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#5692
Mar 28, 2013
 
Pale Rider wrote:
Scary! This was in 2007 too. Bush was president.
In 2007, there were 613 fatal firearm accidents in the United States, constituting 0.5% of 123,706 fatal accidents that year.
In 2007, there were roughly 15,698 emergency room visits for non-fatal firearm accidents,[123] constituting 0.05% of 27.7 million emergency room visits for non-fatal accidents that year.
These emergency room visits for non-fatal firearm accidents resulted in 5,045 hospitalizations, constituting 0.4% of 1.4 million non-fatal accident hospitalizations that year.
Not our fault gangbangers are such poor shots. The majority of those are problem criminals using guns. As we've told you before genius criminals will always get guns no matter what and no matter how strict the laws are they will use them to get what they want.

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#5693
Mar 28, 2013
 
VADoc wrote:
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Not our fault gangbangers are such poor shots. The majority of those are problem criminals using guns. As we've told you before genius criminals will always get guns no matter what and no matter how strict the laws are they will use them to get what they want.
If gangbangers were such bad shots, how do you explain so many funeral parlors staying full every week in urban areas nationwide?

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#5694
Mar 28, 2013
 
Pale Rider wrote:
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Did you miss this Tony?
Maybe a few cans to the homeless?
Are you another GREEDY Republican Tony?
Hardly. I give what I can (I gross just a little over $35k a year) to the church and they help take care of several people who have fallen through the cracks. I also give to the Red Cross regularly.

Oh, and I'm not strictly a Republican... about 60/40.

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#5695
Mar 28, 2013
 
VADoc wrote:
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Not our fault gangbangers are such poor shots. The majority of those are problem criminals using guns. As we've told you before genius criminals will always get guns no matter what and no matter how strict the laws are they will use them to get what they want.
And those areas were gangbangers hang out have the fewest federal prosecutions...

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...

They don't prosecute the laws we have, what makes them think more laws are going to do anything?

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And those areas were gangbangers hang out have the fewest federal prosecutions...
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
They don't prosecute the laws we have, what makes them think more laws are going to do anything?
They don't care about dead kids, they want more control over all of our lives...every aspect of them.

"There's no way to rule innocent men.
The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime
that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
---Ayn Rand

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#5698
Mar 28, 2013
 
TonyD2 wrote:
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And those areas were gangbangers hang out have the fewest federal prosecutions...
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
They don't prosecute the laws we have, what makes them think more laws are going to do anything?
your right and Chicago is proof.
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#5699
Mar 28, 2013
 
I believe the great Obama is planning to get those background checks underway.

But hold on!

There is a twist, also background checks on people that own guns. That is correct, if you own a gun, Obama may require for you to undergo some tests, to prove you are fit to own a weapon.

Tony D2, you may be required to go before a psychiatrist to prove you are fit to own a gun. Not just any psychiatrists Tony D2 but one selected by the Government for you. Your chances of failure will ensure the public, you are no longer a threat.

A pink slip by the psychiatrists will be issued, then you will personally tote each gun you own into town to the sheriff. Won't that be neat, America is safer from threats. Plus all of those that have been lying about Obama, will see their Government in action! I was breathing better already.

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#5700
Mar 28, 2013
 
Pale Rider wrote:
I believe the great Obama is planning to get those background checks underway.
But hold on!
There is a twist, also background checks on people that own guns. That is correct, if you own a gun, Obama may require for you to undergo some tests, to prove you are fit to own a weapon.
Tony D2, you may be required to go before a psychiatrist to prove you are fit to own a gun. Not just any psychiatrists Tony D2 but one selected by the Government for you. Your chances of failure will ensure the public, you are no longer a threat.
A pink slip by the psychiatrists will be issued, then you will personally tote each gun you own into town to the sheriff. Won't that be neat, America is safer from threats. Plus all of those that have been lying about Obama, will see their Government in action! I was breathing better already.
Prepare for CWII should your fantasy emerge in reality/
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#5701
Mar 28, 2013
 
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Prepare for CWII should your fantasy emerge in reality/
CWII might happen. But remember, the people want something done. Murders are out of hand. Maybe the thugs will be disarmed by those few with high powered weapons. It isn't the good people that are doing the killing.

Maybe it is time to declare war on the thugs, and wanna be bad guys!

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Pale Rider wrote:
I believe the great Obama is planning to get those background checks underway.
But hold on!
There is a twist, also background checks on people that own guns. That is correct, if you own a gun, Obama may require for you to undergo some tests, to prove you are fit to own a weapon.
Tony D2, you may be required to go before a psychiatrist to prove you are fit to own a gun. Not just any psychiatrists Tony D2 but one selected by the Government for you. Your chances of failure will ensure the public, you are no longer a threat.
You're the one who has admitted to committing violence against others. You are the real threat. You shouldn't wait until you are forced to see a psychiatrist.

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CWII might happen. But remember, the people want something done. Murders are out of hand. Maybe the thugs will be disarmed by those few with high powered weapons. It isn't the good people that are doing the killing.
Yet good people are the only ones who would be penalized by more laws.

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#5704
Mar 28, 2013
 
Pale Rider wrote:
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CWII might happen. But remember, the people want something done. Murders are out of hand. Maybe the thugs will be disarmed by those few with high powered weapons. It isn't the good people that are doing the killing.
Maybe it is time to declare war on the thugs, and wanna be bad guys!
All the killings were done by leftists since 1963, with the exception of Lanza, who was a pharma failure nutbag.
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#5705
Mar 28, 2013
 
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Yet good people are the only ones who would be penalized by more laws.
A law that brings all people before a Government psychiatrist to prove you are fit to own a gun. You might be proven as not fit to own a gun TonyD2. That is exactly why the law would be designed to eradicate the undesirable. Old Hugh might be caught up, he says some things. I should say lots of things that fall to the FAR RIGHT. Like placing a heart on my chest for people to shoot at.

That old no good Reality Speaks, shooting off his mouth would surely lose his rights to own a weapon.

TonyD2 you say some of the damndest things too. I have said you need help, probably your entire family needs help. You aren't exactly all there TonyD2. I hated to say that, but someone had too. The law would help people like you. I am surprised you haven't already shot the Hell out of some innocent human. Be careful TonyD2 until the law can be passed, that will get you the help you need. Remember you may think you are good, but a qualified psychiatrist might think differently. When you are insane, you don't know you are insane TonyD2. We see a lot of that on here.

Poor SL doesn't know people think she is the CTW, but it is what she says, that leads a person to believe that. Hold it down a tad SL, if you can.

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#5706
Mar 28, 2013
 
It’s a new position for liberals to oppose the rights of the accused. Usually the Times is demanding that even convicted criminals be given voting rights, light sentences, sex-change operations and vegan meals in prison.

Another recent Times article about communities trying to keep sex offenders out of their neighborhoods quoted a liberal saying:“It’s counterproductive to public safety, because when you have nothing to lose, you are much more likely to commit a crime than when you are rebuilding your life.”But that was about convicted child molesters. This is about guns, so all new rules apply.

As is usually the case when liberals start proposing gun restrictions, they assume only men will be disarmed by laws taking guns from those subjected to temporary restraining orders. But such orders aren’t particularly difficult to get. It doesn’t occur to liberals that an abusive man could also get one against his wife, whether or not his accusations are true.

Rather than helping victims of domestic abuse, this — and other Times’ proposals on guns — only ensures that more women will get killed. A gun in the hand of an abused woman changes the power dynamic far more than keeping a gun out of the hands of her abuser, who generally can murder his wife in any number of ways.

The vast majority of rapists, for example, don’t even bother using a gun because — as renowned criminologist Gary Kleck notes — they typically have a “substantial power advantage over the victim,” making the use of a weapon redundant.

As the Times eventually admits:“In fairness, it was not always clear that such an order (taking guns from the accused wife abuser) would have prevented the deaths.”No kidding. In one case the Times cites, Robert Wigg ripped a door off its hinges and heaved it at his wife, Deborah, after having thrown her to the floor by her hair.

Deborah Wigg moved out, got a protective order and filed for divorce. But doors were not an impediment to Robert Wigg. He showed up at her new house and, in short order, broke down the door and murdered her.

He happened to have used a gun, but he might as well have used his fists. Or an illegal gun, had the court taken away his legal guns. Or another door.As her husband was breaking in, Deborah called her parents and 911. Her neighbors called 911, too. But the police didn’t arrive in time. Even her parents got to the house before the cops did, only to find their daughter murdered.The protective order didn’t help Deborah Wigg; the police couldn’t help; her neighbors and parents couldn’t help. Only if she’d had a gun and knew how to use it — after carefully disregarding everything Joe Biden has said on the subject — might she have been able to save her own life.Numerous studies, including one by the National Institute of Justice, show that crime victims who resist a criminal with a gun are less likely to be injured than those who do not resist at all or who resist without a gun. That’s true even when the assailant is armed.Liberals’ advice to rape and domestic abuse victims is: Lie back and enjoy it. The Times’ advice is: Get a protective order. The NRA’s advice is: Blow the dirtbag’s head off. Or, for the delicate: Resist with a gun, the only effective means to stop an attack.Apparently a lot of abused women prefer not to lie back and take it. Looking at data from Detroit, Houston and Miami, Margo Wilson and Martin Daly found that the vast majority of wives who killed their husbands were not even indicted, much less convicted, because it was found they were acting in self-defense.

But the Times doesn’t want abused women to have a fighting chance. Instead, it keeps pushing gun control policies that not only won’t stop violent men from murdering their wives, but will disarm their intended victims.

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Pale Rider wrote:
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A law that brings all people before a Government psychiatrist to prove you are fit to own a gun. You might be proven as not fit to own a gun TonyD2.
Problem is the fourth amendment prohibits such "searches" without probable cause that a crime has, or is imminently about to be committed by the person being so searched.
That is exactly why the law would be designed to eradicate the undesirable.
Look in the mirror if you want to see undesirable. You who cannot tolerate anyone with opinions you don't like.
Old Hugh might be caught up, he says some things. I should say lots of things that fall to the FAR RIGHT. Like placing a heart on my chest for people to shoot at.
That old no good Reality Speaks, shooting off his mouth would surely lose his rights to own a weapon.
TonyD2 you say some of the damndest things too. I have said you need help, probably your entire family needs help. You aren't exactly all there TonyD2. I hated to say that, but someone had too. The law would help people like you. I am surprised you haven't already shot the Hell out of some innocent human.
Must be projection. You should talk to your psychiatrist about it.
Be careful TonyD2 until the law can be passed, that will get you the help you need. Remember you may think you are good, but a qualified psychiatrist might think differently. When you are insane, you don't know you are insane TonyD2. We see a lot of that on here.
Especially from people who claim they bust other people in the mouth for merely saying something they didn't like (that's how they say murderers start out... by assaulting people). You have already admitted your instability. You're hardly in a position to determine others'. You bear watching... probably should also be put on the no-fly list.
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Mar 29, 2013
 
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text>If gangbangers were such bad shots, how do you explain so many funeral parlors staying full every week in urban areas nationwide?
just think what result would be if the actually hit what aiming at?
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#5709
Mar 29, 2013
 
Pale rider is just a troll of epic proportions.

I have the tools and intelligence if I wanted a gun even if they were illegal I could easily build one or find all the parts needed to assemble one.

I've built 2 of my AR 15's from the ground up ordering various parts. It's not hard. If you can read a schematic you can build a gun. If you can use a lathe you can build a gun. If the Israelis can build Uzis in laundry rooms in apartment buildings then anyone can do it.

Pale rider thinks America is full of idiots who are ready to take it up the rear by anyone with a D behind their name and the poor little fella is dead wrong.
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#5710
Mar 29, 2013
 
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nothing is free but time.
that is the problem with you liberals.
you believe in money trees.
you have any seeds for those trees?
The problem with you conservatives is you think you are the only people that pay taxes and work for a living.

The other problem with you conservatives, you think that greed is OK, anyway to get ahead, by hook or crook.

Another problem, you never know when to shut up.
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#5711
Mar 29, 2013
 
Pale Rider wrote:
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The problem with you conservatives is you think you are the only people that pay taxes and work for a living.
The other problem with you conservatives, you think that greed is OK, anyway to get ahead, by hook or crook.
Another problem, you never know when to shut up.
I will never shut up, and a puss like you can't make me.

I will shout from the rooftops what a plague you are, and call for extermination immediately.
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Mar 29, 2013
 
Reality Speaks wrote:
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I will never shut up, and a puss like you can't make me.
I will shout from the rooftops what a plague you are, and call for extermination immediately.
What does that mean?

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