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Student's Suicide Blamed On Bullying | Ohio News Network (ONN)

There are 77 comments on the 10TV WBNS story from Nov 18, 2010, titled Student's Suicide Blamed On Bullying | Ohio News Network (ONN). In it, 10TV WBNS reports that:

Schools across the country are taking steps to fight bullying after the suicides of several young people.

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LLL

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#1 Nov 18, 2010
"Ohio has a bullying law. It is House Bill 276 and states that schools need to have a policy in place and that the policy needs to be in the school handbook. The Auditor of the State needs to verify that the policy is in place."
That is a weak law - pathetic really. Words in a handbook do not mean anything to a bully, and they do nothing to help the victims.
FixThePrincipals

Chadds Ford, PA

#2 Nov 18, 2010
They need to look close at the Massachusetts law. There is too much discretion given to the administration in schools on what is reported and dealt with. It allows the continued problem of inconsistent enforcement of policy based on status of liked students or those from influential families.

I don't think the culture will ever change in these schools until the Principals and VPs are employees of the state dept of education. Their position is too politically connected as it is. We are not learning anything from these educators after a bully suicide because they instantly get in legal defense mode, refuse to take responsibility for mistakes due to liability.

Schools need a very strong policy to tie the privilege of participation in sports with a students behavior and enforce it! Make the athletes be the example instead of often being part of the problem with their sense of entitlement that often comes with their sports achievements.
Jesse

United States

#3 Nov 19, 2010
Find out who the group of bully is and put a bullet to their heads. Eye for an eye. Welcome to Iraq!
The Scream Team

Columbus, OH

#4 Nov 19, 2010
FixThePrincipals wrote:
They need to look close at the Massachusetts law. There is too much discretion given to the administration in schools on what is reported and dealt with. It allows the continued problem of inconsistent enforcement of policy based on status of liked students or those from influential families.
I don't think the culture will ever change in these schools until the Principals and VPs are employees of the state dept of education. Their position is too politically connected as it is. We are not learning anything from these educators after a bully suicide because they instantly get in legal defense mode, refuse to take responsibility for mistakes due to liability.
Schools need a very strong policy to tie the privilege of participation in sports with a students behavior and enforce it! Make the athletes be the example instead of often being part of the problem with their sense of entitlement that often comes with their sports achievements.
If we could fire the administrators who let this go on in their schools, there would be a different outcome. They would be very vigilant if their butts were on the line.
From the Powell Bubble

Portsmouth, OH

#5 Nov 19, 2010
To the parents who lost thier children to bullies words; I'm so very very sorry for your loss and pain.

To Olentangy schools: I'm so so proud of the way you handle bullies. My kids were never bullied but I do know our principle at OLHS during thier years was very close to the hallway. If he saw it, He ended it! Good Job Mr. R
sensi with no sense

Lancaster, OH

#6 Nov 19, 2010
Bullying in adolescents will always be a problem.

The only way to fight bullying is to confront a bully when there are witnesses so the bully will lose his/her face.
Jus sayin

Columbus, OH

#7 Nov 19, 2010
I'm sorry for your loss. But you want the school to be proactive? I think it starts at home. If you were proactive then you would have known your son was upset. Take a part in your childs life.
ricky rot

Delaware, OH

#8 Nov 19, 2010
this is what happens why dont the kid kick the bullys ass i did when i was young i got into 20 fights from bullying never lost plus stop smoking that damn weeed
kicktheirazz

United States

#9 Nov 19, 2010
Schools need to high bouncers to kick the bullies azz. If you bully,you get an azz whippin.
sensi with no sense

Lancaster, OH

#10 Nov 19, 2010
Jus sayin wrote:
I'm sorry for your loss. But you want the school to be proactive? I think it starts at home. If you were proactive then you would have known your son was upset. Take a part in your childs life.
I am also proactive and give you another "mean" rating now.
Guido

Columbus, OH

#11 Nov 19, 2010
In my day you found a friend to kick the bully's @ss. Big brothers or a friend's big brother were always ready to prove their manhood and protect the younger boys. I had to kick @ss for my little brother one time. Once I did that he never had any trouble. It is part of life and there will always be bullies..we call them Alpha males or Bull dikes but there are ways to deal with them. Suicide is not the solution. Most bullies are really cowards. You just have to know what button to push..not a trigger. The new law is powerless to stop this..we are animal in nature and this is a pack mentality positioning issue.
Jeff the answer man

San Francisco, CA

#13 Nov 19, 2010
This is more a parenting concern than a school concern. If someone were to bully my kid, I would intervene. If necessary, meet with the parents of the kid. Rules do not change behavior, they only punish behavior. It is the epitome of too little, too late. If your kid is having social issues get involved!
From the Powell Bubble

Portsmouth, OH

#14 Nov 19, 2010
dingleberry wrote:
what a pu$$. grow a pair of onions and do something about it. suicide is a cowards way out.
Please try and remember these posts may be read by the parents of grieving family and friends. Loss to death is devistating to the people left behind. And, we are proud of your BIG onions but it is by the grace of God that you have the strength to rise above suicide. You would not like it if someone came to the funeral of one you loved and put them down, would you? Suicide can creep out of now where and we are here to help each other not hurt. I'm sorry you may think this is sappy.

This young man looks to have been a very sweet and talented gift from God. And, those devil minded bully's in Mentor took the best of him. Very very sorry for the loss.
Brian

Lima, OH

#15 Nov 19, 2010
We have laws against assault. We do not need laws against words. Whatever happened to teaching kids that sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you.
ClevelandGuy

North Ridgeville, OH

#16 Nov 19, 2010
Okay...SO very sorry for anyone's loss in this situation. I will say, however, this is NOT 'only' a parents problem/issue to deal with in the home! IF you KNEW how parents see their "little angels!" you would be shocked!...firstly, a LOT of these bully kids only act out IN schools!...and never ever show this type of behaiviour in the home! And second, in many many instants..even IF a child is a TERROR! the parent will side with this monster/kid EVERY single TIME!
"MYYyy Billy is NOT a bad boy!" or "You MUST have done something awful to make MY child DO such a thing!"
So yes, it's a huge HUGE problem that MUST be addressed seriously IN the Schools..every single adult in every school should be taught how to look for this behavior..AND..have full rights to STOP kids in their tracks when this stuff happens!
Toss the kid OUT of class's for a week..then, NO Sports or Xtra activities allowed for that semester..if another instance happens IN that year...NO Sports etc. for rest of the YEAR!
GCGirl

Reynoldsburg, OH

#17 Nov 19, 2010
ClevelandGuy wrote:
Okay...SO very sorry for anyone's loss in this situation. I will say, however, this is NOT 'only' a parents problem/issue to deal with in the home! IF you KNEW how parents see their "little angels!" you would be shocked!...firstly, a LOT of these bully kids only act out IN schools!...and never ever show this type of behaiviour in the home! And second, in many many instants..even IF a child is a TERROR! the parent will side with this monster/kid EVERY single TIME!
"MYYyy Billy is NOT a bad boy!" or "You MUST have done something awful to make MY child DO such a thing!"
So yes, it's a huge HUGE problem that MUST be addressed seriously IN the Schools..every single adult in every school should be taught how to look for this behavior..AND..have full rights to STOP kids in their tracks when this stuff happens!
Toss the kid OUT of class's for a week..then, NO Sports or Xtra activities allowed for that semester..if another instance happens IN that year...NO Sports etc. for rest of the YEAR!
Agree!!
Whatever

United States

#18 Nov 19, 2010
Not sure if this is the same boy, but a few weeks back the dispatch reported on a boy who was bullied for carrying a stuffed monkey everywhere at school, even insisting the toy have it's own desk. This family knew about the bullying, but why did they not tell him, "Son, I know that you love your stuffed monkey, but your life at school would be easier if you left him at home". This boy commited suicide.

I am NOT blaming the victim. Sometimes, it is best to blend in so you have peace. Yes, today everyone feels the need to be an "individual" however oftentimes that is the reason they are being picked on.
Whatever

United States

#19 Nov 19, 2010
Ok, not sure why the description of a stuffed animal was censored.

He carried a M O N K E Y stuffed animal.

I just wanted to clarify that I was not cussing or using an inappropriate word. Sometimes these censors make no sense.
Nadine Klass

United States

#20 Nov 19, 2010
By the School doing nothing then they are telling the person that is being bullied that it's ok- if the school knows it is going on they should have to do something to stop it & if they don't there should be a set amount say 1 mill that they would have to pay to the student & if the student kills themself then they should have to pay 5! It's time to send a clear message- so the person or persons doing the bulling should have to match the amount that the school must pay. Better yet KICK the bully out of school for the year end of story!
Nadine Klass

United States

#21 Nov 19, 2010
Brian wrote:
We have laws against assault. We do not need laws against words. Whatever happened to teaching kids that sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you.
You must not have ever been a target! How bout we get RID of the bully???? Don't you think it's time that a clear message is sent?? if you are caught bulling someone your're OUT for the rest of the year, how often do you think it would go on after the 1st person in the school is kicked out?

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