Westboro Fred Phelps Dies; Ex-Communicated

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Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#1 Mar 20, 2014
I don't like celebrating death, but I'm sho''nuf gonna make a testament to this chief of the haters with a spiritual DANCE on his grave...he's a shining example of the pinnacle of hatred that continues to pervade our society, and I, for one, will be marking this time as the TRUE beginning of death to the anti-gay, minority hatred espoused by our so called "churches". I know that his was really a business entity used to facilitate funding through legal court awards and first amendment rights, but his life was spent in bringing up agony and anger in others rather than creating any kind of love in the world. I'm remedied by the fact that he was ex-communicated from his own church by his own family. Live by the sword...

Fred Phelps, anti-gay Westboro Baptist founder, dies
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

Fred Phelps Sr., a fierce opponent of homosexuality whose protests at military funerals prompted two federal laws, died early Thursday, his daughter Margie Phelps says. She didn't give the cause of death or the condition that recently put him in hospice care. He was 84.

Phelps headed the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., and was occasionally involved in politics. He gained national prominence for organizing protests against gays and Jews, including at military funerals.

MORE: Phelps deathbed reports spark celebration from foes

He led protesters outside the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student who was killed in October 1998 for what a later trial determined was because he was gay. President Obama signed a law in October 2009 making crimes against perceived sexual orientation a hate crime.

The Anti-Defamation League called the church "a small, virulently homophobic, anti-Semitic hate group" and the Southern Poverty Law Center called it "arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America."

The group also protested military funerals by saying soldiers deserved to die for defending an irreversibly corrupt government.

President George W. Bush signed a law in May 2006 that established a 150-foot zone prohibiting picketing at military funerals within an hour of the service. Obama signed a similar law in August 2012 that increased the buffer to 300 feet and doubled the prohibition to within two hours of the service.

Phelps was himself an occasional candidate. In the Kansas Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 1992, Phelps got 31% of the vote against Gloria O'Dell, who got 69%. She eventually lost to Republican Sen. Bob Dole.

Phelps, a graduate of Washburn University law school, was disbarred from Kansas state courts in 1979 after badgering a witness in a civil case in what the state Supreme Court called "a personal vendetta."

“animis opibusque parati”

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#2 Mar 20, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
I don't like celebrating death, but I'm sho''nuf gonna make a testament to this chief of the haters with a spiritual DANCE on his grave...
You "sho''nuf" are, arentcha, 12-Yrs-a-Pretender?

Here, I'd pegged Tues-Thurs-Sat as your LGBTQIABCDEF Persona days.
Looks like you worked in a little of your Mon-Wed-Fri Black Persona in the above post.
You multi-tasker, you.

Say, if you add that you'll be dancing on your prayer rug -- thus incorporating your Sunday Muslim Persona as well -- you will have won the trifecta.
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#3 Mar 20, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
You "sho''nuf" are, arentcha, 12-Yrs-a-Pretender?
You are obvisouly a loser now and you probably always have been. Pity on you. Were you ex-communicated as well for being such a loser?

“animis opibusque parati”

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#4 Mar 20, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
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You are obvisouly a loser now and you probably always have been. Pity on you. Were you ex-communicated as well for being such a loser?
Now, you're getting it.
That anti-Christian "excommunication" jab qualifies as your Sunday Muslim Persona.

You're WINNING.
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#5 Mar 20, 2014
I always win...what's your point, dufus??

“animis opibusque parati”

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#6 Mar 20, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
I always win...what's your point, dufus??
Only you and Charlie Sheen think you are winning.
yeah baby yeah

Columbus, OH

#7 Mar 20, 2014
Fred Phelps, life-long democrat.
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#9 Mar 21, 2014
AS abolutely nobody with a loving heart and mind are mourning Phelps, it's good for us to remember that his hatred actually fueled more acceptance of LGBT people in our society. His extremis clearly defined the hatred of the rightwing and showed people in that extreme a place where they would not, and could not, stand......

THU MAR 20, 2014 AT 10:54 AM PDT
How I chose to remember Fred Phelps
bytmservo433

When the Phelps clan first started protesting, the US was a very different place. At that time, the view in society was shaped by the idea that gay rights weren't 'real'. We sometimes forget how far we've come on this issue, but in the 80s and early 90s, when I was in school, the talking points of even liberal politicians on Gay issues were non-existent. Outside of a small group, no one was talking about gay rights. Reagan and Bush certainly weren't. The first democratic president since Carter opted for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'. The idea of the closet was big and had wide support.

Phelps protests brought out moms, dads, college kids who said: this is not what I believe in. I don't believe in hatred. The idea of a passive support system, a nice pat on the back that said 'I'm OK with people being gay' wasn't enough when people like Fred went out of their way to make life hard on others.

When Fred and his clan showed up, large groups would show up to show their support for their fellow man. The voice of hatred wouldn't be left with a bullhorn all on it's own. It would be opposed.

Martin Luther King Jr. said: "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

People who watched the Phelps rallies at first looked across the streets, the parking lots, the businesses and saw no one to oppose hatred. Only an empty space. Darkness. Fred would never be driven away with darkness. Their lack of opposition was fertilizer for his hatred to grow. Instead, they brought love and affection for their fellow man. They were respectful to Fred - I don't remember almost any of these resorting to a fight, but the held up signs that told people: We love you. Don't listen to the hate.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/20/1286...

“Queen of my domain”

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#10 Mar 21, 2014
Personally, I find Reader's rant ironic. Spending more negative energy --hate -- over Phelps who was a hater. Why do this? I was ignoring the stories when it was announced he was in hospice. Let the jerk rot in his grave and not waste another bit of worry over him--the guy was nuts.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#11 Mar 21, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
Personally, I find Reader's rant ironic. Spending more negative energy --hate -- over Phelps who was a hater. Why do this? I was ignoring the stories when it was announced he was in hospice. Let the jerk rot in his grave and not waste another bit of worry over him--the guy was nuts.
Yeah. Let's not waste anymore negative energy. Let's just wish that the guy rot in his grave. Because that's not expressing negative energy.

“Queen of my domain”

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#12 Mar 21, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Yeah. Let's not waste anymore negative energy. Let's just wish that the guy rot in his grave. Because that's not expressing negative energy.
Cry me a river. Wait, second thought, here's a box of kleenex. Go away. The guy was a jerk, he was a leftie, and he was nuttier than a Christmas fruit cake.

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#13 Mar 21, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
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You are obvisouly a loser now and you probably always have been. Pity on you. Were you ex-communicated as well for being such a loser?
'Pity on you?' Hello, reader.

Want to talk about the Zimmerman trial?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#14 Mar 21, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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Cry me a river. Wait, second thought, here's a box of kleenex. Go away. The guy was a jerk, he was a leftie, and he was nuttier than a Christmas fruit cake.
So your lecture was about everybody else wasting negative energy on this. You conveniently are excluded from your own advice. Got it.

“Queen of my domain”

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#15 Mar 21, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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So your lecture was about everybody else wasting negative energy on this. You conveniently are excluded from your own advice. Got it.
Opinion. But then again, you forget the difference between "opinion" and "lecture." Also do you not realize that once dead, you do rot? Embalming fluid only stalls the process.Again, just how smart are you?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#16 Mar 21, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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Opinion. But then again, you forget the difference between "opinion" and "lecture." Also do you not realize that once dead, you do rot? Embalming fluid only stalls the process.Again, just how smart are you?
Please provide the difference between "lecture" and "opinion." That should be entertaining.

“Queen of my domain”

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#17 Mar 21, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Please provide the difference between "lecture" and "opinion." That should be entertaining.
The difference is obvious. Compare my few sentences to this, "lawyer":
Scheherazade wrote:
**********I don't like celebrating death, but I'm sho''nuf gonna make a testament to this chief of the haters with a spiritual DANCE on his grave...*******

he's a shining example of the pinnacle of hatred that continues to pervade our society, and I, for one, will be marking this time as the TRUE beginning of death to the anti-gay, minority hatred espoused by our so called "churches". I know that his was really a business entity used to facilitate funding through legal court awards and first amendment rights, but his life was spent in bringing up agony and anger in others rather than creating any kind of love in the world. I'm remedied by the fact that he was ex-communicated from his own church by his own family. Live by the sword...
Fred Phelps, anti-gay Westboro Baptist founder, dies
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
Fred Phelps Sr., a fierce opponent of homosexuality whose protests at military funerals prompted two federal laws, died early Thursday, his daughter Margie Phelps says. She didn't give the cause of death or the condition that recently put him in hospice care. He was 84.
Phelps headed the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., and was occasionally involved in politics. He gained national prominence for organizing protests against gays and Jews, including at military funerals.
MORE: Phelps deathbed reports spark celebration from foes
He led protesters outside the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a University of Wyoming student who was killed in October 1998 for what a later trial determined was because he was gay. President Obama signed a law in October 2009 making crimes against perceived sexual orientation a hate crime.
The Anti-Defamation League called the church "a small, virulently homophobic, anti-Semitic hate group" and the Southern Poverty Law Center called it "arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America."
The group also protested military funerals by saying soldiers deserved to die for defending an irreversibly corrupt government.
President George W. Bush signed a law in May 2006 that established a 150-foot zone prohibiting picketing at military funerals within an hour of the service. Obama signed a similar law in August 2012 that increased the buffer to 300 feet and doubled the prohibition to within two hours of the service.
Phelps was himself an occasional candidate. In the Kansas Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 1992, Phelps got 31% of the vote against Gloria O'Dell, who got 69%. She eventually lost to Republican Sen. Bob Dole.
Phelps, a graduate of Washburn University law school, was disbarred from Kansas state courts in 1979 after badgering a witness in a civil case in what the state Supreme Court called "a personal vendetta."
EMPHASIS MINE.

Make it quick, it's half time and Kentucky's winning. I don't care to do all your work, again. It's tiresome.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#18 Mar 21, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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The difference is obvious. Compare my few sentences to this, "lawyer":
<quoted text>
EMPHASIS MINE.
Make it quick, it's half time and Kentucky's winning. I don't care to do all your work, again. It's tiresome.
Someone's "tiresome" alright.

woof

“One clam, one vote”

Since: Aug 12

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#19 Mar 21, 2014
Here's the best words I read about this man's death:

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-mil...

"It would be tempting to turn that concept back on Phelps and whatever loved ones he might have. It might feel satisfying to disrupt his own funeral, carrying signs that say “God, and people of faith, and people who have no religion at all, hate bigots.” It might be cathartic for people who believe in Hell to discuss openly, in front of mourners, what kind of accommodations Phelps will have in eternal fire. Phelps refused to let gays, lesbians, transgender and bisexual people live lives of dignity; he refused to let servicemembers be mourned and buried with honor, and he interfered with the basic right of human beings to say peaceful good-byes to those they have lost. Why should he be given any of those considerations now?

Behaving decently isn’t about the impact on people who may or may not deserve our decency. It is a practice that by definition must be exercised without discrimination. The reason we should not picket career hater Fred Phelps’ funeral is simple: because we are not Fred Phelps. We need not mourn his death. But neither must we endorse his bigoted and destructive tactics by continuing his tactics."
Happy happy joy joy

Columbus, OH

#20 Mar 21, 2014
What I will do on Fred Phelps' grave won't pass for flowers.
Gargoyle

Dayton, OH

#21 Mar 22, 2014
Queers again doing their usual coprophile, death hag, schadenfreude monkey crap.

What else is not new?

I wouldn't be surprised if some queer would dig up Phelps from the grave, and give him the dirty, excuse me the anal sex, they just know Phelps was itching to try.

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