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“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#181 Feb 2, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> apparently , you did not understand my comment, to the racial slur given about immigration. Who is any American to say, who can, or who cannot come to this country, when yous are all immigrants. Given the early history of America, I would say just about anyone who can come to the US and contribute to society should be a part of it.Because I do not recall any early Europeans asking to come here, or asking to take the land for their own use.
Pushing white guilt doesn't work here.

This country isn't a blank slate, it is the specific product of a specific people and culture.

People that didn't come from the Third World.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#182 Feb 2, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
The eeevil oil companies are at it again, eh?
Get out of Michael Moore's arse folds.
The pipeline increases supply, it crosses an area already traversed by numerous pipelines.
The enviros and socialists like you oppose it simply because you want to increase the price of gas, to make lousy green energy failures more competitive.
I don't oppose it Karl, so long as the majority of the oil ends up on the American market.

That's not what is going to happen.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#183 Feb 2, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
Pushing white guilt doesn't work here.
This country isn't a blank slate, it is the specific product of a specific people and culture.
People that didn't come from the Third World.
Hilarious.

woof

“Hillary 4 prison 2016”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#184 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Point it out for me.
That pipeline has been promoted by those building it as being necessary to reduce America's dependence upon foreign imported oil, and being a way to reduce gasoline prices domestically.
That is isn't going to happen.
Tell me where I'm wrong.
woof
I've tried doggie boy...

You continue to fail to understand the global market and more supply than demand.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_deman...

“animis opibusque parati”

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#185 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Point it out for me.
That pipeline has been promoted by those building it as being necessary to reduce America's dependence upon foreign imported oil, and being a way to reduce gasoline prices domestically.
That is isn't going to happen.
Tell me where I'm wrong.
woof
You've already declared the outcome for yourself, dumbarse, in spite of the logic and evidence available to you.

It's what hysterical lemmings do.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#186 Feb 2, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> Come on man, are you telling me , you have no understanding of the early history of America..It was disease and the slaughtering of thousands of innocent children.,woman, and men by British,French, Spanish and American military.For the theft of land and resource.
Much of that time was pre "Germ Theory", YT bears no guilt for disease.

Native brutality was just as bad as European brutality, if not worse given the Native tendency for torture.

And if displacing was wrong then, it isn't any better now, despite whatever Cultural Marxist crap you say.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#187 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't oppose it Karl, so long as the majority of the oil ends up on the American market.
That's not what is going to happen.
woof
What you describe is Trudeau's NEP.

Which was also known as a miserable failure.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#188 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Hilarious.
woof
Have you nothing to respond to the points I raised?

Please Duke, being the labor union shill you are, yet you favor the massive wrecking of the working class via Third World invasion?

I get you want permanent socialist rule, so you can punish the eeevil white Christian conservative males.

But we already had that, it was called the USSR, 1922-1991

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#189 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I am in the construction / manufacturing biz....I am part of the original immigrants from Asia, tracing my roots to before the newer immigrants. I am perfectly happy with the way things turned out.
I love my country........
ILLEGAL immigration is driving down wages and creating an unfair advantage for contractors who hire them.
As an employer who hires only American citizens, I find myself underbid regularly by folks hiring illegals for a substandard wage.....
Frankly, if you are indeed involved in the trade you claim, I can't imagine you have not been impacted......
hablo espaņol yet??????
Yes, but who is it hiring these apparent illegals, who is taking advantage of the system. If blame is what your looking for, than why blame those who , have nothing, no rights, no money. The majority of these so called illegals, are here to make a better life for themselves, a better chance of opportunity, if not for themselves, but their children.Because as bad as we think it is here, there are far worse off places. They are no different than the working class of this country. And its not just construction, agriculture,the slaughter houses,textile industry.All use illegal labor,to cut cost ,and make better profit. Outsourcing,and labor agencies is now the big thing where I live.Most of the manufacturing is gone,agriculture is industrialized, and the unions have all disappeared. The average wage is 10-15$ an hr , no benefits, and you are always part time, never full time.Therefore no benefits.They will hire you for 3 months, lay you off a couple weeks and hire you back. There are no more workers rights, not in the working class level.It is the greed of capitalism that is destroying the working class, not immigration, as the propaganda would have you believe.

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#190 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaaah Pizza face, it IS relevant.
The cheap gas heating my house isn't coming from North Dakota.
That Canadian oil won't reach my gas tank either.
woof
For the love of Pete, please STOP.
Your ignorance of the subject matter is astounding.

You're already fueling up, courtesy of Canada.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#191 Feb 2, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I've tried doggie boy...
You continue to fail to understand the global market and more supply than demand.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_deman...
No Pizza face, I understand it just fine.

That Canadian oil is going to go overseas, with no tax revenues to the US.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_...

woof

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#192 Feb 2, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, but who is it hiring these apparent illegals, who is taking advantage of the system. If blame is what your looking for, than why blame those who , have nothing, no rights, no money. The majority of these so called illegals, are here to make a better life for themselves, a better chance of opportunity, if not for themselves, but their children.Because as bad as we think it is here, there are far worse off places. They are no different than the working class of this country. And its not just construction, agriculture,the slaughter houses,textile industry.All use illegal labor,to cut cost ,and make better profit. Outsourcing,and labor agencies is now the big thing where I live.Most of the manufacturing is gone,agriculture is industrialized, and the unions have all disappeared. The average wage is 10-15$ an hr , no benefits, and you are always part time, never full time.Therefore no benefits.They will hire you for 3 months, lay you off a couple weeks and hire you back. There are no more workers rights, not in the working class level.It is the greed of capitalism that is destroying the working class, not immigration, as the propaganda would have you believe.
I am no fan of the Chamber of Commerce shills that whip Boehner around like a puppet. But I don't hold the illegals and their home governments blameless. They have no respect for our laws, culture and history.

Capitalism brought billions out of poverty. Some more capitalism in Mexico, instead of crony socialism, would produce prosperity to reverse the immigration flow.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#193 Feb 2, 2014
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
What you describe is Trudeau's NEP.
Which was also known as a miserable failure.
That misstates the facts Karl.

woof

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#194 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
No Pizza face, I understand it just fine.
That Canadian oil is going to go overseas, with no tax revenues to the US.
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_...
woof
Which increases the global supply, reducing prices.

We should be building even more pipelines, like this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_gas_pipel...

Wonder why we can't move anything, perhaps revenge at the project's biggest supporter...

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#195 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
No Pizza face, I understand it just fine.
That Canadian oil is going to go overseas, with no tax revenues to the US.
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_...
woof
No, Duke. We understand it just fine.
You have no understanding of global markets.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#196 Feb 2, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
For the love of Pete, please STOP.
Your ignorance of the subject matter is astounding.
You're already fueling up, courtesy of Canada.
yes... and? What does that have to do with the fact that the oil flowing through XL to Port Arthur will be passed on to markets other than the US?

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a...

woof

“Hillary 4 prison 2016”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#197 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaaah Pizza face, it IS relevant.
The cheap gas heating my house isn't coming from North Dakota.
That Canadian oil won't reach my gas tank either.
woof
errr dukie dog.....just where did I claim your home heating natural gas originated from North Dakota?

Of course North Dakota natural gas supply is driving down the price of natural gas.
It's that supply vs demand thing you just can't comprehend......

The Keystone pipe line does not exist so I have no idea why you would think refined petroleum from it would be in your gas tank.......

really dude...try to keep up OK.......

WOLF

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#198 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
That misstates the facts Karl.
woof
The basics of the NEP were to have Canadian oil consumed in Canada at a subsidized price, even though exporting would be more competitive in terms of tax revenue.

What you propose is that oil produced/refined here, should not be exported. In effect, subsidizing lower prices here, even though again exporting would be more competitive.

Which is before considering that you have Hugo Chavez's views on the rest of energy policy...

“Hillary 4 prison 2016”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#199 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
No Pizza face, I understand it just fine.
That Canadian oil is going to go overseas, with no tax revenues to the US.
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_...
woof
Again..... I have never disputed the final destination of the oil....

Your on going Non Sequitur is FN hilarious however.........

Keep trying.......

WOLF

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#200 Feb 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
yes... and? What does that have to do with the fact that the oil flowing through XL to Port Arthur will be passed on to markets other than the US?
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a...
woof
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