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bosco

Columbus, OH

#1 Jul 25, 2013
Sorry for your luck but what would you expect when you build it in the most desolate part of the city. What is there? It also looks no more than a pole barn with extreme lighting. Other reviews I have read all scold the same points. You are lacking in customer value and customer service.
I am heading to Cincy or Vegas/
Enzyte Bob

United States

#2 Jul 25, 2013
bosco wrote:
Sorry for your luck but what would you expect when you build it in the most desolate part of the city. What is there? It also looks no more than a pole barn with extreme lighting. Other reviews I have read all scold the same points. You are lacking in customer value and customer service.
I am heading to Cincy or Vegas/
Scioto Downs is doing well and it's not exactly in New Albany. Obetz and Hamilton Township are just as crappy as Lincoln Village.

The problem is not location. If you've ever seen some of the thugs there on a Friday or Saturday night you automatically know why they didn't want this thing downtown.

The problem is that people around here are not so dumb to throw their money away at a casino, not to mention that having a total of 5 Hollywood casinos within 2 hours of Columbus (Lawrenceburg, Toledo, Dayton, Youngstown) doesn't exactly make them a novelty.

Casinos work where you have a lot of blue-collar people and welfare recipients. They're the only ones dumb enough to throw their money away at a casino. White Collar people, pink collar people, government employees and farmers aren't quite as stupid.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#3 Jul 25, 2013
When you rely on low end people for your clientele, you probably should rethink $25 minimums at the tables. That's just idiotic.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#4 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
When you rely on low end people for your clientele, you probably should rethink $25 minimums at the tables. That's just idiotic.
I just had a thought. The other cities in Ohio also have a larger proportion of Catholics van Columbus does. Columbus is more Protestant than the other Ohio cities that have casinos. Catholics gamble in larger numbers than Protestants.

It could just be another example of where you have to be a little bit of a bigot to understand marketing and demographics.
bosco

Columbus, OH

#5 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Scioto Downs is doing well and it's not exactly in New Albany. Obetz and Hamilton Township are just as crappy as Lincoln Village.
The problem is not location. If you've ever seen some of the thugs there on a Friday or Saturday night you automatically know why they didn't want this thing downtown.
The problem is that people around here are not so dumb to throw their money away at a casino, not to mention that having a total of 5 Hollywood casinos within 2 hours of Columbus (Lawrenceburg, Toledo, Dayton, Youngstown) doesn't exactly make them a novelty.
Casinos work where you have a lot of blue-collar people and welfare recipients. They're the only ones dumb enough to throw their money away at a casino. White Collar people, pink collar people, government employees and farmers aren't quite as stupid.
You make a vaild point. However Scioto Downs seems to be more open and airy where as hollywood seems to be like a DMZ that I have seen overseas. SD also seems to be more friendly.

Also if I am going to gamble, I want to go somewhere. I want it to be enjoyable. I don't want stay at home. It's a vacation. There should be other venues attached:Shows, Restaurants, Lakes or Pools. Sightseeing and the like.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#6 Jul 25, 2013
bosco wrote:
<quoted text>You make a vaild point. However Scioto Downs seems to be more open and airy where as hollywood seems to be like a DMZ that I have seen overseas. SD also seems to be more friendly.
Also if I am going to gamble, I want to go somewhere. I want it to be enjoyable. I don't want stay at home. It's a vacation. There should be other venues attached:Shows, Restaurants, Lakes or Pools. Sightseeing and the like.
Exactly. I can see going to a casino as part of a vacation destination, but that's not what this operation is. To me both casinos are adult versions of the old Funway Freeway video game parlors they had when I was growing up.

Both places did nothing for me. In terms of physical appearance, Hollywood was far more appealing. Neither had any restaurants or food that looks very appealing to me either. However, I liked the fact that you could mill out of the casino and over on to the racetrack at Scioto Downs.

But they make no money off of someone like me. I stick five dollars into the machines but take far more than that out of them in free Diet Coke.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#7 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I just had a thought. The other cities in Ohio also have a larger proportion of Catholics van Columbus does. Columbus is more Protestant than the other Ohio cities that have casinos. Catholics gamble in larger numbers than Protestants.
It could just be another example of where you have to be a little bit of a bigot to understand marketing and demographics.
You have a point. There's a reason the casinos in New England do so well. Even MA is getting in on the act.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#8 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>You have a point. There's a reason the casinos in New England do so well. Even MA is getting in on the act.
If the Hollywood people are smart they are going to resurrect the Argosy name for their casinos in Dayton and Youngstown. All you have to do is put up a different sign and enough people will be fooled into thinking that it's a different operation.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#9 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Exactly. I can see going to a casino as part of a vacation destination, but that's not what this operation is. To me both casinos are adult versions of the old Funway Freeway video game parlors they had when I was growing up.
Both places did nothing for me. In terms of physical appearance, Hollywood was far more appealing. Neither had any restaurants or food that looks very appealing to me either. However, I liked the fact that you could mill out of the casino and over on to the racetrack at Scioto Downs.
But they make no money off of someone like me. I stick five dollars into the machines but take far more than that out of them in free Diet Coke.
And you say you hate jews,
Why does Enzyte Bob have such a big mug.......because diet coke is free.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#10 Jul 25, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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And you say you hate jews,
Why does Enzyte Bob have such a big mug.......because diet coke is free.
They have their good points. I only hate them because they are the core of the leftist anarchists who attempted to destroy everything that made this country great.

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#11 Jul 25, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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And you say you hate jews,
Why does Enzyte Bob have such a big mug.......because diet coke is free.
The casino in Cleveland is owned by a Jew.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#12 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>You have a point. There's a reason the casinos in New England do so well. Even MA is getting in on the act.
Think about it: The mafia was never a huge factor here. You had some bookmaking connected to Cleveland, but it was mostly under the radar and mostly connected to the Catholic community here.

Maybe Penn just looked at the two million people in the area and the fact that it is the only part of Ohio that is growing, without understanding the underlying dynamics. Maybe they just assumed that Columbus was like the rest of Ohio big cities and would gamble at the same rate.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#13 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Think about it: The mafia was never a huge factor here. You had some bookmaking connected to Cleveland, but it was mostly under the radar and mostly connected to the Catholic community here.
Maybe Penn just looked at the two million people in the area and the fact that it is the only part of Ohio that is growing, without understanding the underlying dynamics. Maybe they just assumed that Columbus was like the rest of Ohio big cities and would gamble at the same rate.
Then they need to get their money back from the consultants they hired to do the marketing study.
Let's face it...they banked on being in the Arena District, too. I'm personally glad they're not, but it killed them.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#14 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>Then they need to get their money back from the consultants they hired to do the marketing study.
Let's face it...they banked on being in the Arena District, too. I'm personally glad they're not, but it killed them.
I don't know about that one. A casino that is a destination? Maybe. But Hollywood doesn't seem like a destination to me. No nice restaurants or anything with enough panache worthy of fighting downtown parking. Horseshoe sounds like it has better amenities in Cincy but who knows how much of that is real and how much is hype . I'll believe it when I see it. Cincinnati also has quite the colorful gambling history.

Covington and Newport Kentucky used to be their local version of Vegas back in the 1930s and 1940s. Brothels even operated out in the open even though prostitution was technically illegal. What happens in Newport stays in Newport.

Don't get me wrong, its not an awful place, but like Scioto Downs people who want it bad enough are going to seek it out. I just think that this isn't much of a gambling community. It's just too bookish and too nanny state for that.

Maybe they should have picked some place like Berliner Park.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#15 Jul 25, 2013
P.S. Their attitude coming in here was all wrong. they tried to muscle their way in without understanding the way things are done around here. Everything that happens around here that is major has to occur by consensus. They should have been a little more cooperative about relocating from the get go instead of insisting that they had a constitutional amendment and they can do whatever they wanted.

The extra millions they were bringing to Cincinnati and Cleveland meant a lot to those decrepit cities and they could do what they wanted. Doesn't work that way in the nanny state.

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#16 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
P.S. Their attitude coming in here was all wrong. they tried to muscle their way in without understanding the way things are done around here. Everything that happens around here that is major has to occur by consensus. They should have been a little more cooperative about relocating from the get go instead of insisting that they had a constitutional amendment and they can do whatever they wanted.
The extra millions they were bringing to Cincinnati and Cleveland meant a lot to those decrepit cities and they could do what they wanted. Doesn't work that way in the nanny state.
The Cleveland pols blew threw the casino money in a flash.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#17 Jul 25, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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The Cleveland pols blew threw the casino money in a flash.
That won't happen here...25% goes to pay for the Arena for the next 25 years.

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#18 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>That won't happen here...25% goes to pay for the Arena for the next 25 years.
The casino amendment only passed because they said it would generate piles of education cash, and was in the midst of a bad economy.

Of course, the schools already planned to spend all of it, and now complain that we have to give them more.
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#19 Jul 25, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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If the Hollywood people are smart they are going to resurrect the Argosy name for their casinos in Dayton and Youngstown. All you have to do is put up a different sign and enough people will be fooled into thinking that it's a different operation.
I don't know if it's relevant, but Ameet Patel & one of the Schottenstein's enjoy donating to Habitat for Humanity. Some of the furnishings from Holly"hood" has already made it to the store.
But anyhow, I don't agree with all you say about people giving the casino their money. The odds are by far better than the Ohio Lottery and not that hard from winning a little each time. They make their money from greedy gamblers(as you could say, stupid people so to speak), although, about every nationality goes in there and tries their luck.
Don't take it the wrong way, because you do have valid points, but I kinda believe its due to the convenience of not having to take a vacation and all that expense involved. Some just want to press their luck, get in, get out and go home and beat their wife for losing.LOL
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#20 Jul 25, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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The casino amendment only passed because they said it would generate piles of education cash, and was in the midst of a bad economy.
Of course, the schools already planned to spend all of it, and now complain that we have to give them more.
They had no intention in donating to education. I'm almost positive the casino made that clear. That's the Ohio Lotteries stage.

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