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#647 Feb 6, 2014
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Naturally...as I hold that God created the Earth and is, therefore, the Author of its Natural Laws and of Science. The study of Science is ultimately the study of God's master plan. And no one knows exactly how He accomplished it or how long it took.
It is atheists who refuse to consider the possibility that God was involved -- even if via evolution. But, they must admit that, in any quest for ultimate truth, this possibility should not be excluded. Particularly, in light of the fact that Science itself declares that nothing comes from nothing. Just ask Einstein. That fact, in itself, results in a real credibility problem for "scientists" who rabidly insist that evolution is a proven fact.
And...yes, very closely-related species in the animal kingdom have been hybridized by mankind, but the offspring are generally infertile [i.e., ligers, mules, et al] and/or subject to other genetic/chromosomal defects. The results are similar to the lab-created protocell model referenced by Duke -- where mankind's attempts at creation only ever utilize existing DNA...and often with poor results.
Always reminds of this old joke.
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God and religions are not natural, they are man made social beliefs. Of course it is your right of choice to believe in your theory of how it is the Universe came to be .. That is more a philosophic question, than, what is relevant in the here and now. What is a reality for you and I , and the other 7 billion plus people on this planet, is the biosphere and eco systems of our planet.Mankind has become the dominant species on this planet. our piety indifference of religion, race , monetary inequality, and self righteous nationalism , will be of no importance, if we continue on this course of environmental destruction. We all need, fresh water,healthy food, shelter, The resources and the means they come about, are of this planet, and all are finite. Given our global population vs resources in a consumer based false economy of servitude and debt , Don;t you think its time we as a whole of society, start taking responsibility as a whole , to better manage and regulate our global resources, for the benefit of all mankind and our environments for future generations. Since you are a religious person, I would ask you, If you think your god would be happy with what we've done to this , tiny blue marble. A utopia of life.
Reality Speaks

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#648 Feb 7, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> God and religions are not natural, they are man made social beliefs. Of course it is your right of choice to believe in your theory of how it is the Universe came to be .. That is more a philosophic question, than, what is relevant in the here and now. What is a reality for you and I , and the other 7 billion plus people on this planet, is the biosphere and eco systems of our planet.Mankind has become the dominant species on this planet. our piety indifference of religion, race , monetary inequality, and self righteous nationalism , will be of no importance, if we continue on this course of environmental destruction. We all need, fresh water,healthy food, shelter, The resources and the means they come about, are of this planet, and all are finite. Given our global population vs resources in a consumer based false economy of servitude and debt , Don;t you think its time we as a whole of society, start taking responsibility as a whole , to better manage and regulate our global resources, for the benefit of all mankind and our environments for future generations. Since you are a religious person, I would ask you, If you think your god would be happy with what we've done to this , tiny blue marble. A utopia of life.
Obama created Earth in a speech, and Nancy Pelosi farted creating global warming.

Wish Nancy would eat lots of baked beans because it is -2 outside.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#649 Feb 7, 2014
Good answer, RS!

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#650 Feb 7, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> God and religions are not natural, they are man made social beliefs. Of course it is your right of choice to believe in your theory of how it is the Universe came to be .. That is more a philosophic question, than, what is relevant in the here and now. What is a reality for you and I , and the other 7 billion plus people on this planet, is the biosphere and eco systems of our planet.Mankind has become the dominant species on this planet. our piety indifference of religion, race , monetary inequality, and self righteous nationalism , will be of no importance, if we continue on this course of environmental destruction. We all need, fresh water,healthy food, shelter, The resources and the means they come about, are of this planet, and all are finite. Given our global population vs resources in a consumer based false economy of servitude and debt , Don;t you think its time we as a whole of society, start taking responsibility as a whole , to better manage and regulate our global resources, for the benefit of all mankind and our environments for future generations. Since you are a religious person, I would ask you, If you think your god would be happy with what we've done to this , tiny blue marble. A utopia of life.
Still rambling?

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#651 Feb 7, 2014
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Still rambling?
Yes apparently I have stumped the creationist, when asked to give a few facts, of creationism. Aside from that
PINE RIDGE — The Oglala Sioux Tribe’s Health and Human Services committee has passed a resolution reasserting the tribe’s opposition to the Keystone XL Pipeline by passing a resolution barring TransCanada official Phil Fontaine from entering its territory. The Oglala Sioux Tribe has been opposed to the pipeline and has made every effort to make their position clear. Oglala Sioux Tribal President Bryan Brewer told representatives of the U.S. State Department that if the pipeline makes its way towards Lakota Country that,“We are ready to fight the pipeline and our horses are ready.”
The resolution passed in the Health and Human Services committee of the Oglala Sioux Tribe also said that they were greatly opposed to the pipeline by passing the resolution.

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#652 Feb 7, 2014
In the Austin, Texas-based office of global intelligence firm Stratfor, the "Shadow CIA", a curious string of names from BC were being mentioned as part of an oil sands presentation. West Coast Environmental Law. Dogwood Initiative. The presentation was ostensibly for Suncor, although the company denies having ever seen the document despite the company's name being mentioned 11 times.

Dogwood and WCEL were among 24 groups identified by Stratfor as leaders in the anti-tar sands push.

The PowerPoint presentation was prepared by Stratfor in 2010, when North America's oil industry was mulling over how to deal with the growing anti-tar sands movement. It was leaked by WikiLeaks, the same group that published emails from Stratfor last year suggesting that the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline could end up costing $15 billion instead of the proposed $5.5 billion.

Stratfor lays out several engagement options for companies in dealing with them. One option is to simply ignore them, since activists "have no power in Alberta or Ottawa" and have little chance of success with U.S. government.

In the best case scenario, the activists give up and move on to other causes. But in the worst case, the opposition could get out of hand, Stratfor warns.

"Campaign becomes the most significant environmental campaign of the decade as activists on both sides of the border come to view the industry as arrogant. Code of conduct demands strengthen, downstream activism intensifies."

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#653 Feb 7, 2014
Canada is blessed with 3 million lakes, more than any country on earth—and it may soon start manufacturing new ones. The oil sands industry is in the throes of a major expansion, powered by C$20 billion ($19 billion) a year in investments. Companies including Syncrude Canada, Royal Dutch Shell (RDS/A), and ExxonMobil (XOM) affiliate Imperial Oil are running out of room to store the contaminated water that is a byproduct of the process used to turn bitumen—a highly viscous form of petroleum—into diesel and other fuels. By 2022 they will be producing so much of the stuff that a month’s output of wastewater could turn New York’s Central Park into a toxic reservoir 11 feet deep, according to the Pembina Institute, a nonprofit in Calgary that promotes sustainable energy.

To tackle the problem, energy companies have drawn up plans that would transform northern Alberta into the largest man-made lake district on earth. Several have obtained permission from provincial authorities to flood abandoned tar sand mines with a mix of tailings and fresh water. Syncrude began work this summer on Base Mine Lake, which when complete will measure 2,000 acres. It says the reservoir will eventually replicate a natural habitat, complete with fish and waterfowl. As many as 30 so-called end-pit lakes are planned, according to Alberta’s Cumulative Environment Management Association, a private-public partnership.

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#654 Feb 7, 2014
One big concern surrounding end-pit lakes is that the contaminated water will spread through the boreal ecosystem, the tract of trees and marshland that stretches around the top of the world from Canada to Russia and Scandinavia. Boreal forests store almost twice as much carbon as tropical forests. In October communities bordering Canada’s Athabasca River were cautioned not to drink from the waterway after a breach in a coal tailings storage pond dumped 1 billion liters (264 million gallons) of contaminated water into an area west of Edmonton. “We’re playing Russian roulette with a big part of an important ecosystem,” says David Schindler, an ecology professor at the University of Alberta. “Nothing is going to grow in that soup of toxic elements except perhaps a few hydrosulfide bacteria. And all of the unforeseen events are being downplayed.”

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#655 Feb 7, 2014
A study of a dozen of 2012's wildest weather events found that human-caused global warming increased the likelihood of about half of them, including Superstorm Sandy's devastating surge and the blistering U.S. summer heat.

The other half — including a record wet British summer and the U.S. drought last year — simply reflected the random freakiness of weather, researchers with the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the British meteorological office concluded

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#656 Feb 7, 2014
Fossil fuels are non-renewable resources because they take millions of years to form, and reserves are being depleted much faster than new ones are being formed.

All fossil fuels are made of hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons store energy in the form of the atomic bonds. Energy stored in hydrocarbons can be released very easy - we just have to burn them.

When fossil fuels are burned carbon and hydrogen react with oxygen in air to carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). During this reaction heat is released which further amplifies the reaction.

One of the biggest benefits of fossil fuels is their cost. Coal, oil and natural gas are abundant right now and relatively inexpensive to drill or mine for.

At current usage, the coal supply will last 1500 years. However at a 5% growth rate the coal supply will last only 86 years. We can expect even greater usage as other fossil fuels become scarce.

Coal energy yield depends on how much carbon is contained in it. Two types dominate US reserves. Anthracite is 95% carbon and is approximately 300 million years old. Lignite is 25% carbon is nearly 150 million years old.
To run a 100-watt light bulb 24 hours a day for a year we need to use about 714 pounds (325 kg) of coal in coal powered power plant (thermal efficiency of such power plant is typically abut 40%).

Fossil fuels are also overwhelmingly responsible for fueling our transportation system. Petroleum-based fuels are the standard.

One liter of regular gasoline is the time-rendered result of about 23.5 tonnes of ancient organic material deposited on the ocean floor.

The total fossil fuel used in the year 1997 is the result of 422 years of all plant matter that grew on the entire surface and in all the oceans of the ancient earth.

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#657 Feb 7, 2014
Enbridge’s Ontario pipeline plan is part of a larger project, called Trailbreaker, which could eventually transport tar sands oil through some of the most important natural and cultural landscapes in central Canada and New England. It would reverse the direction of oil flowing through two major pipelines—Enbridge’s Line 9 and the Portland/Montreal pipeline.
If powerful oil interests get their way, the pipelines wouldn’t carry normal oil, but tar sands oil—the dirtiest oil on the planet—along an approximately 1,200km route. This route runs east through Ontario and Quebec, then down to the New England seacoast, finally ending in Casco Bay in Portland, Maine for export.
In August 2011, Enbridge asked for permission to reverse the direction of about one quarter of Line 9’s length—from Sarnia, Ontario, to the Westover Oil Terminal, outside of Hamilton–a project they call “Line 9 Reversal Phase I”. When challenged about the full scope of the plan, the company repeatedly insisted that it was a standalone project, not part of a larger scheme to get more tar sands oil to the Atlantic.

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#658 Feb 7, 2014
Fact is we already have 1000s of km of pipeline running throughout North America already. This is the reality of our fossil fuel consumer based monetary system of debt and servitude. This is our freedom, our right, to take what we need, for our own self interest. Regardless of the consequences.As easy as it is to look to the past of mankind, and see what happens when people exhausted and abuse their environments for resources. Most wars have been for resources, Including Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of the up coming wars, will be for fresh water.Luckily, most big game is gone, as well as the 50% of the worlds rain forests, as they consume to much water.

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#659 Feb 7, 2014
The expression "bread and circuses" captures a certain cynical political view that the masses can be kept happy with fast food (think Cartman's "Cheesy Poofs" on South Park) and faster entertainment (NASCAR races, NFL games, and the like). In the Roman Empire, it was bread and chariot races and gladiatorial games that filled the belly and distracted the mind, allowing emperors to rule as they saw fit.
There's truth to the view that people can be kept tractable as long as you fill their bellies and give them violent spectacles to fill their free time.
The reason most totalitarian governments have regular military parades is to inspire constant fear and awe in a populous that, without reminders of the terrible power of the government, might rise to challenge it. However another, much less noisy, way to quiet the masses is to lull them with luxuries. "Bread and circuses," as the Roman poet Juvenal said, using cheap food and trivialities to distract the citizens from the real political and economic questions of the day.
So long, good luck, and thanks for all the fish

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