Wesboro Baptist Phelps Closet Ghay?

Wesboro Baptist Phelps Closet Ghay?

Posted in the Columbus Forum

Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#1 Mar 15, 2013
former member of the Westboro Baptist Church who recently published a book about leaving the hate-mongering group has also revealed that founder Fred Phelps's anti-gay ideology may have spawned from a gay experience.

Lauren Drain, 27, was a member of the Topeka, Kan., congregation until she challenged the group's beliefs and had to leave. She sat down this week with the Advocate to discuss her book and her journey from follower to free.

Drain suggested to the Advocate that founder Fred Phelps might have formed the Westboro Baptist Church and begun his anti-gay crusade because of a gay experience. He was a Boy Scout who graduated with honors and was headed for the military, she said. Then, at 17, Phelps changed his mind and was suddenly set on becoming a preacher to fight against "sexual immorality."

Via the Advocate:

I never understood why, when [the media asked him],“Why are you so against the homosexuals? Did you have a homosexual experience? Do you have homosexual tendencies?” And he would get so mad, he would shut down. And he’d be like,“I can’t talk to this person anymore, they’re stupid.” His reaction to that was stronger than any other question you can ask him. So I always wondered that — why does he get so mad? If I’m not gay, I’ll just say I’m not gay. And I’m not going to freak out, like,“Why are you calling me gay?” I always thought that was super strange.… I don’t know what happened there, so [speculation] is all that I can leave it at. But something happened, and something made him change his mind about the military, and in turn have kind of a crusade against sexual immorality and homosexuals.
Not only did she leave Westboro, but Drain also has become an advocate for gay rights and anti-bullying. In February, she posed for the NOH8 campaign, a movement that promotes equality.

"I don't think anyone should judge or persecute another human being or any group of individuals based off of those personal, chosen, beliefs," she told NOH8. "I am against any and all forms of violence, discrimination, bullying or bigotry directed at someone else due to their personal lifestyle."

March 5 saw the release of Drain's book, Banished: Surviving My Years in the Westboro Baptist Church, in which she describes how she grew up with Westboro during her formative years, after her father developed an obsession with the group and moved his family from Florida to Kansas.

During a reddit "Ask Me Anything" session last month, one commentator asked Drain, "Do you think Fred Phelps is gay? If not, how do you explain his extreme interest in homosexuality?" She didn't answer the question at the time, but she did say Phelps has managed to brainwash his followers so much that they believe the hate just as staunchly as he does.

"I don't think Fred Phelps becoming incapable would be the reason the church would collapse," she said when asked if Westboro may crumble after the 83-year-old dies. "I tend to think it is disintegrating as more and more members question things and get kicked out or leave. The brainwashing is so deep that the second and third generation believe just a strongly as the Pastor himself."
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#2 Mar 15, 2013

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#3 Mar 15, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2013/03/15/lauren-drain-westbo ro-baptist-church-fred-phelps- gay-experience_n_2877987.html? ir=Politics&ref=topbar
Interesting and hardly surprising.

Possible--from the story--that Phelps was profoundly confused by a same-sex sexual assault he experienced. Doesn't necessarily add up to him being a closeted gay.

But I do think that people who are sexually healthy in their own lives are far less likely to become obsessive in relationship to the sex lives of others. My understanding of Westboro is that it is less of a church and more of a family operation. And some of the teachings provided to children there have always looked to me to walk right up to the edge of emotional and psychological abuse.
Fred Phelps

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 15, 2013
Yes I am gay and ashamed of it. By spewing rabid hatred against gays I can fool people into thinking I am not gay myself. Which I am.
-tip-

Columbus, OH

#5 Mar 15, 2013
Fred Phelps wrote:
Yes I am gay and ashamed of it. By spewing rabid hatred against gays I can fool people into thinking I am not gay myself. Which I am.
Me too!
Yorka Litoris

Clarksville, TN

#6 Mar 15, 2013
Fred Phelps wrote:
Yes I am gay and ashamed of it. By spewing rabid hatred against gays I can fool people into thinking I am not gay myself. Which I am.
We already knew that Fred

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#7 Mar 15, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Me too!
Feck off ya feckin' gobsheen.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#8 Mar 15, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Me too!
I knew it!!!!

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#9 Mar 15, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I knew it!!!!
woof
Well, just like everything else you think you know -- you're wrong.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Columbus Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Man shot near Ferguson protest….. 28 min Duke for Mayor 114
They're Shooting News Reporters On Live TV 2 hr Spot for Guvnah 32
Poll Who Do You Support For President 3 hr d pants 408
News 400-Plus Arrested In Statewide Drug 3 hr JFD 1
OH ANNIE! Ashley Madison called…. 4 hr Seriouslady 5
News Columbus drivers spent 41 hours last year stuck... 18 hr They cannot kill ... 5
TRUMP is going to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! 20 hr d pants 170
More from around the web

Personal Finance

Columbus Mortgages