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tip wrote: <quoted text> Study the photo. Some folks are visual learners. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09... And some folks just don't learn at all. Read the words--kept his hands in his pockets--not cuffed. The face covering was his own choice.
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tip
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> And some folks just don't learn at all. Read the words--kept his hands in his pockets--not cuffed. The face covering was his own choice. Indeed, read the words: "...authorities descended on the Cerritos home ..." "...sheriff's deputies escorted..." "...When the man was taken away early..." And I am very certain it was NOT his own choice to have his home address publicized to the world...particularly now that the Obama administration has declared to the world that this man's movie -- and his movie alone -- is responsible for the murderous actions of Muslims around the world on 9/11/12 and continuing...
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Since: Aug 12
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tip wrote: <quoted text> Indeed, read the words: "...authorities descended on the Cerritos home ..." "...sheriff's deputies escorted..." "...When the man was taken away early..." And I am very certain it was NOT his own choice to have his home address publicized to the world...particularly now that the Obama administration has declared to the world that this man's movie -- and his movie alone -- is responsible for the murderous actions of Muslims around the world on 9/11/12 and continuing... "First, let me introduce you to my hometown of Cerritos, California. My family moved there in 1970, just a few years past its unincorporated status of Dairy Valley... ... the most notoriety our town ever had was for a horrible tragedy, the Aero Mexico plane crash of 1986. I had moved out of Cerritos by that time, but by chance happened to be at our then-family home when the crash occurred. It killed 67 people in the air and another 15 on the ground, in a neighborhood that looked as though it had been bombed. Why bring that up? It was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this report from local TV station KTLA in the media’s pursuit of “Sam Bacile,” the man behind the YouTube video that provided an excuse for rioting in a number of countries. Take a look at just the first minute or so of this report. Look at all of the media trucks in this sleepy little neighborhood, and not just KTLA’s. If anyone interested in taking revenge on Nakoula Besseley Nakoula wanted to know where to find him, it wouldn’t take long in this small city, especially with some media reports noting Nakoula’s distinctive front door. And while some people wouldn’t care about Nakoula’s fate, the kind of people looking to take revenge on him aren’t really known for their precision attacks and avoidance of collateral damage. This media swarm puts that entire neighborhood at risk, now and probably for a very long time. And for what? Is Nakoula a serial killer? A child molester? No, he’s a man with poor taste who made a video that insulted some people who can’t deal with criticism, even the laughably inane and inept criticism of this 14-minute cheesefest that makes Plan 9 From Outer Space look like Citizen Kane. However, in the US, making really bad movies and engaging in even inept theological and historical commentary isn’t a crime at all. The media are undermining the same guarantees of free speech that allow them to operate without government interference, and they’re putting people’s lives at risk while doing so. They’re not going to be happy until there’s another crater in Cerritos." http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/15/media-e...
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Henry Jefferson wrote: <quoted text> "...They’re not going to be happy until there’s another crater in Cerritos." http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/15/media-e... The Left would be ecstatic over such an event.
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Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls
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tip wrote: <quoted text> The Left would be ecstatic over such an event. And some how they will tie blame to GW Bush.
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tip wrote: <quoted text> Indeed, read the words: "...authorities descended on the Cerritos home ..." "...sheriff's deputies escorted..." "...When the man was taken away early..." And I am very certain it was NOT his own choice to have his home address publicized to the world...particularly now that the Obama administration has declared to the world that this man's movie -- and his movie alone -- is responsible for the murderous actions of Muslims around the world on 9/11/12 and continuing... It was the press who located him. He agreed to some brief interviews early on. He showed his ID to journalists--which is how they figured out that the pseudonym of Sam Bacile (which he posted on you-tube himself) was drawn from his middle name. I believe his name is a public record as the owner of his house. Yeah--mahybe he wanted to throw insults and remain anonymous. The problem is that he has a history of bank fraud using false identities. So, he is prohibited from using pseudonyms by the terms of his probation. You are apparently so blinded by your hatred of Obama that you cannot see anything else.
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WiseAmerican
Columbus, OH
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Jimmy wrote: <quoted text> Obama is denying Youtube freedom of speech. He is acting just like a Muslim dictator. If we are not careful Obama will change the constitution and make himself a Dictator just like the Muslims have. Jimmy, Jimmy, I sincerely hope that you are not that ignorant to think Obama can override Congress to become a dictator. You low information voters is what keeps the division going in America. Learn about our three branches of government then you can voice your concerns.
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WiseAmerican
Columbus, OH
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Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote: <quoted text> And some how they will tie blame to GW Bush. No, not Bush Karl Rove, the brain behind Bush, who is now a surrogate of the Romney campaign. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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tip
Columbus, OH
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> It was the press who located him. He agreed to some brief interviews early on. He showed his ID to journalists--which is how they figured out that the pseudonym of Sam Bacile (which he posted on you-tube himself) was drawn from his middle name. I believe his name is a public record as the owner of his house. Yeah--mahybe he wanted to throw insults and remain anonymous. The problem is that he has a history of bank fraud using false identities. So, he is prohibited from using pseudonyms by the terms of his probation. You are apparently so blinded by your hatred of Obama that you cannot see anything else. Do you understand that this citizen has been charged with no crime relating to this film...yet the President of the United States has globally branded this citizen as solely responsible for the murderous Muslim attacks perpetrated around the world on 9/11/12 and continuing since? If anyone is blind to the facts, it is you. Your burqa has slipped over your eyes.
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“Don't trust the internet!”
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tip wrote: <quoted text> Do you understand that this citizen has been charged with no crime relating to this film...yet the President of the United States has globally branded this citizen as solely responsible for the murderous Muslim attacks perpetrated around the world on 9/11/12 and continuing since? No, tip. That is not true.
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tip
Columbus, OH
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> No, tip. That is not true. And the sky is not blue.
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tip
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/0... Jay Carney: "This is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy. This is in response to a video that is offensive." Susan Rice, US Ambassador to the UN: "...in fact, it is the case. We had the evolution of the Arab Spring over the last many months but what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the Internet of a very hateful very offensive video that has offended many people around the world."
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Since: Aug 12
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> No, tip. That is not true. How is it not true? Susan Rice is running her mouth saying that the attacks weren't planned even as the evidence indicates otherwise. Even the Libyan president says they were planned. But our government is alone in trying to convince the world that it was a silly video clip that started it. The public is smarter than that.
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Big Johnson
Columbus, OH
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tip wrote: <quoted text> The Left would be ecstatic over such an event. Not as ecstatic as the Right is over the ambassador's murder.
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tip wrote: http://www.realclearpolitics.c om/video/2012/09/16/ambassador _rice_film_responsible_for_att acks_not_administrations_polic y.html Jay Carney: "This is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy. This is in response to a video that is offensive." Susan Rice, US Ambassador to the UN: "...in fact, it is the case. We had the evolution of the Arab Spring over the last many months but what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the Internet of a very hateful very offensive video that has offended many people around the world." Mixing a lot of different things, here, tip. In Libya we really had two different events. One was the film protest, the other was the armed attack. The film DOES in fact seem to be the spark that has ignited anti-American protests across the Middle East. However the reason that the film has been able to cause such a firestorm has to do wiwth a number of widespread views and beliefs about the United States. Not only is there the belief that if the government wanted to shut down the film it could, but there is also the belief that the US opposes Islam, hates Arabs, is bent on the destruction of their way of life and a good many other things. Much of this stems from our long history of friendship with Israel, although there are likely a lot of other factors that have contributed--including the need of dictators across the area to rally around fear of an enemy. Now--are these fears wholly rational? Perhaps not. And yet, I see in this country the same kinds of irrational fears being fostered against Muslims as a whole. Think about it.
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Oliver
Columbus, OH
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> Mixing a lot of different things, here, tip. In Libya we really had two different events. One was the film protest, the other was the armed attack. The film DOES in fact seem to be the spark that has ignited anti-American protests across the Middle East. However the reason that the film has been able to cause such a firestorm has to do wiwth a number of widespread views and beliefs about the United States. Not only is there the belief that if the government wanted to shut down the film it could, but there is also the belief that the US opposes Islam, hates Arabs, is bent on the destruction of their way of life and a good many other things. Much of this stems from our long history of friendship with Israel, although there are likely a lot of other factors that have contributed--including the need of dictators across the area to rally around fear of an enemy. Now--are these fears wholly rational? Perhaps not. And yet, I see in this country the same kinds of irrational fears being fostered against Muslims as a whole. Think about it. Fish swim, Birds fly, and Muslims kill. In fact Muslims are most violent right after "prayers" which proves that Islam is not a religion as it incites to outward manifestations of violence and not inner peace. In additions Muslims will not allow any church, synagogues or Buddhist temples to be built in their countries since Islam is dedicated to the destruction of those faiths per the Quran. Thus, Islam is not a religion but a force bent on the destruction of any culture that is not Islamic.
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WiseAmerican
Columbus, OH
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tip wrote: <quoted text> And the sky is not blue. Post anything that quotes Obama saying he blames the film maker! We don't care about what some conservative blogger wrote. I want to see facts, not partisan political dogma.
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WiseAmerican
Columbus, OH
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FKA Reader wrote: <quoted text> It was the press who located him. He agreed to some brief interviews early on. He showed his ID to journalists--which is how they figured out that the pseudonym of Sam Bacile (which he posted on you-tube himself) was drawn from his middle name. I believe his name is a public record as the owner of his house. Yeah--mahybe he wanted to throw insults and remain anonymous. The problem is that he has a history of bank fraud using false identities. So, he is prohibited from using pseudonyms by the terms of his probation. You are apparently so blinded by your hatred of Obama that you cannot see anything else. Notice is fictional directors name? Break in down it means IMBECILE! SAM BACILE Without the S.
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WiseAmerican wrote: <quoted text>Notice is fictional directors name? Break in down it means IMBECILE! SAM BACILE Without the S. His real name is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Rufus.
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WiseAmerican
Columbus, OH
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Oliver wrote: <quoted text> Fish swim, Birds fly, and Muslims kill. In fact Muslims are most violent right after "prayers" which proves that Islam is not a religion as it incites to outward manifestations of violence and not inner peace. In additions Muslims will not allow any church, synagogues or Buddhist temples to be built in their countries since Islam is dedicated to the destruction of those faiths per the Quran. Thus, Islam is not a religion but a force bent on the destruction of any culture that is not Islamic. This statement is a true fact, but it is not the mission nor the responsibility of the U.S. government to destroy over a billion Muslims on this earth. It is what it is, and unless the world governments are willing to destroy 2/3 of the world, Islam will be with us until Christ sets is Kingdom here. So get used to Muslim violence and terrorism, or send the nukes and destroy planet earth. That's the only choice you have. Good luck!
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