Keystone opponents vow civil disobedi...
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#21 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
sorry I forgot to add.....
Huffington post??????? LMFAO
Keep your head buried firmly in the tar sands, pizza face.

http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/kxlsecurity....

woof

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#22 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes Pizza Face, the oil companies are chomping at the bit to get that oil down to the gulf so they can sell it locally rather than export it at higher prices.
Do some reading dude.
woof
Pleasssseee Dukie.

Read my posts and try to keep up.

Economics 101.... supply vs demand..........

sigh

WOLF

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#23 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep your head buried firmly in the tar sands, pizza face.
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/kxlsecurity....
woof
I guess I need to point you to the state of North Dakota unemployment rate of 2.7%.
I know you are wondering why huh.......

https://www.google.com/search...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/...

But yet again......

Economics 101 supply vs demand........Pleeaassee look it up.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#24 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess I need to point you to the state of North Dakota unemployment rate of 2.7%.
I know you are wondering why huh.......
https://www.google.com/search...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/...
But yet again......
Economics 101 supply vs demand........Pleeaassee look it up.
And that has what to do with the Canadian tar sands oil?

Do tell.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#25 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
Pleasssseee Dukie.
Read my posts and try to keep up.
Economics 101.... supply vs demand..........
sigh
WOLF
Yes Pizza Man. Supply and demand.

But how does one manipulate that relationship?

woof

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#26 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting idea RS........I would be for it if it was an advantage to the US.
I would have to defer to spook on this one but, I would guess that more than one refinery would be needed.
Your idea might also have the added benefit of keeping more refined product in the US and reducing fuel prices.
Again I would ask spook.
Of course, if you checked out the link I sent you there is the problem of being allowed to build the actual refineries.......
The Keystone pipeline would however create jobs during construction and afterwards during operation.
The Keystone pipeline would lower American dependency on foreign oil.
I can't see it as anything but a win/win. When a construction worker puts a shovel in the ground 10 to 20 jobs are created upwards.

When Romney was pushing this he proposed building 5 new refineries. More contruction jobs and permanent jobs. The refinery here in DE has a yearly 'turn-around' maintenance and 600 to 800 union tradesmen are hired on for that. The refinery itself employs 600 to 1000 at any given time, and all of that supports the surrounding businesses, home sales, etc.

The cost of fuel has got to go down. It's a major burden on the economy. North America being energy independent would be huge. Build a wall around Israel and let the rest of the mid-east annihilate eachother.

But, I'll defer to Spookerini.

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#27 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it is going to be exported, you dunce.
woof
Really? We're going to import Canadian oil to then export it?
You're not too bright, are you?

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#28 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Not gonna happen.
Plenty of refinery capacity on the east coast. Big oil intends to maximize profits, not reduce prices.
woof
You're embarrassing yourself again, Douchie:
Delta Buys Refinery to Get Control of Fuel Costs
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/01/business/de...

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#29 Feb 2, 2014
Just think about this though.......
The prices are so high for everything in this country because of greed....what makes anyone think that just because it's produced here, it will be cheaper?
They will rip us off, business as usual in the USA!
Sorry, but that's my opinion!
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#30 Feb 2, 2014
Seriouslady wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't see it as anything but a win/win. When a construction worker puts a shovel in the ground 10 to 20 jobs are created upwards.
When Romney was pushing this he proposed building 5 new refineries. More contruction jobs and permanent jobs. The refinery here in DE has a yearly 'turn-around' maintenance and 600 to 800 union tradesmen are hired on for that. The refinery itself employs 600 to 1000 at any given time, and all of that supports the surrounding businesses, home sales, etc.
The cost of fuel has got to go down. It's a major burden on the economy. North America being energy independent would be huge. Build a wall around Israel and let the rest of the mid-east annihilate eachother.
But, I'll defer to Spookerini.
Why would companies like BP and Valero wish to flood the US market with oil or expand their domestic refining capacity when they can maximize their profits by exporting?

You people have your heads in the sand.

woof

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#31 Feb 2, 2014
Canadian Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver said this week that the United States still will need foreign oil in the coming decades, and it is better if it comes from an ally. The 1,700-mile Keystone pipeline would go from the Alberta oil sands in Canada to the U.S. refineries on the Gulf Coast.

Oliver said the oil would be used in America and that Keystone is not an export pipeline.

The American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers trade group responded that export figures are being misused. Charles Drevna, president of the group, said the figures are nowhere near 60 percent when all gasoline produced to blend with ethanol is accounted.

Drevna asserted that the real Gulf Coast refinery export figures are only “probably around 11 or 12 percent.” That figure will remain the same after Keystone is built, he said.

Keystone is not for exports, he said.“Anyone who believes that either has to understand this industry better or they are just trying to mislead the public and Congress,” he said.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/04/25/189680/...

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#32 Feb 2, 2014
Ohio is getting all the residue chemicals from PA fracking and my question is why, spook! why ?
Isn't this endangering our soil?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#33 Feb 2, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>You're embarrassing yourself again, Douchie:
Delta Buys Refinery to Get Control of Fuel Costs
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/01/business/de...
Hate to break this to you Paco, but that story doesn't rebut my argument. It supports it.

woof

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#34 Feb 2, 2014
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
<quoted text>
Less dangerous than Warren "dried turds in eyebrow " Buffets train that is used now.
Lmao

I think we need you to splain this spook!
I know producing here will be cheaper but the price to consumers is always fixed for profit to companies.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#35 Feb 2, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Really? We're going to import Canadian oil to then export it?
You're not too bright, are you?
That is exactly what is going to occur.

http://www.policyinnovations.org/ideas/policy...

http://www.kotanow.com/story/15387147/xl-pipe...

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/...

woof

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#36 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes Pizza Man. Supply and demand.
But how does one manipulate that relationship?
woof
dukie.boy....

You can't manipulate that relationship.........
see capitalism.....I know that is a foreign concept to ya........

WOLF

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#37 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Hate to break this to you Paco, but that story doesn't rebut my argument. It supports it.
woof
Really? Delta bought an old refinery in need of major restoration work to assure itself of a steady supply of lower cost fuel. Now, if there really was "plenty of refining capacity on the East Coast," why would an airline take such a drastic step?
Pizzaman has you pegged on your economic illiteracy.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#38 Feb 2, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
Canadian Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver said this week that the United States still will need foreign oil in the coming decades, and it is better if it comes from an ally. The 1,700-mile Keystone pipeline would go from the Alberta oil sands in Canada to the U.S. refineries on the Gulf Coast.
Oliver said the oil would be used in America and that Keystone is not an export pipeline.
The American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers trade group responded that export figures are being misused. Charles Drevna, president of the group, said the figures are nowhere near 60 percent when all gasoline produced to blend with ethanol is accounted.
Drevna asserted that the real Gulf Coast refinery export figures are only “probably around 11 or 12 percent.” That figure will remain the same after Keystone is built, he said.
Keystone is not for exports, he said.“Anyone who believes that either has to understand this industry better or they are just trying to mislead the public and Congress,” he said.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/04/25/189680/...
hmmm...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/refiners...

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/20...

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#39 Feb 2, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Delta bought an old refinery in need of major restoration work to assure itself of a steady supply of lower cost fuel. Now, if there really was "plenty of refining capacity on the East Coast," why would an airline take such a drastic step?
Pizzaman has you pegged on your economic illiteracy.
If there were not enough refining capacity to serve the US market, that refinery would not have been shuttered. Delta is cutting out the middle man.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#40 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
dukie.boy....
You can't manipulate that relationship.........
see capitalism.....I know that is a foreign concept to ya........
WOLF
No Pizza Boy, I guess oil companies would NEVER manipulate the supply side of that relationship, would they?

woof

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Columbus Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Dems Progress To A New Low 1 min d pants 195
President Trump Rally 2017 Florida 3 min anonymous 27
News Mixed results on school, ballot issues (Nov '12) 27 min Pam 7
News Dublin lawyer charged in federal pill-mill case (Jan '13) 51 min Chad 9
News Dublin man accused in Internet sex sting (May '13) 53 min Chad 4
News Obetz to carve out an ice rink (Nov '12) 56 min Chad 21
News Dublin man faces child-porn charge (Mar '14) 57 min Chad 2
Donald Trump didn't win because he's Donald Trump 1 hr jonjedi 198

Columbus Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Columbus Mortgages