The George Zimmerman Case!

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#1515 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
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SELF DEFENSE??? DOesn't self defense IMPLY that there is some sort of OFFENSIVE THREAT present in your space?
How is walking home from a convenience store with a Soda in one hand and a package of Skittles in the other talking on a cell phone a THREAT to your freedom or well being?
You are so convinced that this is about the 2nd ammendment or the "stand your ground" law. NEITHER is applicable in this case.
Trayvon was not breaking into anyone's property or George Zimmerman's. Trayvon was not armed, or posing a threat to anyone. Trayvon was walking home from a convenience store. Trayvon did not initiate the confrontation. Zimmerman FOLLOWED TRAYVON.
The "self defense" posture will not fly here.
You cannot stalk someone and by doing so, posture yourself as a THREAT to them, and then cry foul when they punch you in the face. Zimmerman generated and engaged this situation BY NOT FOLLOWING THE ADMONITION OF THE 911 operator.
Your argument is as limp the brain you usually think with.
Your name calling indicates your level of education and argument to be on par with most low brow knuckle draggers. Do you also collect SSDI? Let me guess, you hate democrats, but you sure do love the "socialistic perks"! HA HA HA!
It is not illegal to follow someone.
Zimmerman maintains that Martin circled back and attacked him.
Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.
Therefore, the state must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1516 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text>
SELF DEFENSE??? DOesn't self defense IMPLY that there is some sort of OFFENSIVE THREAT present in your space?
How is walking home from a convenience store with a Soda in one hand and a package of Skittles in the other talking on a cell phone a THREAT to your freedom or well being?
You are so convinced that this is about the 2nd ammendment or the "stand your ground" law. NEITHER is applicable in this case.
Trayvon was not breaking into anyone's property or George Zimmerman's. Trayvon was not armed, or posing a threat to anyone. Trayvon was walking home from a convenience store. Trayvon did not initiate the confrontation. Zimmerman FOLLOWED TRAYVON.
The "self defense" posture will not fly here.
You cannot stalk someone and by doing so, posture yourself as a THREAT to them, and then cry foul when they punch you in the face. Zimmerman generated and engaged this situation BY NOT FOLLOWING THE ADMONITION OF THE 911 operator.
Your argument is as limp the brain you usually think with.
Your name calling indicates your level of education and argument to be on par with most low brow knuckle draggers. Do you also collect SSDI? Let me guess, you hate democrats, but you sure do love the "socialistic perks"! HA HA HA!
Do you ever read your own posts? I mean after your diastolic drops below 120...you not only aren't too bright, you have serious anger issues.

Here's where to write if you think my degree was awarded in error 28 years ago:

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I'm not about to give you my employer's contact information.

Carry on with your rants. They tell us a great deal about you.

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#1517 Jun 13, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<q text>
It is not illegal to follow someone.
Zimmerman maintains that Martin circled back and attacked him.
Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.
Therefore, the state must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense.
The state has ample evidece that Zimmerman's story is bogus.

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#1518 Jun 13, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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The state has ample evidece that Zimmerman's story is bogus.
Only in your prejudicial mind.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#1519 Jun 13, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I didn't realize you were watching your weight or a diabetic. By all means.
RD=Registered Dietitian. Your inference along with the schooling we need to TRY to provide you is laughable. Know the players if you want to play...

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Since: Jan 12

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#1520 Jun 13, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Only in your prejudicial mind.
DNA.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#1521 Jun 13, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Bullshit! You know you want lipstick lady to show up and give you a few lessons.
Bought you a lovely chartreuse color as a gift, from the sale rack.
Oolongti

Liberty Hill, TX

#1522 Jun 13, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not illegal to follow someone.
Zimmerman maintains that Martin circled back and attacked him.
Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.
Therefore, the state must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense.
AWWW, but here's the rub sunshine....
He wasn't just merely following...HE HAD A LOADED WEAPON on him...
DId he tell the 911 operator that he was carrying a loaded weapon and going to "just follow" the "suspicious" person?
NO...he said nothing to the operator about having a gun...
Did he remain in his car? NO
Did he follow the instructions of the 911 operator? NO
He didn't act in self defense....
He INVITED violence into his own life, and now wants the world to feel sorry for him for his idiot decisions....
too bad...so sad.
He's a loser. He killed an innocent, unarmed person.
He CHOSE to carry a loaded weapon.
He CHose to use that loaded weapon.
He chose to follow Trayvon.
He chose to get out of his car and confront Trayvon.
How is any of this SELF DEFENSE?
Oolongti

Liberty Hill, TX

#1523 Jun 13, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Do you ever read your own posts? I mean after your diastolic drops below 120...you not only aren't too bright, you have serious anger issues.
Here's where to write if you think my degree was awarded in error 28 years ago:
Colby College
4000 Mayflower Hill
Waterville, ME 04901
I'm not about to give you my employer's contact information.
Carry on with your rants. They tell us a great deal about you.
You should ask for your money back....
I don't think this forum is about YOUR DEGREE 28 years ago...
did you get on the wrong bus?
Obviously reading is your second best subject.
You might consider looking up the word projection, as it applies psychologically.
Is the "us" in your aforementioned response the many voices you hear inside your little coconut?
Let's not deflect now from the subject at hand, shall WE?
Try to focus and stay on topic...

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#1524 Jun 13, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
DNA.
The actual results are inconclusive, particularly since the tests were not run immediately and there remains a question of degradation.

Both sides will have experts testify as to their interpretations.

Certainly, neither can present their evidence as proof beyond a resonable doubt.
Oolongti

Liberty Hill, TX

#1525 Jun 13, 2013
Clayton....does your employer know how much time you spend blasting people on the internet?
Maybe someone should let your employer know....hehehehehehe
FYI....you are being monitored...hehehehehe
( wink wink)
Maybe I'm hired by your employer to monitor you....heheheheh

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#1526 Jun 13, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Was that before or after the recording of him getting out the police car with no bandages on the back of his head?
"wise anto american"
In addition to being stoopid you also must be blind. Pictures were shown of the back of Zimmerman's head, there was blood visiable. Now we all know that trayvon was a fine upstanding citizen and he would/could never do anything like that so that means Zimmerman beat his own head into the ground.
Peace
KMA

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Since: Oct 12

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#1527 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text>
AWWW, but here's the rub sunshine....
He wasn't just merely following...HE HAD A LOADED WEAPON on him...
DId he tell the 911 operator that he was carrying a loaded weapon and going to "just follow" the "suspicious" person?
NO...he said nothing to the operator about having a gun...
Did he remain in his car? NO
Did he follow the instructions of the 911 operator? NO
He didn't act in self defense....
He INVITED violence into his own life, and now wants the world to feel sorry for him for his idiot decisions....
too bad...so sad.
He's a loser. He killed an innocent, unarmed person.
He CHOSE to carry a loaded weapon.
He CHose to use that loaded weapon.
He chose to follow Trayvon.
He chose to get out of his car and confront Trayvon.
How is any of this SELF DEFENSE?
Florida is one of the states comprising these United States of America...where all defendants are innocent until proven guilty.

Your opinions are not proof.
The majority of evidence in this case is circumstantial.

The state faces an uphill battle in its tardy case to placate race-driven activists with a guilty conviction.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1528 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text>
AWWW, but here's the rub sunshine....
He wasn't just merely following...HE HAD A LOADED WEAPON on him...
DId he tell the 911 operator that he was carrying a loaded weapon and going to "just follow" the "suspicious" person?
NO...he said nothing to the operator about having a gun...
Did he remain in his car? NO
Did he follow the instructions of the 911 operator? NO
He didn't act in self defense....
He INVITED violence into his own life, and now wants the world to feel sorry for him for his idiot decisions....
too bad...so sad.
He's a loser. He killed an innocent, unarmed person.
He CHOSE to carry a loaded weapon.
He CHose to use that loaded weapon.
He chose to follow Trayvon.
He chose to get out of his car and confront Trayvon.
How is any of this SELF DEF"ENSE?
"He CHOSE to carry a loaded weapon.
He CHose to use that loaded weapon.
He chose to follow Trayvon.
He chose to get out of his car and confront Trayvon."

Even if your last two points are true, none of the four are illegal.
And Ashtray was anything but innocent. Open your mind for a moment (if that's possible without you breaking the Caps Lock key).

6:22

Trayvon, with his hoodie up, grabs two items from the shelves of 7-11. One is the Skittles. The other is Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail. The media avoid the name of the real drink -- possibly because of the racial implications of the word "watermelon," but possibly to avoid probing the real reason for Trayon's trip.

Trayvon, in fact, had become a devotee of the druggy concoction known as "Lean," also known in southern hip-hop culture as "Sizzurp" and "Purple Drank." Lean consists of three basic ingredients -- codeine, a soft drink, and candy. If his Facebook postings are to be believed, Trayvon had been using Lean since at least June 2011.

On June 27, 2011, Trayvon asks a friend online, "unow a connect for codien?" He tells the friend that "robitussin nd soda" could make "some fire ass lean." He says, "I had it before" and that he wants "to make some more." On the night of February 26, if Brandy had some Robitussin at home, Trayvon had just bought the mixings for one "fire ass lean" cocktail.

6:25

Three squirrely young men enter the 7-11, all of them with their faces concealed in part or in full. The clerk had to have been nervous. One of the three (Curly) takes off his hat and shakes out his long, curly dark hair. He is likely either white or Hispanic, or, like Zimmerman, a "white Hispanic."

6:27

Curly appears to be holding the two bills Trayvon walked out with. He approaches the clerk and buys two cheap cigars from behind the counter and then a third one as an afterthought.

6:28

Curly is the first of three to exit. The others will follow in a minute.

6:29

Trayvon, turning as he walks, can be seen through the window heading back towards the Retreat at Twin Lakes and Brandy's house.

7:09

Zimmerman calls police while watching Trayvon near the gated community's clubhouse, less than a half-mile from the 7-11. According to "Dee-Dee," the girl Trayvon was periodically talking to on his cell phone, he was ducking in out of the rain. She also said he put his hoodie up for the same reason. In fact, though, Trayvon had his hoodie up inside the 7-11, and he was walking in the rain when Zimmerman spotted him. The walk to this point should have taken 10 minutes.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#1529 Jun 13, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Only in your prejudicial mind.
"-tip-"
Hey if "fake reader" says Zimmerman is guilty he is guilty. "fake reader" has all the facts, he knows all. How can you possibly question him? No trial necessary in his mind, just a waste of money, hang the prick, save the money.
Shit I have no idea what the outcome of the trial will be. After all oj was not guilty. Right? Ha Ha.
Peace

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1530 Jun 13, 2013
It took 40 minutes. Some background may help explain why. Earlier that same month, Trayvon had been caught at school holding a bag with marijuana residue and a marijuana pipe. He was suspended for the third time that school year, this time for ten days. Trayvon may have been dealing as well. As one online friend had communicated earlier, "Damn were u at a n#### need a plant."
Trayvon was partial to "blunts," street slang for cannabis rolled with the tobacco-leaf wrapper from an inexpensive cigar called a "blunt." As a tribute after his death, one friend posted online a photo of a homemade badge honoring Trayvon positioned next to a blunt.
It seems altogether possible that Curly bought at least one of those cigars for the under-aged Trayvon and took those visible dollar bills as payment. Trayvon waited five minutes outside the 7-11 and did not leave until after Curly came out. In the 40 minutes before Zimmerman spotted him, Trayvon could have scraped the tobacco out of the cigar, replaced it with marijuana, and smoked his blunt.
"This guy looks like he's up to no good," Zimmerman tells the police. "Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about." Trayvon was on drugs or had been recently. His autopsy showed the presence of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in both his blood and his urine.
It is possible too that Trayvon was up to no good. "He's just staring, looking at all the houses," says Zimmerman. Trayvon had a history. On October 21, 2011, he received his second suspension that school year. A security guard at his school saw Trayvon writing "WTF" on a hallway locker. In looking through his bag for the marker, the guard found 12 pieces of jewelry, a watch, and a "burglary tool."
Zimmerman did the prudent thing by reporting Trayvon to the police. Ever since the Florida real estate bust, the Retreat at Twin Lakes had been troubled by vacancies, foreclosures, and renters of dubious repute. The community had suffered numerous break-ins and home invasions, the perpetrators of which were all young men, most of them black. "We report all suspicious persons & activities to the Sanford Police Department," reads the standard neighborhood watch sign at the community's gated entrance. If Trayvon did not fit the bill, no one did.
According to the autopsy report, Trayvon was 5'11" tall and weighed 158 pounds, the "ideal healthy weight" at that height being 160 pounds. He was not the skinny little boy with the Skittles that half of America still believes him to be. He was at least three inches taller than Zimmerman and only about 20 pounds lighter.
His home life a wreck, his school life in disarray, Trayvon had fallen victim to urban America's lost boy culture.
This culture, which the media also choose not to see, has been shockingly destructive. Citing Bureau of Justice statistics, black economist Walter Williams in a recent column notes that "between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims." Of these, Williams estimates that roughly "262,621 were murdered by other blacks."

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1531 Jun 13, 2013
Trayvon had "statistic" written all over him. In the past year or so, his social media sites showed a growing interest in drugs, in mixed martial arts-style street fighting, in a profoundly vulgar exploitation of "bitches."

Trayvon posed for one photo with raised middle fingers, another with wads of cash held in an out-stretched arm. One YouTube video shows him refereeing a fight club-style street fight. A cousin had recently tweeted him, "Yu ain't tell me yu swung on a bus driver," meaning, if true, that Trayvon had punched out a bus driver.

Zimmerman never saw the cute little boy that the TV audience did. He saw a full-grown man, a druggy, a wannabe street fighter, the tattooed, gold-grilled, self-dubbed "No_Limit_N####."

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1532 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
Clayton....does your employer know how much time you spend blasting people on the internet?
Maybe someone should let your employer know....hehehehehehe
FYI....you are being monitored...hehehehehe
( wink wink)
Maybe I'm hired by your employer to monitor you....heheheheh
I'm not at work today, Barry. And believe me, my employer could run circles around any surveillance you've seen in the movies.
Maybe you should grow up.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1533 Jun 13, 2013
Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text>
You should ask for your money back....
I don't think this forum is about YOUR DEGREE 28 years ago...
did you get on the wrong bus?
Obviously reading is your second best subject.
You might consider looking up the word projection, as it applies psychologically.
Is the "us" in your aforementioned response the many voices you hear inside your little coconut?
Let's not deflect now from the subject at hand, shall WE?
Try to focus and stay on topic...
You questioned my education and I set you straight. Deal with it. And the "money back" stupidity goes back to "Prince Albert in a can." You're surely not going to make in standup, kid.
As for "us," you really don't know what you're in for on the Columbus forum. You'd better have your mom wash you big boy pants.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#1534 Jun 13, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"-tip-"
Hey if "fake reader" says Zimmerman is guilty he is guilty. "fake reader" has all the facts, he knows all. How can you possibly question him? No trial necessary in his mind, just a waste of money, hang the prick, save the money.
Shit I have no idea what the outcome of the trial will be. After all oj was not guilty. Right? Ha Ha.
Peace
Oh, I'm very familiar with Reader.
She sold her soul to pay for white man's guilt.
And she intends to sell every other white soul as well.

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