Keystone opponents vow civil disobedi...

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#302 Feb 3, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Perhaps you should try ICE, since those other folks are pretty powerless to do anything about the problem.
LOL

Humor eh......funny stuff........
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#303 Feb 3, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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LOL
Humor eh......funny stuff........
That's why you don't learn.

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#304 Feb 3, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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That's why you don't learn.
yawn......
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#305 Feb 3, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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yawn......
That too.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#306 Feb 3, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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That is not entirely true.
If it were, fuel oil would be the same price in Maine as it is in Texas. There is a reason XL is being built, and it isn't to serve the American market.
woof
The price change due to demand is not the same as the price change due to transportation costs. Maine will always have those transportation costs (unless someone builds a refinery nearby), but their price STILL goes up and down due to supply and demand. It doesn't have to be the same price as Texas' to respond to market forces. I'm frankly amazed at anyone over the age of 10 who cannot understand this.

When the XL is complete, there will be more oil on the market. This will drive down prices, regardless of where that particular oil is consumed.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#307 Feb 3, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You are not very bright are you?
Tony says a glut anywhere on the planet reduces prices...anywhere.
I said that's not true.
woof
I was also talking about oil, which is transported all over the world. With gas, the glut will affect prices anywhere it can be transported, which pretty much limits it to the continent. While gas might still be more expensive in Maine due to transportation costs, a glut in any place connected by pipe to where the Maine gas truck driver gets his load will see a reduction in price. I guarantee it.

Oh, and here's an interesting map for you.

http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/an...

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#308 Feb 3, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Thank you for your non sequitur.
That oil is going to Europe, not to your gas tank.
woof
When are you going to get it through your thick head that it doesn't matter where that particular oil goes?

If you were any more dense, light couldn't escape you.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#309 Feb 3, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
Want to see where Maine's heating oil is refined?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Oil_Refin...
Want to see the source for some of the crude for that refinery?
A train carrying 104 tank cars of crude from the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota came through Maine last weekend on a 2,435-mile journey to the Irving Oil refinery in Saint John, New Brunswick. It rolled through Portland, Waterville and Bangor on Pan Am Railways tracks, on its way to Canada’s largest oil refinery.
http://www.pressherald.com/business/Western-c...
Have you priced fuel oil in Maine, or Ohio lately?

woof
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#310 Feb 3, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I am amazed at how close you pay attention to personal details. If only you could apply those skills in other endeavors...
woof
Ummmm....Tip? He's asking something of you. Something about attention to personal details and endeavors?

“With Attitude”

Since: Jan 12

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#311 Feb 3, 2014
The Keystone pipeline already has been built from Canada to the Gulf. The Keystone XL is just phase 4 of it.
wiseAfricanAmeri can

Columbus, OH

#312 Feb 4, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
a new refinery where the oil is now, makes much more sense.
why pump it to opposite side of the country?
The crude will be pipelined down to the gulf and eventually off- shored on tankers, to a refinery in the gulf, and sold on the open market as all petroleum is,regardless of the country. After the dust settles, who's going to be in a position to reap huge profits from the deal? How will that petroleum help reduce OUR prices if it's sold on the open market?

I've yet to hear any Republican politicians promises that the petroleum will PRIMARILY be used for US consumption and price reduction!

Once the construction of the pipeline is over, all those thousands of jobs will vanish with it, and only the maintenance jobs on the pipeline will remain.

It's another short- term economic stimulus, no different from what Barry O has done!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#313 Feb 4, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Have you priced fuel oil in Maine, or Ohio lately?
woof
and fuel is up in price because our dollar is devalued.

if you had a car, you would have noticed too.

yesterday Diesel was at highest cost in 2 years. I know because I filled up.

Premium gas also up, again I know because I filled up yesterday.
wiseAfricanAmeri can

Columbus, OH

#314 Feb 4, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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The price change due to demand is not the same as the price change due to transportation costs. Maine will always have those transportation costs (unless someone builds a refinery nearby), but their price STILL goes up and down due to supply and demand. It doesn't have to be the same price as Texas' to respond to market forces. I'm frankly amazed at anyone over the age of 10 who cannot understand this.
When the XL is complete, there will be more oil on the market. This will drive down prices, regardless of where that particular oil is consumed.
Right now our oil production is higher than at any other administration. Look at the prices we're still paying as compared to the early to mid 2001-2005. We should be paying at least $1.50-2.00 per gallon given the huge amount of production, including the cost of production, taxes, and transportation of the petroleum!
wiseAfricanAmeri can

Columbus, OH

#315 Feb 4, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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I was also talking about oil, which is transported all over the world. With gas, the glut will affect prices anywhere it can be transported, which pretty much limits it to the continent. While gas might still be more expensive in Maine due to transportation costs, a glut in any place connected by pipe to where the Maine gas truck driver gets his load will see a reduction in price. I guarantee it.
Oh, and here's an interesting map for you.
http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/an...
I'm glad you posted that map Tony, I noticed the thick conglomerate blue interstate transportation lines pass heavily through the State of Ohio...our State, yet our gasoline prices are staying around the $3.00 -$3.80 price. Do you remember the slogan, "OHIO...THE HEART OF IT ALL" ? Nothing reaches the North east or east coast unless it passes through Ohio! With that being said, our politicians are in a good position to bargain lower liquid gas prices for Ohio consumers as a TAX BREAK initiative for the businesses, trucking companies, and residents of Ohio. Could you imagine how many businesses would want to move here!

We need profound thinkers in the decision making process in government like me, WAA...a fresh and new prolific mind for the foreseeable future!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#316 Feb 4, 2014
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> Right now our oil production is higher than at any other administration. Look at the prices we're still paying as compared to the early to mid 2001-2005. We should be paying at least $1.50-2.00 per gallon given the huge amount of production, including the cost of production, taxes, and transportation of the petroleum!
it is because our dollar is de-valued. Plain and simple.

when you run up 17 trillion in debt with no plan to ever pay it back, people who sell oil don't want our monopoly money without a large discount anymore.

reality is that you have been duped again, and your bulb is not bright enough to see.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#317 Feb 4, 2014
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> I'm glad you posted that map Tony, I noticed the thick conglomerate blue interstate transportation lines pass heavily through the State of Ohio...our State, yet our gasoline prices are staying around the $3.00 -$3.80 price. Do you remember the slogan, "OHIO...THE HEART OF IT ALL" ? Nothing reaches the North east or east coast unless it passes through Ohio! With that being said, our politicians are in a good position to bargain lower liquid gas prices for Ohio consumers as a TAX BREAK initiative for the businesses, trucking companies, and residents of Ohio. Could you imagine how many businesses would want to move here!
We need profound thinkers in the decision making process in government like me, WAA...a fresh and new prolific mind for the foreseeable future!
our dollar does not buy what it used to.

we have devalued it on purpose, and hell bent on further erosion.

just 4 years ago Ohio was ranked in bottom 10 of our 50 states for business friendly.......what did you expect?

do some homework, you will be enlightened.
wiseAfricanAmeri can

Columbus, OH

#318 Feb 4, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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and fuel is up in price because our dollar is devalued.
if you had a car, you would have noticed too.
yesterday Diesel was at highest cost in 2 years. I know because I filled up.
Premium gas also up, again I know because I filled up yesterday.
January 1934 devaluation of the dollar and the subsequent result on Bank Reserves in the Federal Reserve System.

As you will recall, the Gold Act, or more properly Executive Order 6102 of April 5, 1933, required Americans to surrender their gold coinage and certificates to the Federal Reserve Banks by May 1, 1933. There were no prosecutions for non-compliance except one benchmark case which was brought voluntarily by a person who wished to challenge the act in court.
After a substantial portion of the gold was turned in by US citizens and taken from their bank based safe deposit boxes, the government officially devalued the dollar from 20.67 to 35.00 per ounce in the Gold Reserve Act of January 31, 1934.

The proceeds from this devaluation were used to provide a significant boost to the Federal Reserve member bank positions as shown in the first chart below.

The inflation visited on the American people because of this action helped to take the CPI as it was then measured up 1200 basis points from about -8% to +4% by the end of 1933. To somewhat offset the monetary inflation the Fed also contracted the Monetary Base which served the nascent recovery in the real economy rather poorly and is viewed widely as one of a series of policy errors.

Now, we know where the problem started, but we don't know WHY our government allowed a private Zionist banking cabal take over our sovereign monetary system?
As for all you Jew loving hick evangelical Christians, who likes to hold the peckers of Zionist bankers while they take a whiz, tell us WHY we allowed a foreign entity to choke- hold our currency (gold) for pieces of worthless paper??????

I bet you believe it's the will of Jesus for you to surrender your sovereignty to a people who don't even believe in Him!

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#319 Feb 4, 2014
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> Right now our oil production is higher than at any other administration. Look at the prices we're still paying as compared to the early to mid 2001-2005. We should be paying at least $1.50-2.00 per gallon given the huge amount of production, including the cost of production, taxes, and transportation of the petroleum!
Production is rising, but it's not "higher than at any other administration"

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler....

What is important to remember about prices, is that demand from China, India and other 3rd World countries is much higher than it was even 5 years ago. Let alone 30. That's why gas is so expensive.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#320 Feb 4, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Production is rising, but it's not "higher than at any other administration"
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler....
What is important to remember about prices, is that demand from China, India and other 3rd World countries is much higher than it was even 5 years ago. Let alone 30. That's why gas is so expensive.
and the dollar devalued 14% in 2013 alone.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#321 Feb 4, 2014
wiseAfricanAmerican wrote:
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As for all you Jew loving hick evangelical Christians, who likes to hold the peckers of Zionist bankers while they take a whiz, tell us WHY we allowed a foreign entity to choke- hold our currency (gold) for pieces of worthless paper??????
I bet you believe it's the will of Jesus for you to surrender your sovereignty to a people who don't even believe in Him!
Run, run, the Zionists are gonna kill us all!!!!!

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