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“animis opibusque parati”

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#202 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.
If an alleged pedophile priest were to ask me to defend him, I would politely tell him that there are other attorneys more qualified to do that, as I don't practice criminal law (I have done so one time, got an acquittal, and have never done so again).
woof
Be honest, dawg.
You would never take on such a client under any circumstance.
Nor should you have to.

And, in fact, Christian business owners have offered referrals to potential homosexual clients as well...only to be sued and then forced by the government to provide services...or face criminal penalties.

Nothing could be more un-American.
You don't seem to get it.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#203 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Tell that to the Colorado baker.
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/asse...

That portion of the Colorado statute was repealed April 19th of 2013.

woof

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#204 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/asse...
That portion of the Colorado statute was repealed April 19th of 2013.
woof
Moot.

The intent of these statutes is to utilize the punishing arm of government to enforce only government-approved attitudes.

By the way, when anyone can detail how a business owner may accurately identify on sight an LGBTQI individual, let me know. As it stands, anyone at anytime may claim such status for themselves and then borrow the arm of government to punish at will.

It's ludicrous.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#205 Mar 5, 2014
Wait what wrote:
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Few smart cookies leave crumbs.
crumbs attract rodents

look at Che following the trail.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#206 Mar 5, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Have you begun to notice that what you consider to be legitimate is completely irrelevant?
It's more relevant than your liberal lies

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#207 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Again, marriage whether sacred or civil or both, is the union of one man and one woman.
If it is civil, the state can change it to whatever it wants.

Thus if it is civil, it's invalid.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#208 Mar 5, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
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If it is civil, the state can change it to whatever it wants.
Thus if it is civil, it's invalid.
My point to Duke was that marriage has ever been the union of one man and one woman. It is not up for redefinition, as the Leftists surmise all foundations to be.

I would support the government abandoning the marriage business, particularly as government has become the bludgeoning agent of Leftist redefinition...as you noted.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#209 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Moot.
The intent of these statutes is to utilize the punishing arm of government to enforce only government-approved attitudes.
By the way, when anyone can detail how a business owner may accurately identify on sight an LGBTQI individual, let me know. As it stands, anyone at anytime may claim such status for themselves and then borrow the arm of government to punish at will.
It's ludicrous.
Can you say "red herring"?

Ask your Colorado baker friend.

woof

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#210 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Be honest, dawg.
You would never take on such a client under any circumstance.
Nor should you have to.
And, in fact, Christian business owners have offered referrals to potential homosexual clients as well...only to be sued and then forced by the government to provide services...or face criminal penalties.
Nothing could be more un-American.
You don't seem to get it.
I'll be honest. There are many factors that enter into whether or not I'll take on a particular client. Their preferences in sexual partners isn't one of them.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#211 Mar 5, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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I can choose to prosecute some trespassers, but not others. Even a public servant, a police officer, has the right to pull over some violators, but not others.
Nether one of those examples involve the "rights" of the officers involved.

woof

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#212 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I'll be honest. There are many factors that enter into whether or not I'll take on a particular client. Their preferences in sexual partners isn't one of them.
woof
The pedophile priest will be happy to hear that.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#213 Mar 5, 2014
Hey Tippy.

How would the religious beliefs of you and those baker friends of yours apply here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/mast...

https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-lgb...

Ya think God would be displeased? I mean...marriage is between a man and a woman only, and dogs are neither.

woof

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#214 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Can you say "red herring"?
Ask your Colorado baker friend.
woof
woof
Legally-enforced government-approved attitudes:

"If there is a finding that a place of public accommodation engaged in discriminatory conduct as defined by C.R.S. 24-34-601, the Commission can issue an order for the Respondent to cease and desist from engaging in such discriminatory practices. If the Division finds through its investigation that discriminatory conduct was engaged in, and attempts to settle the case after such a finding are not successful, the Commission may decide to set the case for hearing before an Administrative Law Judge.

The Commission may also order a Respondent place of public accommodation who has been found to have engaged in a discriminatory practice as defined by the statute to rehire, reinstate, and order back pay to any employee who complied with the public accommodation anti-discrimination statute. The Commission also has the authority to require Respondents who have been found to have engaged in discriminatory practices as defined by the statute to make reports to the Commission to show compliance with the statute, and take affirmative action such as posting notices informing the public of its rights under the public accommodation anti-discrimination statute.

An individual can file a public accommodations discrimination claim in court instead of filing with the Division per C.R.S. 24-34-602. Under this section of the statute, if a finding of discrimination is made, a violator would be subject to a fine of not less than fifty dollars, and no more than 500 dollars. The fine is paid to the aggrieved party."

“animis opibusque parati”

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#215 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Hey Tippy.
How would the religious beliefs of you and those baker friends of yours apply here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/mast...
https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-lgb...
Ya think God would be displeased? I mean...marriage is between a man and a woman only, and dogs are neither.
woof
You Leftists always tell me that animals cannot consent.
Have you changed your minds on that point?
If so, practitioners of bestiality have some accommodation statutes to acquire and enforce.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#216 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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You Leftists always tell me that animals cannot consent.
Have you changed your minds on that point?
If so, practitioners of bestiality have some accommodation statutes to acquire and enforce.
I'm not the person baking cakes for dog weddings yet claiming that my religious beliefs are such that God tell me marriage may only be afforded to a male human and a female human.

So I don't understand...why are you asking me those questions?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#217 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Legally-enforced government-approved attitudes:
"If there is a finding that a place of public accommodation engaged in discriminatory conduct as defined by C.R.S. 24-34-601, the Commission can issue an order for the Respondent to cease and desist from engaging in such discriminatory practices. If the Division finds through its investigation that discriminatory conduct was engaged in, and attempts to settle the case after such a finding are not successful, the Commission may decide to set the case for hearing before an Administrative Law Judge.
The Commission may also order a Respondent place of public accommodation who has been found to have engaged in a discriminatory practice as defined by the statute to rehire, reinstate, and order back pay to any employee who complied with the public accommodation anti-discrimination statute. The Commission also has the authority to require Respondents who have been found to have engaged in discriminatory practices as defined by the statute to make reports to the Commission to show compliance with the statute, and take affirmative action such as posting notices informing the public of its rights under the public accommodation anti-discrimination statute.
An individual can file a public accommodations discrimination claim in court instead of filing with the Division per C.R.S. 24-34-602. Under this section of the statute, if a finding of discrimination is made, a violator would be subject to a fine of not less than fifty dollars, and no more than 500 dollars. The fine is paid to the aggrieved party."
No...nobody is enforcing "attitudes" Tippybigot. They're enforcing state law which proscribes discrimination by those engaged in businesses which offer public accommodations.

You really should read that decision from the ALJ in the Masterpiece case. Its very well written, and explains fairly succinctly why in Colorado, one may not refuse service to someone based upon their sexual orientation.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#218 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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The pedophile priest will be happy to hear that.
Maybe, maybe not.

I've never lost a criminal trial.

woof

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#219 Mar 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I'm not the person baking cakes for dog weddings yet claiming that my religious beliefs are such that God tell me marriage may only be afforded to a male human and a female human.
So I don't understand...why are you asking me those questions?
woof
Leftists....perpetually unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

Knowing their mindset on same-sex marriage, however, I can see how they would hold a dog marriage to be valid.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#220 Mar 5, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
I have the right to paint my house pink, even though I have no intention of doing so.
it is better stated that you have a right to paint your house any color you want. Within the scope of zoning regulations of course.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#221 Mar 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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It was directed at you.
You can't give a straight answer.
We get it.
I can't answer such an ill defined question.

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