The George Zimmerman Case!

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#1948 Jun 16, 2013
And by the way, with regard to Mary Cutcher...

http://radionewz.net/2012/06/part-v-witness-f...

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#1949 Jun 16, 2013
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You may listen to the 911 call yourself, you know.
We've provided both the transcript and link.
If you don't stop insisting that your speculative scenario is the truth, you're going to land yourself in the psych ward.
I have listened to it many times, thank you.

Again, please explain how you account for the location of the body, phone and flashlight in any way that is consistent with Zimmerman's story.

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#1950 Jun 16, 2013
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Well, i think Mr MMA style fighting probably had a chat with his attorney about the penalties for perjury.
I can speculate, too.

Perhaps he took the Black Panthers' vigilante threats toward Zimmerman seriously, and opted for self-protection.

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#1951 Jun 16, 2013
Oh, and guess what?

When the Black Panther vigilantes target someone with the intent to kill them, do you suppose they call 911 so as to document their efforts for law enforcement?
Wait what

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#1952 Jun 16, 2013
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I have listened to it many times, thank you.
Again, please explain how you account for the location of the body, phone and flashlight in any way that is consistent with Zimmerman's story.
Repeating this over and over again, like a mantra, while ignoring much of what is presented in front of you is a little weird.

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#1953 Jun 16, 2013
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I have listened to it many times, thank you.
Again, please explain how you account for the location of the body, phone and flashlight in any way that is consistent with Zimmerman's story.
Your broken record doesn't prove the charge.

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#1954 Jun 16, 2013
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That is injury, singular.
And we don't know if it was offensive, defensive or from something completely unrelated.
Very good, Reader... WE DON"T KNOW! That's what's called "reasonable doubt"!

You're catching on...

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#1955 Jun 16, 2013
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So, there is no direct (and the distinction I was inquiring about was between circumstantial and physical, BTW) evidence to support Zimmerman's self defense claim, by your definition.
Circumstantial CAN be physical... the puddles I referenced in the previous post. Direct evidence is what one witnesses. Zimmerman is the witness. Just because he happens to be a defendant doesn't change that fact.

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#1956 Jun 16, 2013
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How do you account for the location of the body?
Witness error. Pretty common.

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#1957 Jun 16, 2013
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Further:
"There’s another reason to believe that Zimmerman stopped following Martin: After he gives the dispatcher his personal address, at 3:35, he says,“Oh crap, I don’t want to give that all out. I don’t know where this kid is,” meaning he is worried Martin might hear where he lives. If Zimmerman doesn’t even know where Martin is, would it even be possible for him to still be following Martin at this point? Would it even be possible for him to have continued following Martin after hanging up the phone — a full two minutes after he first got out of his car and a minute and a half after he fully stops breathing heavily — unless Martin came back and revealed himself?"
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/911-call-sh...
He lost sight of him.

He did not, however give up looking and go back to the truck (West).

He went South, looking for Trayvon. And he found him.

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#1958 Jun 16, 2013
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And if a witness changing their story to fit a certain side doesn't smack of something being wrong, then I really don't know what to say to you.
And the fact that a witness is allowed to change their story, but Zimmerman is expected to be perfect.

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#1959 Jun 16, 2013
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He lost sight of him.
He did not, however give up looking and go back to the truck (West).
He went South, looking for Trayvon. And he found him.
Your psychic told you?

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#1960 Jun 16, 2013
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He lost sight of him.
He did not, however give up looking and go back to the truck (West).
He went South, looking for Trayvon. And he found him.
REPEAT, from the bond hearing transcript:

O’MARA: My question was do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car?

GILBREATH: No.

O’MARA: No evidence. Correct?

GILBREATH: Understanding — are you talking about at that point in time?

O’MARA: Since. Today. Do you have any evidence that conflicts with his suggestion that he had turned around and went back to his car?

GILBREATH: Other than his statement, no.

O’MARA: Any evidence that conflicts with that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He answered it. He said no.

O’MARA: Any evidence that conflicts any eyewitnesses, anything that conflicts with the contention that Mr. Martin assaulted first?

GILBREATH: That contention that was given to us by him, other than filling in the figures being one following or chasing the other one, as to who threw the first blow, no.
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#1961 Jun 16, 2013
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Zimmerman's injuries are inconsistent with his description. He repeatedly declined treatment. WW's legal expert cites contusions to front and back of the head--despite there being no contusions noted to the back of the head in two medical reports. The nasal bleeding (external) is consistent with recoil from the gun, abrasions consistent with going through bushes. Multiple possibilities far the back of the head lac--none of them blows on concrete.
How did the body get there?
About those contusions....

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/george-zim...

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#1962 Jun 16, 2013
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And by the way, with regard to Mary Cutcher...
http://radionewz.net/2012/06/part-v-witness-f...
I was referring to witness #2.

In fact there a a number of witnesses each having pieces.

Eye witnesses, however, are always prone to subjective memory and interpretation. So they don't fit neatly together.

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#1963 Jun 16, 2013
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Repeating this over and over again, like a mantra, while ignoring much of what is presented in front of you is a little weird.
And yet another refusal to deal with facts.
Wait what

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#1964 Jun 16, 2013
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I was referring to witness #2.
In fact there a a number of witnesses each having pieces.
Eye witnesses, however, are always prone to subjective memory and interpretation. So they don't fit neatly together.
LOL. What Tony said! NOT to mention they aren't eyewitnesses to the crime.
Wait what

Crestline, OH

#1965 Jun 16, 2013
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And yet another refusal to deal with facts.
Your facts are not real facts. Those "eyewitnesses" have been discounted.
Wait what

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#1966 Jun 16, 2013
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And yet another refusal to deal with facts.
Facts? Forensics experts can't even agree on what intermediate range is!
Wait what

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#1967 Jun 16, 2013
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And yet another refusal to deal with facts.
What do you call it when you accuse someone else of doing what you're doing? I can't recall.

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