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#545 Feb 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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The cause of your major depressive disorder is quite plain.
You remain in abject denial of your own faith position.
My friend ,its not my personal problem, nor is it any kind of blind faith..Just basic facts, just how dumbed down has your society become, that you think you live in such a self sufficient bubble. Again, your ignorance is not my loss.
dunadd

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#546 Feb 5, 2014
I agree with post 543!

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#547 Feb 5, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> My friend ,its not my personal problem, nor is it any kind of blind faith..Just basic facts, just how dumbed down has your society become, that you think you live in such a self sufficient bubble. Again, your ignorance is not my loss.
Indeed, you have claimed possession of these "basic facts" ad nauseam.
And continue to fail to present them.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#548 Feb 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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The cause of your major depressive disorder is quite plain.
You remain in abject denial of your own faith position.
Aaahh yes...Tipyhead. Perpetually insulting and living in fear of those with different opinions about the spiritual realm.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#549 Feb 5, 2014
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Did you count the number of times these scientists employed words such as "appeared," "likely," "probably," etc.?
And still...no evidence whatsoever supporting a point of origin for evolution..
Do you understand what the scientific method IS?

Apparently, you don't.

woof

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#550 Feb 5, 2014
The definition
Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. This definition encompasses small-scale evolution (changes in gene frequency in a population from one generation to the next) and large-scale evolution (the descent of different species from a common ancestor over many generations). Evolution helps us to understand the history of life.
The explanation
Biological evolution is not simply a matter of change over time. Lots of things change over time: trees lose their leaves, mountain ranges rise and erode, but they aren't examples of biological evolution because they don't involve descent through genetic inheritance.
The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.
Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.
We very much know the process of life on this planet, do we know everything, is even what we know today correct, the truth is we do not..Science is the tool we use to change our modern society, when new theories come about and proven and tested , we change accordingly.If you want perfection, apologies, that is not possible, perhaps with the technology of Artificial Intelligence, it may be achieved. But there is enough that we do know,to understand, that that on a planet of 7 billion people, with finite resources, and no wal-mart in space, we as a human race cannot continue on this self destructive course.

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#552 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Do you understand what the scientific method IS?
Apparently, you don't.
woof
Indeed.
Let me know when these scientists have tested and proven their hypotheses.

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#553 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Aaahh yes...Tipyhead. Perpetually insulting and living in fear of those with different opinions about the spiritual realm.
woof
Absolutely not.
Reminding Oneear that his faith position regarding the origin of the universe and life stands on equal footing with mine.

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#554 Feb 5, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
The definition
Biological evolution, simply put, is descent with modification. This definition encompasses small-scale evolution (changes in gene frequency in a population from one generation to the next) and large-scale evolution (the descent of different species from a common ancestor over many generations). Evolution helps us to understand the history of life.
The explanation
Biological evolution is not simply a matter of change over time. Lots of things change over time: trees lose their leaves, mountain ranges rise and erode, but they aren't examples of biological evolution because they don't involve descent through genetic inheritance.
The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor, just as you and your cousins share a common grandmother.
Through the process of descent with modification, the common ancestor of life on Earth gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see documented in the fossil record and around us today. Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.
We very much know the process of life on this planet, do we know everything, is even what we know today correct, the truth is we do not..Science is the tool we use to change our modern society, when new theories come about and proven and tested , we change accordingly.If you want perfection, apologies, that is not possible, perhaps with the technology of Artificial Intelligence, it may be achieved. But there is enough that we do know,to understand, that that on a planet of 7 billion people, with finite resources, and no wal-mart in space, we as a human race cannot continue on this self destructive course.
...except that geneticists have NEVER observed new genetic material form by mutations.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#556 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#557 Feb 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Absolutely not.
Reminding Oneear that his faith position regarding the origin of the universe and life stands on equal footing with mine.
No.

You are merely making a fool of yourself.

woof

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#558 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v fkDsokas4c?rel=0
woof
Did the baby human mutate into a puppy?
Didn't think so.

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#559 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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No.
You are merely making a fool of yourself.
woof
See post #556 as a reference for that comment.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#560 Feb 5, 2014
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Absolutely not.
Reminding Oneear that his faith position regarding the origin of the universe and life stands on equal footing with mine.
Read closely Tippy. Perhaps you'll learn the not so subtle differences between the scientific method and religious faith:

http://www.nas.edu/evolution/Compatibility.ht...

"Science and religion are based on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations must be based on evidence drawn from examining the natural world. Scientifically based observations or experiments that conflict with an explanation eventually must lead to modification or even abandonment of that explanation. Religious faith, in contrast, does not depend only on empirical evidence, is not necessarily modified in the face of conflicting evidence, and typically involves supernatural forces or entities. Because they are not a part of nature, supernatural entities cannot be investigated by science. In this sense, science and religion are separate and address aspects of human understanding in different ways. Attempts to pit science and religion against each other create controversy where none needs to exist."

woof

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#561 Feb 5, 2014
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Indeed, you have claimed possession of these "basic facts" ad nauseam.
And continue to fail to present them.
Again, these facts, are not mine , but an accumulation of human knowledge and understanding.You can stay in your bubble, no ones forcing ideals upon you. It is your right to believe what you want, as it is mine.. But we have more common denominators than different.If you can accept the technology and science of the internet and its evolution of communication, why can you not accept the science of the evolution of the worlds ecology. Which is not really relevant to the knowledge of how the Universe came to be.

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#562 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Read closely Tippy. Perhaps you'll learn the not so subtle differences between the scientific method and religious faith:
http://www.nas.edu/evolution/Compatibility.ht...
"Science and religion are based on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations must be based on evidence drawn from examining the natural world. Scientifically based observations or experiments that conflict with an explanation eventually must lead to modification or even abandonment of that explanation. Religious faith, in contrast, does not depend only on empirical evidence, is not necessarily modified in the face of conflicting evidence, and typically involves supernatural forces or entities. Because they are not a part of nature, supernatural entities cannot be investigated by science. In this sense, science and religion are separate and address aspects of human understanding in different ways. Attempts to pit science and religion against each other create controversy where none needs to exist."
woof
In truth there are only two kinds of people: those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don't know it.

-- G.K. Chesterton
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#563 Feb 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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Did you count the number of times these scientists employed words such as "appeared," "likely," "probably," etc.?
And still...no evidence whatsoever supporting a point of origin for evolution..
Scientists look at observable data and either predict future outcomes, or hypothesize about causes/relationships within those data sets.

It is the very nature of science to prove or disprove hypotheses.

When you show me empirical evidence that suggests the planet is merely 6000 years old I will start taking your viewpoints seriously.

woof

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#564 Feb 5, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Read closely Tippy. Perhaps you'll learn the not so subtle differences between the scientific method and religious faith:
http://www.nas.edu/evolution/Compatibility.ht...
"Science and religion are based on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations must be based on evidence drawn from examining the natural world. Scientifically based observations or experiments that conflict with an explanation eventually must lead to modification or even abandonment of that explanation. Religious faith, in contrast, does not depend only on empirical evidence, is not necessarily modified in the face of conflicting evidence, and typically involves supernatural forces or entities. Because they are not a part of nature, supernatural entities cannot be investigated by science. In this sense, science and religion are separate and address aspects of human understanding in different ways. Attempts to pit science and religion against each other create controversy where none needs to exist."
woof
This is not a debate between scientific method and religious faith.

To repeat, there exists no absolute empirical proof for either evolution or creation.
Therefore, belief in either is a matter of faith.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#565 Feb 5, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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In truth there are only two kinds of people: those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don't know it.
-- G.K. Chesterton
Well I've never met Mr. Chesterton, and since he's now deceased, he and I will never have a conversation about my beliefs.

woof

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#566 Feb 5, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> Again, these facts, are not mine , but an accumulation of human knowledge and understanding.You can stay in your bubble, no ones forcing ideals upon you. It is your right to believe what you want, as it is mine.. But we have more common denominators than different.If you can accept the technology and science of the internet and its evolution of communication, why can you not accept the science of the evolution of the worlds ecology. Which is not really relevant to the knowledge of how the Universe came to be.
Take it from a fellow Canuck:

The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. This is already evident in the reckless statements of Haeckel and in the shifty, devious and histrionic argumentation of T. H. Huxley...To establish the continuity required by the theory, historical arguments are invoked even though historical evidence is lacking. Thus are engendered those fragile towers of hypotheses based on hypotheses, where fact and fiction intermingle in an inextricable confusion.

-- W.R. Thompson, former Director of the Commonwealth Institute of Biological Control, Ottawa, Canada

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