Shop Target where convicts work
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#22 Oct 30, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
Isn't Nate's babymama a felon of some sort?
Yep.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#23 Oct 30, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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All employers should be free to hire those employees and serve those customers they deem fit.
No employer should be forced to assume a known risk.
Let the market will render the consequences.
That's exactly what Target is doing, yet you are crying about it.
wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#24 Oct 30, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
All employers should be free to hire those employees and serve those customers they deem fit.
No employer should be forced to assume a known risk.
Let the market will render the consequences.
The consequence could be your loved one duct taped in a trunk for ransom, or a gun in the back at the atm.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#25 Oct 30, 2013
For the most part, recidivism rates have been consistently shown to decline with age.

I have no problem with people being able to use criminal conviction records as part of the employment screening process, but a "one size fits all" policy that simply excludes felons from employment merely on the basis of a "felony" conviction unnecessarily excludes many qualified people out of the market when there is little demonstrable actual risk to a potential employer.

People change over time, and the statistics are quite clear...you hit 35-40 years of age and the risk of repeat offenses precipitously drops.

woof
wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#26 Oct 30, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
The leftist blame game never ceases to amaze me.
If you believe your tripe, then you must realize that social programs are useless.
Social programs help millions of handicapped, elderly, mentally disabled, impoverish children...if that's a waste to you your jesus has a special place waiting for you to go.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#27 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
Jesus would never hire a felon. Jesus said, "Fck those felons." Nate 6:66.
Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?

If you like felons, move them in with you or are you a felon?

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#28 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Here's a newsflash for you, Tip. There are a whole bunch of felons out there. You run into one every day. Do you think that felon is more likely to harm you if he or she is gainfully employed or forced into a position of desperation by an ignorant society?
Not my problem, you should have thought about it before you were charged with a felon!

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#29 Oct 30, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text> The consequence could be your loved one duct taped in a trunk for ransom, or a gun in the back at the atm.
Logic FAIL.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#30 Oct 30, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text> Social programs help millions of handicapped, elderly, mentally disabled, impoverish children...if that's a waste to you your jesus has a special place waiting for you to go.
But you are claiming that desperate people turn to crime despite the presence of government and charitable programs available to help them.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#31 Oct 30, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?
If you like felons, move them in with you or are you a felon?
They are people, just like you are.

There's a huge difference in the seriousness of the crimes and potential risks posed to society between persons convicted of a fifth degree felony and a first degree felony.

Likewise, the further attenuated the conviction is by time, the less risk.

I wonder what Jesus would say about it.

woof

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#32 Oct 30, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
Isn't Nate's babymama a felon of some sort?
That would be news to me, but you sound as if I'd actually care.

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#33 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
Can you tell me what she was convicted of? I think my son should know.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#34 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
That's exactly what Target is doing, yet you are crying about it.
Indeed, Target has elected to assume unknown risks.
We'll see how it plays out for them and their patrons.

Still, no employer should be prevented by government from discovering a potential employee's criminal history -- as I was speaking to George's reference to various state "Ban the Box" campaigns, requiring employers to remove questions concerning criminal records, and forcing them into a more complex path to discovering those records. And no employer should be forced to hire those with criminal records.

I am not against employment for felons.
I am all for informed decisions on the part of employers, particularly concerning their liability with respect to other employees and patrons.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#35 Oct 30, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?
If you like felons, move them in with you or are you a felon?
Why do you ask? Are you suggesting that Jesus would have preached to allow people to have a second chance?

No one is suggesting that you have a felon "move in with you." The suggestion is to give them a chance at basic employment.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#36 Oct 30, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
<quoted text>
Not my problem, you should have thought about it before you were charged with a felon!
If you live in a community, it is your problem.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#37 Oct 30, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Can you tell me what she was convicted of? I think my son should know.
I can tell you what felony she committed based on your rantings about her. If she wasn't convicted, it leads me to question your veracity.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#38 Oct 30, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not against employment for felons.
Which, of course, is why you wrote this:
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Just another -- in a long list of reasons -- not to patronize Target.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#39 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Which, of course, is why you wrote this:
<quoted text>
Because Target is hiring blind.
Then again, blindness suits you.

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#40 Oct 30, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell you what felony she committed based on your rantings about her. If she wasn't convicted, it leads me to question your veracity.
Why don't you tell us, then? We're all curious.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#41 Oct 30, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you tell us, then? We're all curious.
Aggravated vehicular assault.

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