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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I've actually been making ice coffee lately. I make 8 cups using 5 scoops, and then I throw it in a pitcher with a bunch of ice.
Maybe I won't be so cheap next time and just grab the bag of Starbucks Coffee.
Ha! You splurging..thanks for my insomniac laugh, cheapskate.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

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Feb 7, 2013
 
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Glitter being a dietician is a better person to opine, but the Learn system works better long term. If one of the hospitals in your area offers it, it is worth the $200 because you re-learn how to eat properly. I took it twice, actually ... All I do is make sure I stay under 2,000 calories a day (that means very limited restaurant food) and some moderate exercise (30 minutes of walking will do, but 60 is really ideal).
Wendy's is fine in a hurry, but just the sandwich only. No fries and Coke. Once you get used to it, it's great. This is not a diet. You are not hungry. You eat properly and you make sure you don't gorge yourself on calories.
After she loses her tonnage on NutriSystem, she should take Learn so she can eat properly and not balloon all over again. I lost 30 pounds. I could probably stand to lose 30 more. But the important thing is that I've kept the 30 off except for a little winter weight.
Thanks for the shout out Bobby. I have to say you all have amused me at this early hour. Eat less, exercise more. If you need a structured program, so be it, not for me to judge. That being said, you can do it on your own for much less money.
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#108
Feb 7, 2013
 
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I think there are a lot of righties who go around claiming that lefties are all atheists.
Frankly, I have always found at least as many liberals in churches as anywhere else--maybe more.
But when I point stuff like this out, then the arguments start about how all the churches aren't really all equally Christian. Or some throw the term "Bible-believing" around--as if there are churches who believe in something else instead.
As if?

By the person who insists the Bible shouldn't be taken literally?
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Are you kidding?
Wait What is going to start following me around to tattle on me again, but here's a bad joke.
How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a light bulb?
Never mind, it's all right. I can just sit here in the dark.
It's not tattling - it's calling you out on your hypocrisy.

It is difficult to respect anything you write, say, on the Martin case when you think that it's OK to slam other people - just not your own. I really don't care if you want to make a "bad joke" - just don't slam others for doing so.
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#110
Feb 7, 2013
 
Hmmm...should I post the latest Michelle Obama joke I read or not? No, Reader will say I'm a racist.

Carry on.
Enzyte Bob

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Feb 7, 2013
 
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the shout out Bobby. I have to say you all have amused me at this early hour. Eat less, exercise more. If you need a structured program, so be it, not for me to judge. That being said, you can do it on your own for much less money.
If people could do it on their own, everybody would be thin. The thing that worked about the Learn program for me was that it was a 13 week class and you had interaction. You gave your food charts to the dietitian and she gave you feedback every week. I took it a second time to reinforce things, but I've been sticking to it pretty much. The hard thing to do is to break your bad habits and 13 or 26 weeks of someone holding your hand (if you're serious about it) can do that for you. Just by going through the process, it keeps you focused and accountable. I think that's part of the idea behind AA too.

It was worth it for me if for no other reason than I don't eat as much fast food anymore. The program has more than paid for itself from all the money I've saved by not going to restaurants anymore.

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Feb 7, 2013
 
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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If people could do it on their own, everybody would be thin. The thing that worked about the Learn program for me was that it was a 13 week class and you had interaction. You gave your food charts to the dietitian and she gave you feedback every week. I took it a second time to reinforce things, but I've been sticking to it pretty much. The hard thing to do is to break your bad habits and 13 or 26 weeks of someone holding your hand (if you're serious about it) can do that for you. Just by going through the process, it keeps you focused and accountable. I think that's part of the idea behind AA too.
It was worth it for me if for no other reason than I don't eat as much fast food anymore. The program has more than paid for itself from all the money I've saved by not going to restaurants anymore.
I agree with your post. Someone tsking you to keep you on track I'm not discounting. I'm just saying with some self discipline, you can do it with label reading, portion control, and not parking your car in the closest spot. If it works for you cheering you on. Follow what they say and I'm here if you need me.

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#113
Feb 7, 2013
 
Catman....what are you doing and has Socks II let you touch her yet?
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GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with your post. Someone tsking you to keep you on track I'm not discounting. I'm just saying with some self discipline, you can do it with label reading, portion control, and not parking your car in the closest spot. If it works for you cheering you on. Follow what they say and I'm here if you need me.
I used to go to Wendy's or some other fast food place about 3x a week, that's about $15 a week I'd spend. Now I might go once a week and I usually only get a burger.$12 a week savings over 78 weeks (18 months)? Almost a grand ... and that's just what I don't spend at Wendy's anymore.

My only issue is that my diet is pretty boring (eggs, fruit, salad, sandwiches). I probably should work on adding some healthy variety to it but it works and I'm never hungry. It is not a diet and I really don't want any of the crap I used to eat anyway.

Again, this is not a diet - I AM NOT HUNGRY.

Anyway, that's what I think they're getting at with Dave with the Sinclair Method. Just like bad carbs and liquor make me hungry and make me want to eat more, I slowly weaned myself off of them and I don't have any problem with my diet anymore. Take out what's causing the problem and the rest takes care of itself.

I think what that Sinclair Method does sounds like a similar concept. Wean him off of drinking with the pills deadening the sensation where he doesn't really want to have a drink anymore. It sounds like it makes sense.

Again, I don't know squat about alcoholism. Just what I've observed over the years in myself and other people.

I might be skeptical if he was dry, but since he's drinking right now, he has nothing to lose by trying this method.

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I like coffee anytime of day. I don't use sugar though, but it slows down the guzzling urge most beer drinkers are use to. That's why i mentioned Dave working on his off season. When i quit, and substituted Pepsi for the beer i drank, i was so full of zip that i had to stay busy till I about fell over. Even when i was watching T.V. I worked on jig-saw puzzles to keep my mind on something, not to forget all the computer skills i researched and practiced. Music and Art became more interesting to work on, rather than just listen and look at.
Bottom line: I am focused on what i need to do...and enjoy most of what i do.*SOBER*
Cigarettes are my next challenge.
When I quit smoking, I crocheted a sweater. Kept my hands busy at night between dinner and bed time--my heavy smoking time. Also helped that I had a small kid. So long as I didn't bring any cigarettes into the house, I was safe until the next morning, cuz I wasn't going to go out at night.

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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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If people could do it on their own, everybody would be thin. The thing that worked about the Learn program for me was that it was a 13 week class and you had interaction. You gave your food charts to the dietitian and she gave you feedback every week. I took it a second time to reinforce things, but I've been sticking to it pretty much. The hard thing to do is to break your bad habits and 13 or 26 weeks of someone holding your hand (if you're serious about it) can do that for you. Just by going through the process, it keeps you focused and accountable. I think that's part of the idea behind AA too.
It was worth it for me if for no other reason than I don't eat as much fast food anymore. The program has more than paid for itself from all the money I've saved by not going to restaurants anymore.
I think that the real deal is that so much of diet ia actually behavioral. Learning to recognize and respond to hunger--as opposed to stress, pattern, availability of food, boredom, whatever--is fairly important, and probably takes some ongoing support of some kind. Unlike an alcohol addiction where you have to avoid the substance altogether, everybody needs to eat something, so there is some retraining that has to go along with the education about how many calories and where they ought to come from.

While I like the science behind Adkins (first looked into it after the NYTimes did a piece tracing the epidemiology of obesity in the US following questionable recommendations about lowering fat in diet in order to combat heart disease), it was also pretty clear that it provided a certain amount of behavioral guidance. Essentially it begins with the very low carb level (that everyone always freaks out about), however, it moves gradually upward until a balance point is reached. In other words, it is not something that one goes off of once arriving at a goal weight. It also deals with the issue of hunger. If one actually feels hungry, there is always something available that one is permitted to eat. However, when faced with the question of whether one is actually hungry enough to eat a hot dog or a cube of cheese, it tends to get down to a recognition that hunger and boredom (or habit) are different things.
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You know a hard habit to break? Chronic masturbation.

Anyway I assume it is. I haven't tried to break it yet.

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#118
Feb 7, 2013
 
A few years ago, Berger hospital came into our workplace with a program called "The Balancing Act". All we did was count fat grams, 30 or less per day for males, 25 or less for females. The weight actually fell off with us hardly knowing it until we looked into the mirror one day and said WOW! I loaned the book to someone and never got it back. I did great until I broke my foot a couple of years ago and fell off the program. I seriously wish I could find that program again.

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Big Johnson wrote:
You know a hard habit to break? Chronic masturbation.
Anyway I assume it is. I haven't tried to break it yet.
You're cheating the hookers over on Sullivant Avenue out of money. Get into counseling ASAP.

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Feb 7, 2013
 
Seriouslady wrote:
Catman....what are you doing and has Socks II let you touch her yet?
No,not yet.But I did just get back from the hospital where they tried to do a brain scan and were shocked when they couldn't find one.That explaines everything!!!!!!
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Feb 7, 2013
 
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When I quit smoking, I crocheted a sweater. Kept my hands busy at night between dinner and bed time--my heavy smoking time. Also helped that I had a small kid. So long as I didn't bring any cigarettes into the house, I was safe until the next morning, cuz I wasn't going to go out at night.
That's good, Reader. I've heard that occupying the hands into different activities help. A doctor told me that's the myth behind people gaining weight after quitting. It's not the reaction, it's the hands always wanting to be occupied, I guess eating is a full time deterrent.
So after this...I'll have to re-read the thread on weight loss? Ouch! A never ending battle with addictions, Is it not folks?
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rowdy01 wrote:
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You're cheating the hookers over on Sullivant Avenue out of money. Get into counseling ASAP.
You're just going to have to do double duty and take up the slack.
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FKA Reader wrote:
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I think that the real deal is that so much of diet ia actually behavioral. Learning to recognize and respond to hunger--as opposed to stress, pattern, availability of food, boredom, whatever--is fairly important, and probably takes some ongoing support of some kind. Unlike an alcohol addiction where you have to avoid the substance altogether, everybody needs to eat something, so there is some retraining that has to go along with the education about how many calories and where they ought to come from.
What really struck a chord with me is all the anti sugar literature I've read over the years. I read the Atkins book, but I thought the diet was gross. But I do get the "good carb" (fruits and veggies) versus "bad carb" (bread, cereal, candy, pastries, alcohol, etc.) thing. I love Italian Bread and my body is such that the more of that stuff I eat, the more my body craves sugar (hunger pangs) and the more I eat. When I don't have any of that stuff, my body doesn't have any abnormal cravings like that and I can eat fairly normally.

I also know that when I do drink, my body starts going crazy again with the hunger pangs.

Exercise helps as it increases blood flow. I think people are finding this to be an important element in treating depression, ADD, mood swings, and other things like that.

"If" alcohlism is related to those cravings (which I can believe since alcohol is another form of sugar), this all starts making a lot of sense.

Like I said, I'm no expert on this stuff just trying to connect the bits and pieces together where they make sense.

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sidekick wrote:
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That's good, Reader. I've heard that occupying the hands into different activities help. A doctor told me that's the myth behind people gaining weight after quitting. It's not the reaction, it's the hands always wanting to be occupied, I guess eating is a full time deterrent.
So after this...I'll have to re-read the thread on weight loss? Ouch! A never ending battle with addictions, Is it not folks?
Yep, we had a skinny woman at work who was a heavy smoker. She quit pretty much cold turkey and immediately took up food to compensate. And blowed up like a balloon in short order. She readily admitted that the weight gain was because of nervous eating.

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<quoted text>No,not yet.But I did just get back from the hospital where they tried to do a brain scan and were shocked when they couldn't find one.That explaines everything!!!!!!
LOL--you must be feeling better today!

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