Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#1343 Sep 23, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Ah, so you're saying these quotations from the bible aren't relevant. Interesting.
The Queen b!tch of deflection strikes again.
Enzyte Bob

Whittier, CA

#1344 Sep 23, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Ah, so you're saying these quotations from the bible aren't relevant. Interesting.
What is relevant is that you are a skank and I wouldn't touch anything you've touched before it is washed down with a bleach solution.
Enzyte Bob

Whittier, CA

#1345 Sep 23, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Ah, so you're saying these quotations from the bible aren't relevant. Interesting.
I already gave you the Catholic interpretation, skank. And as a Catholic I am indeed allowed to judge for my own purposes. I just do not have the ability to render ultimate judgment since I am not God and I do not have those powers. But if I did, you secular filth would be pretty easy for me.
Enzyte Bob

Whittier, CA

#1346 Sep 23, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Because your behavior says otherwise. Anyone can be baptized, take communion and attend church. That doesn't make them anything. It's what's in your heart and soul that makes you a Christian and you clearly do not have those factors.
What's in my heart and soul is to lead a good life and to keep the trash like you away from me. The bible says I can and should do that.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1347 Sep 23, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I used to laugh at people who listened to Catholic Radio, but find myself listening to it more and more these days. I also used to listen to Dave Ramsey on occasion who intersperses Biblical wisdom with financial advice. It simply amazes me how much wisdom the Bible has, even applicable to everyday issues like personal finances.
Like I said in another post, I come from an ethnic family from Europe. Not holy rollers by any means, but this stuff was important enough to them that they lead their lives mostly consistent with religion. I look around me in the extended family and what do I see? Very little American dysfunction. Few divorces, baby mommas, baby daddies ... all the kids graduated college, the grandkids did so to. From what I see around me, the lifestyle largely works.
On the issue of monks. I think I appreciate that lifestyle more and more these days. I just know that with all the noise we have in daily life, it's hard to keep a message in your head consistent with that lifestyle. The monks are there because they don't have this noise from society and pop culture. They live a simple life, they are immersed in the faith, and they keep the real meaning alive through the generations so it is not perverted by what goes on in the secular world.
I have my issues with the Bible and religion myself, but I am 100% sold on the lifestyle.
Spot on.

The "noise" we have in our daily lives is not just media and from external sources. We absorb way too much of that and internalize it, and wonder just EXACTLY what it is we should be and do.

This is one of the reasons we see a bit of resurgence in practices such as meditation and yoga as well as prayer. You learn to stop obsessing and worrying, and come to listen to your own inner guidance. As a whole, I do think we've lost the ability to listen to ourselves, our consciences, our own voices on how to be and what to do. We're so damn busy and focused on trash like celebrities that we clutter our minds.

I couldn't do the monk or nun thing. No way. But from personal experience, slowing my life down and turning off a lot of media and listening to my inner guidance more has made for a much better life. Seriously, who are people like the Kardashians to emulate or some dingaling media darling?

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1348 Sep 23, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Because your behavior says otherwise. Anyone can be baptized, take communion and attend church. That doesn't make them anything. It's what's in your heart and soul that makes you a Christian and you clearly do not have those factors.
Not true. If you wish to become a Catholic, you must go through Rite of Christian Initiation (RCIA) and become "formed in the faith." It's not an easy path. Should you, like me, be a "cradle Catholic," meaning you were born and baptized into it as an infant, you are still "formed" in the faith through education and the sacraments.

Not all Christian sects are the same. And no. I cannot read what is in your mind and soul, and vice-versa. So I suggest you are skating on some thin ice with your statement about what makes Bobby a Christian, or not. Judgement? Hmmm.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#1349 Sep 23, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Tony. You are incorrect.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
"There is a close correlation between Antarctic temperature and atmospheric concentrations of CO2 (Barnola et al. 1987). The extension of the Vostok CO2 record shows that the main trends of CO2 are similar for each glacial cycle. Major transitions from the lowest to the highest values are associated with glacial-interglacial transitions. During these transitions, the atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rises from 180 to 280-300 ppmv (Petit et al. 1999). The extension of the Vostok CO2 record shows the present-day levels of CO2 are unprecedented during the past 420 kyr. Pre-industrial Holocene levels (~280 ppmv) are found during all interglacials, with the highest values (~300 ppmv) found approximately 323 kyr BP. When the Vostok ice core data were compared with other ice core data (Delmas et al. 1980; Neftel et al. 1982) for the past 30,000 - 40,000 years, good agreement was found between the records: all show low CO2 values [~200 parts per million by volume (ppmv)] during the Last Glacial Maximum and increased atmospheric CO2 concentrations associated with the glacial-Holocene transition. According to Barnola et al.(1991) and Petit et al.(1999) these measurements indicate that, at the beginning of the deglaciations, the CO2 increase either was in phase or lagged by less than ~1000 years with respect to the Antarctic temperature, whereas it clearly lagged behind the temperature at the onset of the glaciations."
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_y...
http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionar...
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/icecore.html
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Pal...

If people take issue with how the data is interpreted through the use of computer models to predict future trends, that's fine.
I don't know what they're supposed to represent, seems like it's just trial and error until they come up with one that "looks right". Seems to me that if they were right, they'd all show the same thing. It looks for all the world like they just pick the ones that say what they want them to say.
But the data clearly shows unprecedented levels of co2 since the onset of the industrial revolution.
Not in dispute, and if CO2 concentration and temperature were correlated the way the AGW people would have us believe, one would expect temperatures would be unprecedented as well. The other way (that warmer temperatures lead to more CO2 in the atmosphere) makes more sense.(Since there were no industries or SUVs in the last several peaks in the last half-million years, what do you suppose caused the CO2 concentration to rise?)
Your assertion that "current studies have pretty much abandoned any use of ice core data" is false as well.
There are samples being extracted/analyzed as I type.
woof
Where are these new studies? Could they be among the data that several governments are urging scientists not to release?

It's all about control... and ironically, it's about control of the poor... by making energy so expensive that only the wealthy can afford it, they can keep them down. Fits right in with the true intent of leftist policies.

Since: Jan 12

Detroit, MI

#1350 Sep 23, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Do you have Dollar Tree stores there, kiddo? I get bags of dry cat and dog food, 20 oz. for $1.00 each. That's what I feed the feral cats here with. And I never see any sign of a mouse. Dave's a good guy.
Ha! Your "help" will send those feral beast to an early demise, and a painful one at that, by feeding them the 20oz. packs of pet food from China, loaded with saw dust and mercury from China's industrial plants! The Chinese are very efficient and let nothing go to waste! They even use the solid waste from their sewers as fertilizer and feed for their fish farms, which are then packaged and sold to Wal- Mart. Don't believe it, Google "China's use of solid waste."

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#1351 Sep 23, 2013
I listen to Catholic radio regularly.
I find it immensely encouraging, and I'm not even a Catholic.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#1352 Sep 23, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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So Matthew 7:1 doesn't appear in your Bible? Judge not, that you be not judged?
I consent to being judged. Therefore I can :)

Since: Jan 12

Detroit, MI

#1353 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not true. If you wish to become a Catholic, you must go through Rite of Christian Initiation (RCIA) and become "formed in the faith." It's not an easy path. Should you, like me, be a "cradle Catholic," meaning you were born and baptized into it as an infant, you are still "formed" in the faith through education and the sacraments.
Not all Christian sects are the same. And no. I cannot read what is in your mind and soul, and vice-versa. So I suggest you are skating on some thin ice with your statement about what makes Bobby a Christian, or not. Judgement? Hmmm.
Point me anywhere to the words of Christ that says anyone has to be "initiated" into some "ritual" in order to follow HIM and be saved. I can post several "Secret Society" initiation ceremonies, that one has to past before becoming one of the "enlightened ones". Hahaha! It's so apparent why you people think and believe the way you do.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#1354 Sep 23, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Point me anywhere to the words of Christ that says anyone has to be "initiated" into some "ritual" in order to follow HIM and be saved. I can post several "Secret Society" initiation ceremonies, that one has to past before becoming one of the "enlightened ones". Hahaha! It's so apparent why you people think and believe the way you do.
John the Baptist
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#1355 Sep 23, 2013
-tip- wrote:
I listen to Catholic radio regularly.
I find it immensely encouraging, and I'm not even a Catholic.
I am really surprised at what a good quality product they produce. When it first came on, I assumed it was going to be 24 hour mass or weirdo stuff. I didn't realize they would have so many shows where they attempt to teach people what the thinking is behind the various things Christianity teaches.

I'm a nuts and bolts person and I really like the "how do you do things and why do you do them" aspect of religious teaching. After listening to Catholic Radio sparodically, I decided that the church has a very strong and compelling story to tell even in this day in age.

“Bee Hive Jive”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#1356 Sep 23, 2013
When joining a religion, there are always rituals a person has to go through and learn.
Born agains, Jehovah's, Episcopalian Chatholic , Jewish. Etc.
There are duties they must perform,serve a ministry( door to door),teachings of the church, etc. it's not as simple as it sounds.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#1357 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not true. If you wish to become a Catholic, you must go through Rite of Christian Initiation (RCIA) and become "formed in the faith."

It's not an easy path. Should you, like me, be a "cradle Catholic," meaning you were born and baptized into it as an infant, you are still "formed" in the faith through education and the sacraments.

Not all Christian sects are the same. And no. I cannot read what is in your mind and soul, and vice-versa. So I suggest you are skating on some thin ice with your statement about what makes Bobby a Christian, or not. Judgement? Hmmm.
Religion is not an academic subject as not all adherents are academically inclined. Much to my surprise, however, there is sound logic and thinking grounding most of the things the church teaches people to do. As someone baptised in the faith, I have a lifetime of knowledge about the faith through immersion, doing things, and being around like-minded people who live their lives in the same way.

If you are angry and bitter and trash the church, you trash an institution that does a lot of good for people by keeping the practices and the lifestyle alive, especially when it comes to fostering an environment for younger generations and teaching them the proper way to lead their lives.

At the end of the day, that's what it's all about. You teach the younger generations to do the right thing through a mixture of fear and example. If you did things right, when you get older they get it. It's not really that hard: Don't lie, cheat, steal, kill, covet, use chemicals in excess, don't have sex outside of marriage, and once you get married, that's the only spouse you get. Delay of gratification.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1358 Sep 23, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Point me anywhere to the words of Christ that says anyone has to be "initiated" into some "ritual" in order to follow HIM and be saved. I can post several "Secret Society" initiation ceremonies, that one has to past before becoming one of the "enlightened ones". Hahaha! It's so apparent why you people think and believe the way you do.
No, you are not "initiated." The term refers to beginning of a journey, to initiate or start a spiritual journey. You cannot as an adult be baptized without the education, or RCIA. Baptism into the faith remains for a lifetime, is the first step toward obtaining the rest of the sacraments, within the support of the Catholic community. We don't just gather 'em down by the river and dunk 'em.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1359 Sep 23, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Religion is not an academic subject as not all adherents are academically inclined. Much to my surprise, however, there is sound logic and thinking grounding most of the things the church teaches people to do. As someone baptised in the faith, I have a lifetime of knowledge about the faith through immersion, doing things, and being around like-minded people who live their lives in the same way.
If you are angry and bitter and trash the church, you trash an institution that does a lot of good for people by keeping the practices and the lifestyle alive, especially when it comes to fostering an environment for younger generations and teaching them the proper way to lead their lives.
At the end of the day, that's what it's all about. You teach the younger generations to do the right thing through a mixture of fear and example. If you did things right, when you get older they get it. It's not really that hard: Don't lie, cheat, steal, kill, covet, use chemicals in excess, don't have sex outside of marriage, and once you get married, that's the only spouse you get. Delay of gratification.
Not sure where you picked up the academic bent. It's not academic to become a Catholic as an adult. However, it is a learning phase which one must go through to learn and understand the basic premises of the faith and also as a period of discernment: "Is this what I really wish to commit to?" The Roman Catholic church is very clear on this process, but not sure how it works in the other Catholic sects or even within Protestantism.

I agree with you in that it is indeed a "way of life." One learns to discern, or judge, what is good or not good for themselves mentally, physically, and spiritually.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#1360 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not sure where you picked up the academic bent. It's not academic to become a Catholic as an adult. However, it is a learning phase which one must go through to learn and understand the basic premises of the faith and also as a period of discernment: "Is this what I really wish to commit to?" The Roman Catholic church is very clear on this process, but not sure how it works in the other Catholic sects or even within Protestantism.
I agree with you in that it is indeed a "way of life." One learns to discern, or judge, what is good or not good for themselves mentally, physically, and spiritually.
I was born and raised catholic. Been to all catholic schools too. So I know what you are talking about.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Canal Winchester, OH

#1361 Sep 23, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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What is relevant is that you are a skank and I wouldn't touch anything you've touched before it is washed down with a bleach solution.
Deflection. Either way, you go and be happy in all your hatred and judgment. I'm pretty sure out of the two of us, I'm the happier person. Cheers!

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Canal Winchester, OH

#1362 Sep 23, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not true. If you wish to become a Catholic, you must go through Rite of Christian Initiation (RCIA) and become "formed in the faith." It's not an easy path. Should you, like me, be a "cradle Catholic," meaning you were born and baptized into it as an infant, you are still "formed" in the faith through education and the sacraments.
Not all Christian sects are the same. And no. I cannot read what is in your mind and soul, and vice-versa. So I suggest you are skating on some thin ice with your statement about what makes Bobby a Christian, or not. Judgement? Hmmm.
When I was 13 I decided I wanted to become a Catholic. I had to attend classes, talk to the priest and learn some prayers before the whole baptize thing. It wasn't that hard.

As Bob says, I'm permitted and encouraged to judge. I judge him on his words and actions and the judgment I've made is that he is a CINO. Anyone who excuses the sexual abuse of a child cannot be pure of heart or intentions.

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