In Defense of Stereotypes

“animis opibusque parati”

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#842 Sep 19, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Away. That is the most common place people run.
That explains why I'm still here.
As your daddy says, "Egad!"
He must be so embarrassed.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#843 Sep 19, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Choose their own destinies. Choose whether they want to have a child, have an abortion or give the child up for adoption. That's what choice means.
What a detached way of thinking toward something physically attached to you. Put it that way, I feel sorry for the baby who has become an object like that at a garage sale. Should I buy it, should I not? Hmmmm....will it be clutter? Will I tire of it?

“animis opibusque parati”

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#844 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Good for you. Are those babies unwanted, such that the mothers and fathers are abusing/neglecting them or planning to give them up?
woof
The purpose of a charitable support system is to prevent such. And so much better than mom having to live the rest of her life grappling with the guilt of choosing to kill her own baby prior to its birth.
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#845 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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When the Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, viability was arbitrarily declared to be at 24 weeks. As medical technology has advanced, today's earliest surviving preemie was born at 21 weeks 5 days. So...in one room, unwanted babies can be killed at 24 weeks -- while in another, wanted babies can be saved at under 22 22 weeks.
A moral dilemma, no?
Of course its a moral dilemma. But whose should it be? Yours? The Courts'? The Mother's? The Father's? Zealots on either side of the issue?

You're speaking to the father of twins who were born prematurely at 29 weeks, weighed slightly over two pounds at birth, and spent six months to the day in the hospital before they came home on oxygen for another six months. They lived with the side effects of underdeveloped lungs for years afterwards, among others. The hospital bill was half a million dollars. They're both fine now, fairly well adjusted young women, attending college.

You think I don't understand all of that?

woof
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#846 Sep 19, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I rarely see high-income white people helping at these events.
I'm certain you have. I'm certain you've been side-by-side with the 'millionaire next door'- one who drives an old but serviceable car, one who does not spend a lot on hair, makeup, jewelry, clothes or technology, and who might even wear clothes from a thrift shop. They live very modestly and replace high-ticket items with the best money can buy, but only when necessary. You could drive through a neighborhood and not realize they have just as much as someone living in a ritzy suburban area. So I would like to know as well - how exactly do you identify a high-income white person? Do they have a mark I've not noticed before?
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#847 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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The purpose of a charitable support system is to prevent such. And so much better than mom having to live the rest of her life grappling with the guilt of choosing to kill her own baby prior to its birth.
Come right out and say it Tip.

You volunteer with a pro-life organization that works towards convincing young women to decide to keep their babies rather than abort them as fetuses.

Fair enough. No need to hide from it.

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

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#848 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Of course its a moral dilemma. But whose should it be? Yours? The Courts'? The Mother's? The Father's? Zealots on either side of the issue?
You're speaking to the father of twins who were born prematurely at 29 weeks, weighed slightly over two pounds at birth, and spent six months to the day in the hospital before they came home on oxygen for another six months. They lived with the side effects of underdeveloped lungs for years afterwards, among others. The hospital bill was half a million dollars. They're both fine now, fairly well adjusted young women, attending college.
You think I don't understand all of that?
woof
In that event, I would hope your understanding would be much deeper than what you have...sadly...exhibited.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#849 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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That explains why I'm still here.
As your daddy says, "Egad!"
He must be so embarrassed.
Physically here. Yes. Intellectually engaged in the little bugaboo you created for yourself, no.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#850 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Come right out and say it Tip.
You volunteer with a pro-life organization that works towards convincing young women to decide to keep their babies rather than abort them as fetuses.
Fair enough. No need to hide from it.
woof
He stalks, he pounces...he misses.
Par for the course.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#851 Sep 19, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Physically here. Yes. Intellectually engaged in the little bugaboo you created for yourself, no.
Bugaboo? Hmmm.
I christen thee "Bugaboo."
Now, shoo.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#853 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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In that event, I would hope your understanding would be much deeper than what you have...sadly...exhibited.
And what I mean by that comment is to acknowledge the fact that you have witnessed that gift of new human life -- precious life -- struggle and succeed at survival.

After witnessing such a miracle, how could one ever consider denying that opportunity to another human?
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#854 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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In that event, I would hope your understanding would be much deeper than what you have...sadly...exhibited.
No Tip, its much, much deeper than you have perceived.

You think I am "pro-abortion". I am not.

At the same time, even acknowledging that the process is distasteful, violent, and certainly inhumane, I see very little benefit in criminalizing abortion before viability, or making it unavailable to women who are going to find a way to do it regardless of legality.

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

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#855 Sep 19, 2013
Spooktackular kcus sllotr wrote:
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They will have one brused cheek. From where the IRS has been dry humping them in the wallet.
LOL!
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#856 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Bugaboo? Hmmm.
I christen thee "Bugaboo."
Now, shoo.
See how that works? How you can be here yet still be running away?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#857 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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No Tip, its much, much deeper than you have perceived.
You think I am "pro-abortion". I am not.
At the same time, even acknowledging that the process is distasteful, violent, and certainly inhumane, I see very little benefit in criminalizing abortion before viability, or making it unavailable to women who are going to find a way to do it regardless of legality.
woof
Actually, it's very, very simple.
Either human life has value...or it does not.

21st century America reflects a society which has determined it does not.
As Bob noted, Americans are increasingly rejecting that misguided notion.
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#858 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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And what I mean by that comment is to acknowledge the fact that you have witnessed that gift of new human life -- precious life -- struggle and succeed at survival.
After witnessing such a miracle, how could one ever consider denying that opportunity to another human?
Because I've also seen the other results as well...even more often...when kids aren't wanted, treated like sh1t, abused, neglected, abandoned, molested, no hope, mental illness exacerbated by their abuse/abandonment. On and on.

Not pretty. See it constantly. Very very sad. They grow up to continue the cycle.

That's why. I don't have the answers. I'm telling you what I see, with my very own eyes. Teenagers self-injuring, attempting suicide. Eight year olds with serious mental health diagnoses that make them nearly un-adoptable in most people's minds. Kids with no hope.

Just because they get to breathe out of the womb, doesn't mean their lives are happy, or even close.

I see both sides.

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

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#859 Sep 19, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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See how that works? How you can be here yet still be running away?
OK, everyone -- look at Bugaboo.
She needs attention.
Now -- look away, and don't ever look back.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#860 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Because I've also seen the other results as well...even more often...when kids aren't wanted, treated like sh1t, abused, neglected, abandoned, molested, no hope, mental illness exacerbated by their abuse/abandonment. On and on.
Not pretty. See it constantly. Very very sad. They grow up to continue the cycle.
That's why. I don't have the answers. I'm telling you what I see, with my very own eyes. Teenagers self-injuring, attempting suicide. Eight year olds with serious mental health diagnoses that make them nearly un-adoptable in most people's minds. Kids with no hope.
Just because they get to breathe out of the womb, doesn't mean their lives are happy, or even close.
I see both sides.
woof
It is only the reflection of a society that has abandoned morality [i.e., God].
God's instructions [i.e., commandments and Jesus' teachings] encourage chastity, fidelity, respect and love -- the makings of a committed, supportive family unit.

When His blueprint is ignored, the results are disastrous.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#861 Sep 19, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Because I've also seen the other results as well...even more often...when kids aren't wanted, treated like sh1t, abused, neglected, abandoned, molested, no hope, mental illness exacerbated by their abuse/abandonment. On and on.
Not pretty. See it constantly. Very very sad. They grow up to continue the cycle.
That's why. I don't have the answers. I'm telling you what I see, with my very own eyes. Teenagers self-injuring, attempting suicide. Eight year olds with serious mental health diagnoses that make them nearly un-adoptable in most people's minds. Kids with no hope.
Just because they get to breathe out of the womb, doesn't mean their lives are happy, or even close.
I see both sides.
woof
So you see these lives as unsalveageable? Or merely as burdens financially? Where is your opportunity to provide hope, Counselor?

Since: Oct 10

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#862 Sep 19, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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When the Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, viability was arbitrarily declared to be at 24 weeks. As medical technology has advanced, today's earliest surviving preemie was born at 21 weeks 5 days. So...in one room, unwanted babies can be killed at 24 weeks -- while in another, wanted babies can be saved at under 22 22 weeks.
A moral dilemma, no?
Science has also enlightened us to the fact that DNA is present at conception. The fetus's DNA, separate from the parents.

Those that counsel for, perform and even promote and profit from abortions continuously, day after day, to woman after woman, in my mind, are the worse offenders. When a society loses value for human life, that society will fall.

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