American Thinker weighs in on Zimmerman

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#43 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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So he didn't and now he's dead.
Hardly justification.
And by the time he was screaming hysterically at the point of a gun, I don't believe he had his phone any more.
Conjecture yet again on your part of the circumstances; you continue to pretend you were a witness to the situation.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#44 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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So he didn't and now he's dead.
http://s.iosfans.com/...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#45 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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The question was asking YOU to support a claim that you made. I already know that Trayvon had no way of knowing that the police were on their way. He was walking home and talking to a friend (substantiated by phone records).
Zimmerman, on the other had DID know that the police were on their way--he was talking to the dispatcher up to 2 minutes before the fatal shot was fired.
Florida has some interesting public record laws. Virtually all evidence (unless specifically ruled otherwise by the court) becomes public record as soon as it is made available to the defense on discovery. And once it is public record there are all kinds of folks requesting it. Complete transcripts and tapes of police and FDLE interviews, all kinds of evidence-tracking records, transcripts and audio of 911 calls, photos, some limited medical info etc. have been widely available from multiple sources for quite some time. Some is even posted on Zimmerman's own site, put up by his attorney.
And FYI, the photo you have probably seen in full bloody color, moved outside the official chain of custody--one reason it wasn't immediately available.
But--since you are claiming that all Trayvon had to do (to keep from getting shot) was to sit and wait for the police to show up, I think it is reasonable for you to answer the question. What makes you think he had any idea the police were coming? And he should have sat instead of exactly what?
guess you missed the part where zimmerman said loud while on the call....i called the police.

you only must have listened to the doctored up version NBC reported.

and you ilk continues to destroy evidence, or doctor up what they think they can get away with. They have been caught multiple times.

a mis-trial should be called for NBC tampering with the jury pool.

if someone like you is selected to the jury who believes false evidence and lies, then how is a fair trial going to occur?

how many lemmings like you believe NBC reporting?

life saving lesson for you......it is best to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#46 Mar 14, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Conjecture yet again on your part of the circumstances; you continue to pretend you were a witness to the situation.
Reader is Travon's fairy grandmother.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#47 Mar 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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How much does Tran make? I have been curious about that for awhile.
she said zero, so your w2 matches hers.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#48 Mar 14, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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she said zero, so your w2 matches hers.
You may have missed it, but in the other thread I asked if you might be willing to expand on your analysis of my life and lifestyle in more detail, having often spoken of my perceived poverty. I would love if you would be able to do that, either here or at the site of my original request, which I am happy to link to if needed.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#49 Mar 14, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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she said zero, so your w2 matches hers.
And you make 5 times that. Hmmmmmm.

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Since: Jan 12

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#50 Mar 14, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Conjecture yet again on your part of the circumstances; you continue to pretend you were a witness to the situation.
SOMEONE was screaming hysterically--heard on a 911 call. And the screams stop with the shot.

The problem is that ALL of the suppositions about what Trayvon did that supposedly contributed to his death are conjecture.

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#51 Mar 14, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Conjecture yet again on your part of the circumstances; you continue to pretend you were a witness to the situation.
Oh, and Trayvon's phone was found in the grass to the south of where the body was located.

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#52 Mar 14, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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guess you missed the part where zimmerman said loud while on the call....i called the police.
you only must have listened to the doctored up version NBC reported.
Guarantee, RS, I have not destroyed any evidence.

How about you provide a link to the transcript or tape of the phone call in which Z. says loud, in hearing of Trayvon "I called the police."

Waiting.

Since: Oct 10

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#53 Mar 14, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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Reader is Travon's fairy grandmother.
Seems you're right (no offense).

I've stayed out of this because the fact is that NO ONE knows completely what will come out at trial.

The telephone witness 'girlfriend' has now been caught lying, so her testimony is tainted, at best.

It was a tragic accident and I think both were partially responsible, to what extent, I don't know.

And neither does ANYONE else. Let the courts handle it.

Since: Oct 10

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#54 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Guarantee, RS, I have not destroyed any evidence.
You were called in to take part in the investigation? How about you produce some evidence of that.

“Meh.”

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#55 Mar 14, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Seems you're right (no offense).
I've stayed out of this because the fact is that NO ONE knows completely what will come out at trial.
The telephone witness 'girlfriend' has now been caught lying, so her testimony is tainted, at best.
It was a tragic accident and I think both were partially responsible, to what extent, I don't know.
And neither does ANYONE else. Let the courts handle it.
So your statement is that...

1. NO ONE can know what happened.

2. It was a tragic accident. They were both at fault.

3. But nobody knows how much they were both at fault because it is impossible for anyone to know what happened.
...?
It feels a bit like an early level logic puzzle.

Since: Oct 10

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#56 Mar 14, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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So your statement is that...
1. NO ONE can know what happened.
2. It was a tragic accident. They were both at fault.
3. But nobody knows how much they were both at fault because it is impossible for anyone to know what happened.
...?
It feels a bit like an early level logic puzzle.
Yawn...

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#57 Mar 14, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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You were called in to take part in the investigation? How about you produce some evidence of that.
No--not called to take part in the investigation. Just responding to RS charge of destroying evidence.

Here is a site with a pretty complete catalogue of evidence that has been released so far: http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/

I also see that Zimmerman's attorney just released some portions of the telephone (Trayvon's) analysis. Nothing very interesting that I can see--but the part that is still protected by the judge is what might be GPS tracking of Trayvon's exact path on that night.

Since: Oct 10

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#58 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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No--not called to take part in the investigation. Just responding to RS charge of destroying evidence.
Here is a site with a pretty complete catalogue of evidence that has been released so far: http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/
I also see that Zimmerman's attorney just released some portions of the telephone (Trayvon's) analysis. Nothing very interesting that I can see--but the part that is still protected by the judge is what might be GPS tracking of Trayvon's exact path on that night.
You've already set yourself up and acted as jury and judge on this, found Zimmerman guilty of premeditated murder in the first. Death penalty imposed.

The court system and juries don't work that way and there is that 'beyond a shadow of a doubt' pesky jury instruction.

I'm sorry somebody is dead, but I have paid very little attention to the sensationalism and rumors.

I've lived in Florida when there's been a legitimate white on black death. If Zimmerman is found not quilty, there's a good chance that from south Miami northwards there will be rioting, burning and murdering of many white citizens who never heard of Trayvon Martin.

When a white cop shot and killed a black criminal in Miami when I was in high school, it was a horrible reaction. Blacks went on the hunt for whites. A white teenage girl was snatched by blacks, taken to a house, and for weeks repeatedly raped over and over by strangers who were just walking down the street and her kidnappers would call them inside to further rape her. She was 15.

Whites driving on the FL turnpike and other roads would be shot while driving by someone in a car that pulled along side. Dad carried a gun back and forth to the track, sent mother and I back to DE and in a few weeks, moved the horses, men and himself back.

You have no idea what you are instigating. Let the courts handle it. My true feeling is that you would have no interest if there was not a racial element here that you could use and play to the hilt.

People like you are worse than open racists. You USE blacks to make yourself seem very benevolent, when in fact, you are the one underlining, emphathizing and setting front and center the racial differences and inciting more bigotry.

You don't care about Trayvon Martin or his family, except for the soapbox it allows you to climb up on to tell the rest of us we're idiots. You're exploiting the all too sudden death of a young boy.

I don't know what happened, you don't know what happened and the only person who does is on trial, as he should be.

Now, set your lap dogs on me. I could care less.

Since: Oct 10

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#59 Mar 14, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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No--not called to take part in the investigation. Just responding to RS charge of destroying evidence.
Here is a site with a pretty complete catalogue of evidence that has been released so far: http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/
I also see that Zimmerman's attorney just released some portions of the telephone (Trayvon's) analysis. Nothing very interesting that I can see--but the part that is still protected by the judge is what might be GPS tracking of Trayvon's exact path on that night.
You wrote:

"Guarantee, RS, I have not destroyed any evidence"

But YOU were never in any position to destroy any evidence, were you? You were not part of the investigation.

You totally mislead anyone reading your post into assuming you were a member of the investigation team in FL on the Trayvon Martin murder.

Or you have the poorest writing skills of anyone on the planet.

So I guess, compared to that gigantic mistatement of yours, my saying in a paragraph about Tennessee, Georgia and southern accents, "her brother has no accent", leaving out the word 'southern', isn't the big deal you made it out to be.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#60 Mar 15, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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The court system and juries don't work that way and there is that 'beyond a shadow of a doubt' pesky jury instruction.
It's beyond a reasonable doubt.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#61 Mar 15, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
I could care less.
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/care.htm...

Actually, browsing all of the errors couldn't hurt. It's really a wonderful resource.

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.h...

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#62 Mar 15, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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SOMEONE was screaming hysterically--heard on a 911 call. And the screams stop with the shot.
The problem is that ALL of the suppositions about what Trayvon did that supposedly contributed to his death are conjecture.
Operative word...SOMEONE. Ms. Judge/Jury

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