutionality.
You can still own "prohibited" weapons in Canada, but when you die, they are confiscated. If not for Bush I's 1989 import ban, most of them would end up here.
You better go read the Canadian law again. There are exceptions to provide for inheritance.

I know you boys always love it when I'm right.

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1197 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>No Che, I was stating fact: You had your ass handed to you and yet you still double down for more. Nobody but you redirected the discussion.
Really? I responded to this,
Karl Monday wrote:
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Not to mention that a credible threat of USSR invasion did exist up until 1991.
Is that what you are defending?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#1199 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Who said it was an unfettered right?
You're using your proteges juvenile tactics, Duke. Don't let him make you look more foolish than you naturally are.
You have implied it on these threads, numerous times. You've done it in this one.

woof

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1200 Jan 6, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Keep patting yourself on the back. It's your M.O. You get caught in the illogic of what you are saying, you add variables or try to redirect the conversation, and then claim victory. You are as bad an advertisement for Colby College as you are the Catholic Church.
The worst face of Colby is the embarrassingly fawning and vapid leftist, Doris Kearns Goodwin.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1202 Jan 6, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Really? I responded to this,
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Is that what you are defending?
You denied that it was a credible threat. That exposed your ignorance on the subject.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#1203 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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You are confusing the US RKBA with the Mexican RKBA.
The US v Miller (1939) decision makes it clear that arms of military use are what the constitution protects.
Karl, in light of the fact that numerous US Courts of Appeals have addressed gun regulations since Miller, and the SC has issued two hallmark opinions in the past few years involving gun regulations, both of which discussed Miller and its modern application ... politely, you are sadly mistaken.

I say this not to be mean, but to enlighten...discerning what an Article III court holding actually means to the general public in terms of what effect if any it may have upon their daily lives is a bit more difficult than most people realize, because often, the holdings only apply to the specific facts that were before the court for consideration. But one can look to the dicta in an opinion to get an idea of how the court might decide future cases, with different facts, were it to find those facts before it.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#1204 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>The worst face of Colby is the embarrassingly fawning and vapid leftist, Doris Kearns Goodwin.
She embarrasses you because she's smarter, and richer than you.

Its Ok George. While she's engaged in interviews with some of the most influential people on the planet, we have you here, with us.

woof

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1205 Jan 6, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What argument? You have yet to provide any support, other than a TV miniseries, that there was a credible threat of a Soviet invasion of the United States as recently as 1991. Do you really think you have done so?
My God, man...are you so intellectually shallow? As Karl noted, the Japanese accomplished it in 1942 and stayed for over a year.
Read the testimony of Stanislav Lunev.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#1208 Jan 6, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What argument? You have yet to provide any support, other than a TV miniseries, that there was a credible threat of a Soviet invasion of the United States as recently as 1991. Do you really think you have done so?
Now, admit you are ignorant and dead flat wrong:

Stalin's secret plans to invade Alaska among topics
discussed at international conference on Cold War
http://www.yale.edu/opa/arc-ybc/v28.n7/story1...
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1209 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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Alaska is part of the United States, Right across the Bering Strait, prior to 1991, the USSR existed. Russian bombers TO THIS DAY regularly try to overfly Alaska for recon missions and to piss off the F-22s and F-15s stationed there. A Soviet invasion of Alaska would not be difficult to pull off.
Please explain why it was not credible that the USSR could invade Alaska prior to 1991?
It is as credible as Mexico or Canada invading the US. Anything is possible. Credible is a different matter.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1210 Jan 6, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
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No, I was recalling the plot of "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2"
That at least makes sense. It seems that's where you guys get all of your information. TV and video games.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1211 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Now, admit you are ignorant and dead flat wrong:
Stalin's secret plans to invade Alaska among topics
discussed at international conference on Cold War
http://www.yale.edu/opa/arc-ybc/v28.n7/story1...
Geez. I forgot that Stalin was ruling the USSR in 1990.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#1214 Jan 6, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Now, admit you are ignorant and dead flat wrong:
Stalin's secret plans to invade Alaska among topics
discussed at international conference on Cold War
http://www.yale.edu/opa/arc-ybc/v28.n7/story1...
Here is my favorite quote from your article that you cite to establish the credibility of the threat of Soviet invasion,

"There are several different interpretations. If he really thought he could pull it off, one has to consider his mental stability.... He thought the West Germans would welcome Soviet expansion" if it were not for the influence of the United States, says Gaddis. "That relates to Stalin's ability to detect reality."

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