Fatboy: Exercise 1st Amendment, we'll violate 2nd

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“Old Right”

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http://www.theblaze.com/storie s/2013/03/12/nj-mother-forced- to-turn-over-her-guns-charged- with-terroristic-threats-after -reading-the-constitution-at-t ax-dispute-assembly/
That's the worst piece of "journalism" I have ever read. No interviews of anyone other than the aggreived. No hard questions. Just manipulation of a story to try to fit an agenda.

The said thing is, there could be an interesting story here if investigated and written by a real journalist. The problem is, it has very little to do with guns.

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http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf...

I wouldn't be surprised if this woman was nuts, but at the same time, this is New Jersey and I would not be suprised to see an aggressive official as well.

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-The-Artist- wrote:
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-c ounty/index.ssf/2013/03/frankl in_woman_threatens_to_br.html
I wouldn't be surprised if this woman was nuts, but at the same time, this is New Jersey and I would not be suprised to see an aggressive official as well.
A lot of government offices, and businesses as well, prohibit firearms on site. Many employment policies as well that prohibit (unless of course your job involves such as law enforcement). Only one job I ever held in my life permitted employees (non-law enforcement) to carry a firearm into the workforce. And that was in one specific office, down south. Corporate offices prohibited on that site. Lots of those rules seem to have come from when "going postal" was all the rage... pun intended.

Not arguing for or against the 2nd amendment here, but most likely this woman was nuts.

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Mar 13, 2013
 
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A lot of government offices, and businesses as well, prohibit firearms on site. Many employment policies as well that prohibit (unless of course your job involves such as law enforcement). Only one job I ever held in my life permitted employees (non-law enforcement) to carry a firearm into the workforce. And that was in one specific office, down south. Corporate offices prohibited on that site. Lots of those rules seem to have come from when "going postal" was all the rage... pun intended.
Not arguing for or against the 2nd amendment here, but most likely this woman was nuts.
She never took the guns out of her house. The crazy tax assessor cried that she felt threatened at the public meeting, so the stormtroopers were sent over to Hart's house with a list of her guns obtained from the state registry and confiscated them.

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Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>She never took the guns out of her house. The crazy tax assessor cried that she felt threatened at the public meeting, so the stormtroopers were sent over to Hart's house with a list of her guns obtained from the state registry and confiscated them.
Yeah, that is basically what I got out of the article. And mind you, NJ is well, Jersey. But what I'm also getting out of this is that it is a he said-she said situation. There seems to be a documented version of a "threat."

Maybe "nuts" was too strong a descriptor for me to use, but something just doesn't add up here, either. Nothing was specifically stated she didn't take the guns out of her house, just ordered to hand over the guns--and she was told that while in custody. Unless I'm missing something?

Having been in government (and some public as well) meetings at the local level (years ago, when working at the county level with GIS data and folks hesitant about their property/tax data being made public), I can see the hesitation.(And yes, I am pro-2nd.)

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Yeah, that is basically what I got out of the article. And mind you, NJ is well, Jersey. But what I'm also getting out of this is that it is a he said-she said situation. There seems to be a documented version of a "threat."
Maybe "nuts" was too strong a descriptor for me to use, but something just doesn't add up here, either. Nothing was specifically stated she didn't take the guns out of her house, just ordered to hand over the guns--and she was told that while in custody. Unless I'm missing something?
Having been in government (and some public as well) meetings at the local level (years ago, when working at the county level with GIS data and folks hesitant about their property/tax data being made public), I can see the hesitation.(And yes, I am pro-2nd.)
It's a he-said she-said case. If I were the cop I would have taken the complaint from the whiny county functionary and sent it to the DA who probably would have sat both parties down in a conference room with a magistrate where they would have been asked to knock it off and let it go. The cops going to the hose was bad enough, but taking the guns was waaaay over the top. I hope the Harts sue everyone if only to get an apology.

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Yeah, that is basically what I got out of the article. And mind you, NJ is well, Jersey. But what I'm also getting out of this is that it is a he said-she said situation. There seems to be a documented version of a "threat."
Maybe "nuts" was too strong a descriptor for me to use, but something just doesn't add up here, either. Nothing was specifically stated she didn't take the guns out of her house, just ordered to hand over the guns--and she was told that while in custody. Unless I'm missing something?
Having been in government (and some public as well) meetings at the local level (years ago, when working at the county level with GIS data and folks hesitant about their property/tax data being made public), I can see the hesitation.(And yes, I am pro-2nd.)
This sums it up pretty well:

--- Eileen Hart objected to a mandatory re-evaluation of her property value that would drastically increase her tax rates
--- She read the Constitution at a tax dispute forum and called one of the appraisers a “pencil-pusher”
--- One of tax officials called 911 saying Hart threatened to return with a gun, but she unequivocally denies the claim
--- Hart was charged with making “terroristic threats” and told that if she didn’t turn over her weapons, her bail would be prohibitively high and it was unclear how long she would have to remain in jail

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George, I see your points... honestly I do. Understand it completely.

Having sat through a few county commissioners meetings, it's easy to get into very heated exchanges, quickly. And yes, some of those "officials" are paranoid. Very paranoid. It's funnier than hell that someone got insulted being called a "pencil pusher".

I'm betting that this goes away quietly. It's really a waste a public time and funds. The charges ought to be tossed out. I would also, if I were the ones writing the payments to ASI, FIRE them.

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George, I see your points... honestly I do. Understand it completely.
Having sat through a few county commissioners meetings, it's easy to get into very heated exchanges, quickly. And yes, some of those "officials" are paranoid. Very paranoid. It's funnier than hell that someone got insulted being called a "pencil pusher".
I'm betting that this goes away quietly. It's really a waste a public time and funds. The charges ought to be tossed out. I would also, if I were the ones writing the payments to ASI, FIRE them.
I agree, this is most likely the last we'll hear of it. Funny you mention the attitude of these little tin pot dictators...I had a friend who owned a restaurant outside of Boston and had forgotten to renew his license with the board of health. It had expired on a Sunday and on Monday he sent his wife to the town hall to renew it. When the clerk saw that it was expired she got the department head out of his office. He berated the poor woman and then suspended their license for a week for having been open the day before when the license was expired. She went back to her husband in tears. He opens the restaurant for lunch...20 minutes later here comes the BOH guy with a cop. It ended up with the place shut for the rest of the day and my friend getting his lawyer down to the town hall to straighten it out.
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-The-Artist- wrote:
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-c ounty/index.ssf/2013/03/frankl in_woman_threatens_to_br.html
I wouldn't be surprised if this woman was nuts, but at the same time, this is New Jersey and I would not be suprised to see an aggressive official as well.
Then why did you start this thread and caption it as you did?

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Then why did you start this thread and caption it as you did?
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Four hour differential, and it seems plausible.
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<quoted text>She never took the guns out of her house. The crazy tax assessor cried that she felt threatened at the public meeting, so the stormtroopers were sent over to Hart's house with a list of her guns obtained from the state registry and confiscated them.
Here you go again, working yourself into a frenzy. It's a condition of bond. When the case is over, assuming she doesn't become disabled by a conviction, she will get her guns back. Calm down.

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Here you go again, working yourself into a frenzy. It's a condition of bond. When the case is over, assuming she doesn't become disabled by a conviction, she will get her guns back. Calm down.
It's a violation of her Second Amendment rights. This was not a domestic case, it was a petty government official with hurt feelings crying to the police and probably lying. Shall we deprive you of your rights based on hearsay?
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Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>It's a violation of her Second Amendment rights. This was not a domestic case, it was a petty government official with hurt feelings crying to the police and probably lying. Shall we deprive you of your rights based on hearsay?
It's a condition of bond. That's it.

It's amazing how you know exactly what happened in that room when you weren't there. How do you do it?

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Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>It's a violation of her Second Amendment rights. This was not a domestic case, it was a petty government official with hurt feelings crying to the police and probably lying. Shall we deprive you of your rights based on hearsay?
Remember that Ed Show poll about drone attacks on US citizens...

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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It's a condition of bond. That's it.
It's amazing how you know exactly what happened in that room when you weren't there. How do you do it?
You seem to think you know or else you wouldn't be so blasé about it. The woman had no weapons at the forum. She's accused by ONE angry, petty county drone of threatening violence. She denies it. She has no criminal history. That is not a reason to confiscate her property.
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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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It's a condition of bond. That's it.
It's amazing how you know exactly what happened in that room when you weren't there. How do you do it?
He has special abilities. And people are watching him from cameras placed in the ceiling fixtures.

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Four hour differential, and it seems plausible.
So, just to clarify...you jump to conclusions and make unsupportable statements without any factual basis.

I've got that right, huh?

And you're the same moron who complains incessantly about media "bias"...right?

I just want to be sure I'm clear.

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Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to think you know or else you wouldn't be so blasé about it. The woman had no weapons at the forum. She's accused by ONE angry, petty county drone of threatening violence. She denies it. She has no criminal history. That is not a reason to confiscate her property.
Respectfully Paco, in this day of mass shootings by mentally unstable people with guns...it does constitute sufficient cause.

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