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Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#738 Sep 21, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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You can't cut off all aid and no one wants to. "The poor will always be with us." But we have created a very dangerous, generation to generation welfare ridden part of society that we just cannot afford anymore.
This is a way of life to them, their parents, grandparents, everyone in their life and they really don't know that there is better out there.
Back when employment was good, some companies tried lifting some of these people up by giving them alarm clocks when they were hired. Didn't help them make the transition to work. In most cases they sold them.
Boot camp. And don't let them leave until they master the subject.
notlocal

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#739 Sep 21, 2012
Kemosahbe wrote:
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See again the second line of post #707.
And Bob has danced close enough to the concept that I think he really thinks EVERYBODY can prosper. He sure doesn't want his money "confiscated" to take care of others, no matter the circumstances. He thinks family should shoulder it all.
Spin all you want, I'm not buying.
Everyone can prosper. It is all there for anyone who wants it bad enough. Today more than ever. Certainly if you are a miniority like Elizabeth Warren.(add sarcasm)

Welfare has destroyed the family unit.

My great maternal grandmother lost her husband in the 1918 flu epedemic. She had three children, 6 months, 2 years and 4 years old. In a small town, she moved in with her mother, also widowed, and they took in laundry and were seamtresses. Aunts, uncles and everyone helped eachother. Different cousins also came to live there at times.

My great paternal grandmother had SEVEN children when her husband died. The 'older' boys, say above age 8, were sent to neighboring farms to work and live and handed over their $1.00 a week earnings to their mother. She took in boarders and cooked for the soldiers guarding a nearby bridge during WW II. The family bonded and helped each other.

These were strong women. All of their children finished high school and some college. All were middle to upper income earners.

Welfare and SS benefits for dependents has done away with all of that. The young women I know depend on the government, not their families.

What wew've lost through entitlements is not going to be regained. And I am not talking about the money. So many Americans have become weak.
notlocal

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#740 Sep 21, 2012
Pr Jonah wrote:
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Ugly Soul would be a an appropriate name for a Tea Party Catholic Rock Band.
But I am interested in how you would logistically assign the sins of one man, a father to subsequent generations. The ironic thing was that was an ancient Jewish notion that Jews over time discarded, as is evident in the NT when the subject came up, and Jesus took the progressive side on that one.
Now, economically, it's quite the fact that a father's economic decisions/condition can impact down the line on subsequent generations. But it sounds like you are saying, "Why do I have to pay for what your Grandpa did or didn't do?" And the grandkid, is just sayin, "Screw Grandpa, I got scrotum cancer, no money, and I'm little concerned about it all".
I think that when the Bible says, "The sins of the father shall be visited upon the son", it means the way you raise, and what you teach your children through your example, will likely determine their future lot in life. Not always, but more often than not.
notlocal

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#741 Sep 21, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Boot camp. And don't let them leave until they master the subject.
Well, most would never leave unless you include hard labor and take away the video games.

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#742 Sep 21, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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Random drug testing would cut 1/2 of them off the roles. Test positive and you're cut out for ten years. Bam!
It's a customary practice on most all construction sites, so what would be the big deal? The dectection kits ar so good now that nothing gets past them.
As far as the cost v the savings, it's a win, win. Besides when the tax code is simplified, and Romney will, we will layoffs at IRS.
Clinton's work for welfare did wonders. Now Obama has cut it just in time to get votes.
Wow, a short bus rider.

Half of welfare recipients would be kicked off with drug testing?? Guess again, genius:

TALLAHASSEE Required drug tests for people seeking welfare benefits ended up costing taxpayers more than it saved and failed to curb the number of prospective applicants, data used against the state in an ongoing legal battle shows.

The findings that only 108 of the 4,086 people who took a drug test failed are additional ammunition for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, which sued the state and won a temporary ban on the drug-testing program in October, said ACLU spokesman Derek Newton.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/florida-d...

It cost Florida more to implement the drug test than they saved in not paying out to one who failed the test.

Chances are great that there is a much higher concentration of substance abusers in your church than you'll find at Job and Family Services applying for benefits.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#743 Sep 21, 2012
Progressive Ohioan wrote:
Whipping on the poor is one of the last vestiges for those with absolutely no soul. You're beating up on the wrong people rather than creating ways or building support for ways to get people off welfare.
I'm not gonna argue that it's not in the interest of any human to want to be on welfare. Instead, I'll counter with the obvious fact that those of you on the right who continue to denigrate those on the bottom of the scale have very little problem with the billions that are used to subsidize big oil, pharmaceutical companies, telecommunications companies, farming conglomerates and oh yeah! those unfunded wars.
Rather than go after the real criminals from the corporacrocy of America you wanna beat up on welfare families and children.
It's weak, it's pathetic and as long as you continue it, you'll keep the 47% divided while the very, very, very wealthy corporations light another cigar and laugh.
Another poster who hasn't a clue! You have no idea if any readers here have been to military funerals - or why. Think before you speak, and if someone actually does defend obscene amounts of money going to certain wars then by all means, debate him/her. It does seem like those who lean left have been using tons of generalizations recently, I suppose because of the mindset that people must be grouped and labeled. I find it sad, though, because you sound like you're making a lot of noise with no syllables.
hmm

Lawrenceburg, KY

#744 Sep 21, 2012
Gallup has obama and romney both at 47%, where did that lead go libs?
Female

Chillicothe, OH

#745 Sep 21, 2012
As some are praising Mr. Romney for inflating his tax ratio by not using all of his charity donations... I would like to point out that he listed the additional donations....Why?

Because he has 1 year to file an amendment to this return where he would be credited with the dollars back. Taking his ratio back down without sharing it with the public.

Otherwise Romney didn't have to list all his donations... there is no law on that.

I think we can all see pop-goes the Romney!
Female

Chillicothe, OH

#746 Sep 21, 2012
Romney shows his distain toward the 47% for not paying enough taxes and for not being responsible but yet he is the king at avoiding paying his own by using every loophole possible and hiding money. What a jerk.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#747 Sep 22, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Wow, a short bus rider.
Half of welfare recipients would be kicked off with drug testing?? Guess again, genius:
TALLAHASSEE Required drug tests for people seeking welfare benefits ended up costing taxpayers more than it saved and failed to curb the number of prospective applicants, data used against the state in an ongoing legal battle shows.
The findings that only 108 of the 4,086 people who took a drug test failed are additional ammunition for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, which sued the state and won a temporary ban on the drug-testing program in October, said ACLU spokesman Derek Newton.
That would make it impractical for testing every applicant or recipient, but not necessarily for random and suspicion-based testing.
Willard Milton Romney

Hillsboro, OH

#748 Sep 22, 2012
Obama to the 53%: F ME

"I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message".
WiseAmerican

Columbus, OH

#749 Sep 22, 2012
Ryan gets booed at AARP , Romney is continuing to not only step in shut, but lick the Boot clean by doubling down on his remarks. Now we have Mr. 999 Herman, I'm weak for blonds with big ta Ta's, Cain, slamming Willard for his constant flubs and an inability to make the case of why he should be president. Romney is not presidential nor does he have the temperament to deal with sensitive issues such as WAR. He is the perfect candidate that Grover Norquist talked about the GOP needs, "someone who has five digits that can hold a pen and sign whatever legislation we put in front of him". I can't believe how lame and stupid most of you are at this stage that are still Romney supporters. The man hasn't a clue. He thinks you can run a empire the way you run a business, how foolish and ridiculous this clown is. In a business, there's no judicial branch or legislative branch you have to deal with. In business, there's no 16th century barbarians waiting in your lobby for you to get off the elevator so they can assassinate you. In business, there's not a diverse group of people that your decesions will affect for generations to come. This man only wants in the WH to "one up" his old man, and we've already had a rich spoiled kid in the WH who grew up getting his way, we don't need another playing toy soldiers with our children's lives. No thank you Willard, IT'S NOT YOUR TURN.

Since: Oct 11

Columbus, OH

#750 Sep 22, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
This man only wants in the WH to "one up" his old man, and we've already had a rich spoiled kid in the WH who grew up getting his way, we don't need another playing toy soldiers with our children's lives. No thank you Willard, IT'S NOT YOUR TURN.
Ain't THAT the truth. The fledgling right-wing knows this and are only remorseful because the smart American public sees right through their latest transparent dummy. They don't like this guy. They don't relate to this guy. They do, however, have him painted into his own corner in which he's proposed to be sent to DC to do their bidding. Republicans want a puppet regime. They had one with Bush and it's the only path they can use.

It's why they need to attempt to steal the election with voter ids and less voting time and the like. They're desperately trying to hold onto relevance in a world that is changing against them.

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#751 Sep 22, 2012
Female wrote:
As some are praising Mr. Romney for inflating his tax ratio by not using all of his charity donations... I would like to point out that he listed the additional donations....Why?
Because he has 1 year to file an amendment to this return where he would be credited with the dollars back. Taking his ratio back down without sharing it with the public.
Otherwise Romney didn't have to list all his donations... there is no law on that.
I think we can all see pop-goes the Romney!
Another unattributed cut and paste, except for the last sentence.
Female: Liar, plagiarist, moron, hilljack.

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#752 Sep 22, 2012
Female wrote:
Romney shows his distain toward the 47% for not paying enough taxes and for not being responsible but yet he is the king at avoiding paying his own by using every loophole possible and hiding money. What a jerk.
No wonder you're mad. You don't pay taxes. Those of us who do take all the legal deductions and credits that are available. And we say to you envious mooches, "STFU."
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#753 Sep 22, 2012
Progressive Ohioan wrote:
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Ain't THAT the truth. The fledgling right-wing knows this and are only remorseful because the smart American public sees right through their latest transparent dummy. They don't like this guy. They don't relate to this guy. They do, however, have him painted into his own corner in which he's proposed to be sent to DC to do their bidding. Republicans want a puppet regime. They had one with Bush and it's the only path they can use.
It's why they need to attempt to steal the election with voter ids and less voting time and the like. They're desperately trying to hold onto relevance in a world that is changing against them.
I don't know who's going to win the election but until your candidate is leading in double digits in poll after poll, the American public isn't seeing through anything.

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#754 Sep 22, 2012
Wait what wrote:
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I don't know who's going to win the election but until your candidate is leading in double digits in poll after poll, the American public isn't seeing through anything.
I've said all along that this will be a close race. Obama does seem to have large enough leads in 'blue' states at this point to be projected to win the electoral college significantly.

With that said, there is plenty of time for either to screw up huge. There are things out of Obama's control that could work for or against him, such as the economy or jobs situation.

I think that we're in for an interesting month and a half, I'm still planning on voting for Gary Johnson.
notlocal

AOL

#755 Sep 22, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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That would make it impractical for testing every applicant or recipient, but not necessarily for random and suspicion-based testing.
'Random' is the keyowrd and action that has to be taken.
notlocal

AOL

#756 Sep 22, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
, and we've already had a rich spoiled kid in the WH who grew up getting his way, we don't need another playing toy soldiers with our children's lives. No thank you Willard, IT'S NOT YOUR TURN.
You are refering to Jack Kennedy, I assume?

Take a look at the series online, "The Obama you Don't Know" He was always a priviledged, spoiled child and adult, living in the best neighborhoods and attending the best schools.

Yes, there is plenty of time for either to make a major gaffe. And there will be more, I'm sure.

It is so tight, that the election can go either way. Obama has to run on his record, and something blows up on that everyday. He has no idea what he is doing other than promoting a socialist agenda, making sweetheart deals with our tax money and surrounding himself with his syncophants.
notlocal

AOL

#757 Sep 22, 2012
Female wrote:
As some are praising Mr. Romney for inflating his tax ratio by not using all of his charity donations... I would like to point out that he listed the additional donations....Why?
Because he has 1 year to file an amendment to this return where he would be credited with the dollars back. Taking his ratio back down without sharing it with the public.
Otherwise Romney didn't have to list all his donations... there is no law on that.
I think we can all see pop-goes the Romney!
Grow up. Enough on the tax returns.

Concentrate on why we bought $1.8 million worth of solar panels for the Senator Paul Simon Federal Building in 2010, illegally using stimulus funds, while Solyndra and Energy Abound, who received 1/2 billion and $400 million, respectively, failed.

The contractor the government hired to install the panels questioned if it were legal to use them and was dismissed by the federal oversight.

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