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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>I gave an ultimatum that stated, "Get sober or don't live here." I also specifically said to her that I would not divorce her.
Your atheism is wavering, dear...otherwise how do I have anything to answer for to a god who you say doesn't exist?
It's all so ironic.
When atheists are backed against the wall with their relativism, they ultimately appeal to the Final Authority.

"Well, Jesus said no divorce..."
"Well, Jesus said feed the poor..."
"Well, Jesus said ----[fill in the blank]..."

Even they understand academically what they reject spiritually.

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-tip- wrote:
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It's all so ironic.
When atheists are backed against the wall with their relativism, they ultimately appeal to the Final Authority.
"Well, Jesus said no divorce..."
"Well, Jesus said feed the poor..."
"Well, Jesus said ----[fill in the blank]..."
Even they understand academically what they reject spiritually.
Wait until they're on their deathbeds...

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>Wait until they're on their deathbeds...
B I N G O !

Lol

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>I gave an ultimatum that stated, "Get sober or don't live here." I also specifically said to her that I would not divorce her.
Your atheism is wavering, dear...otherwise how do I have anything to answer for to a god who you say doesn't exist?
Doesn't matter what I believe, it matters what YOU believe. And you believe that god gave the law that said one man, one woman for life. Whatever your ultimatum, an ultimatum was given. You essentially turned your back on her saying YOU get sober, not let US find a way to find your way back to sobriety. Turning your back or alienating a spouse is a big no-no in your religion. So, while you didn't seek a formal divorce, you left your wife behind and withdrew your support of her and your promise to stick by her through thick and thin.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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-tip- wrote:
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It's all so ironic.
When atheists are backed against the wall with their relativism, they ultimately appeal to the Final Authority.
"Well, Jesus said no divorce..."
"Well, Jesus said feed the poor..."
"Well, Jesus said ----[fill in the blank]..."
Even they understand academically what they reject spiritually.
Spirituality and Christianity are not mutually inclusive or exclusive. One can be spiritual and moral without religion. It happens every day. There are atheists who feel strongly about divorce, feeding the poor and whatever else you're babbling on about. There are even atheists who are against the option of abortion. These people can feel a spiritual connection to life, nature, etc. Believing in a higher power does not exclude the ability to feel spiritual. Believing something to be sacred can come without god.

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>Wait until they're on their deathbeds...
Someone who believes only out of fear of what might happen isn't a true believer, are they? I live knowing life could be over for me tomorrow due to an accident, but I don't fall to my knees and force myself to believe what does not appeal to my logically. And even if I did because I'm afraid of some version of "hell," my knee-falling would be for the benefit of myself, not the benefit of loving and worshiping a god that, according to the bible, wants me to love, fear and worship him unconditionally.

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BizzyBee wrote:
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B I N G O !
Lol
Not so much. Even many former atheists have said they might believe in a higher power, but usually do not embrace the church, the bible, or even the fact that any higher being that may exist is defined by the bible or Christians. There are many, many, many religions in the world and many religions that pre-date Christianity. You'd be hard-pressed to convince most atheists who have done their homework that out of all these religions, only one is true.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Doesn't matter what I believe, it matters what YOU believe. And you believe that god gave the law that said one man, one woman for life. Whatever your ultimatum, an ultimatum was given. You essentially turned your back on her saying YOU get sober, not let US find a way to find your way back to sobriety. Turning your back or alienating a spouse is a big no-no in your religion. So, while you didn't seek a formal divorce, you left your wife behind and withdrew your support of her and your promise to stick by her through thick and thin.
You are truly embarrassing yourself, Muff. No wonder no man will have you.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Spirituality and Christianity are not mutually inclusive or exclusive. One can be spiritual and moral without religion. It happens every day. There are atheists who feel strongly about divorce, feeding the poor and whatever else you're babbling on about. There are even atheists who are against the option of abortion. These people can feel a spiritual connection to life, nature, etc. Believing in a higher power does not exclude the ability to feel spiritual. Believing something to be sacred can come without god.
Dizzy?

Morality cannot exist without an absolute standard.
Atheists reject absolute truth.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Not so much. Even many former atheists have said they might believe in a higher power, but usually do not embrace the church, the bible, or even the fact that any higher being that may exist is defined by the bible or Christians. There are many, many, many religions in the world and many religions that pre-date Christianity. You'd be hard-pressed to convince most atheists who have done their homework that out of all these religions, only one is true.
No one knows what mental state they will be on their deathbed.....usually it is a plea to God to help them...
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May I make a suggestion?
Why don't you just move on.......enough is enough already

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>You are truly embarrassing yourself, Muff. No wonder no man will have you.
Not really. At least I'm not a hypocrite. And who says I'm single? lol Talk about embarrassing yourself.

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Dizzy?
Morality cannot exist without an absolute standard.
Atheists reject absolute truth.
You shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about. Unless you are an atheist, you can't define what I believe or don't believe and what I adhere to or don't. Morality can and does exist without the religion.

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>You are truly embarrassing yourself, Muff. No wonder no man will have you.
Stop obsessing over my (lack) of sex life and my inevitable spinsterhood.

What is it with you Muslims and sex?

/sarc/muff

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BizzyBee wrote:
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No one knows what mental state they will be on their deathbed.....usually it is a plea to God to help them...
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May I make a suggestion?
Why don't you just move on.......enough is enough already
This is what this board exists for - discussions. You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

No one may know their mental state on their deathbed, but I know myself and I know my mind. I've been in car accidents and not in those moments right before did I change my beliefs.
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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Catholicism isn't the only Christian religion. I'm speaking on all Abrahamic religions.
Where you involved in Christianity at one point in your life but became disillusioned and "lost" your faith?

Why do you attack the Bible but state you would be willing to follow the Koran insofar as wearing a burka or hijab if you had accompanied your then boyfriend to the Middle East?

You seem so inconsistent.

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Not really. At least I'm not a hypocrite. And who says I'm single? lol Talk about embarrassing yourself.
You're single. We know.
But by all means, continue your meltdown here.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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You shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about. Unless you are an atheist, you can't define what I believe or don't believe and what I adhere to or don't.
Yet you do exactly that regarding Christians and Christianity. What.A.Hypocrite.
This is too easy, folks.

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Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Where you involved in Christianity at one point in your life but became disillusioned and "lost" your faith?
Why do you attack the Bible but state you would be willing to follow the Koran insofar as wearing a burka or hijab if you had accompanied your then boyfriend to the Middle East?
You seem so inconsistent.
I've said for a while that many leftists wish they were Muslim, and probably for that matter black. They've internalized the "other" narrative of the "noble people of color" along with "the evil white Christian man" represented by us.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Morality can and does exist without the religion.
You keep saying that word "morality", I don't think you know what it means.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
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You shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about. Unless you are an atheist, you can't define what I believe or don't believe and what I adhere to or don't. Morality can and does exist without the religion.
Morality cannot exist absent an objective standard.

Again, I offer you this concrete example of your atheistic relativism in action:

-- You believe a woman has the right to kill her baby in utero because the woman's life has more value than that of her child.

-- I believe that abortion is a moral wrong because all human life has equal value.

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