The "Tolerant Left" Strikes Again
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#433 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Well see who's right, history says I probably will be.
What are you talking about? You think "history" will explain whether or not here really was a "virgin birth"?

woof

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#434 Apr 22, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Favor? No. But they granted me citizenship out of the blue four years ago. I wouldn't take up arms against Canada even before that and certainly not now. The idea of being faced with that situation doesn't exactly keep me awake at night.
Your personal attack is at the level of a fifth grader, K. You really are trying to compensate for something...no doubt the same thing that drove you nuts several months ago.
BTW, the JBS is mainstream. They sponsor CPAC. But you couldn't be expected to actually keep up with things, now could you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Socie...

Interesting to see Reader and Kosmik reference JBS at the same time, my theory that they are the same person now has more evidence backing it.

They were a CPAC sponsor in 2010. That was the first, and probably the last time they'll get to do that.

They are mainstream only in that the now deceased Koch involved in its founding, has the now Koch Bros involved in many more institutions, though they don't do much with JBS, their main interest is CATO (not a fan of due to immigration views).
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#435 Apr 22, 2013
Someone gonna unearth the skeletal remains of a man with no DNA?

woof

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Since: Dec 11

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#436 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Actually that is not true.
One of the debates in the Reformation was over free will.
Calvinism, for instance, believes in predestination, and there is no free will.
If there is no free will, then no sin can be punished.

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#437 Apr 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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What are you talking about? You think "history" will explain whether or not here really was a "virgin birth"?
woof
I was referring to your views that their is no immorality in consensual sex.

I don't understand how a society with rampant marital breakdown will last very long.

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#438 Apr 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Someone gonna unearth the skeletal remains of a man with no DNA?
woof
"he ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father"

There isn't any skeletal remains or DNA to find.

Tomb was empty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masjid_al-Nab...

Though this guy's wasn't.

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#439 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Socie...
Interesting to see Reader and Kosmik reference JBS at the same time, my theory that they are the same person now has more evidence backing it.
They were a CPAC sponsor in 2010. That was the first, and probably the last time they'll get to do that.
They are mainstream only in that the now deceased Koch involved in its founding, has the now Koch Bros involved in many more institutions, though they don't do much with JBS, their main interest is CATO (not a fan of due to immigration views).
tip, I believe, quoted from the JBS rag.

Does that make us tri-une?

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#440 Apr 22, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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If there is no free will, then no sin can be punished.
That's the argument of Sam Harris.

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#441 Apr 22, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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If there is no free will, then no sin can be punished.
In the theological context Calvinism mainly says that people were willed to sin and there is no way to escape this. Namely, that the "elect" were chosen beforehand.

As to the preceding, Harris isn't a theologian, he's the exact opposite, it's a reference to neuroscience claims to prove some kind of determinism.

I tend towards the views of Kant, which state that you can't prove if free will exists or not.

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#442 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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I was referring to your views that their is no immorality in consensual sex.
I don't understand how a society with rampant marital breakdown will last very long.
If gay people can't get jobs they will be forced into opposite sex marriages?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#443 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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I was referring to your views that their is no immorality in consensual sex.
I don't understand how a society with rampant marital breakdown will last very long.
Actually I think the word I used was "vile".

Either way, I don't find it to be either one of those things.

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#444 Apr 22, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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tip, I believe, quoted from the JBS rag.
Does that make us tri-une?
Quoting the New American doesn't make you the same person, but it was weird that Kosmik was bringing up the same thing.

If you search Kosmik, on the threads, I've suggested before that you are the same individual.

Sort of how I'm alleged to be George.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#445 Apr 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Someone gonna unearth the skeletal remains of a man with no DNA?
woof
Pretty hard to do that after the Ascension.
You're in for a real shock someday.

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#446 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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That's the argument of Sam Harris.
Although I could argue that the punishments are predestined as well.

Excuse me. I was predestined to go potty right now :)

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#447 Apr 22, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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If gay people can't get jobs they will be forced into opposite sex marriages?
Wasn't referring to gay people.

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#448 Apr 22, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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I was predestined to go potty right now :)
Even from a free will argument, you were, as you ate, thus it was almost certain that it would be going out the other end.

Well, enough bathroom humor...

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#449 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Quoting the New American doesn't make you the same person, but it was weird that Kosmik was bringing up the same thing.
If you search Kosmik, on the threads, I've suggested before that you are the same individual.
Sort of how I'm alleged to be George.
Only makes sense if you cannot distinguish between the various different people who disagree with you.

I am not a libertarian.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#450 Apr 22, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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As an example, Bob claims to be Catholic.
He upholds the Church's moral teachings, but denies the virgin birth.
In fact, he admits that the Church is more about culture than faith for him, personally.
A faithful Catholic would never deny the virgin birth.
And those same Catholics tortured and killed anyone who told the truth about Jesus returning to Earth for 40 days or so.

Conversion by sword is hardly a religion.

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#451 Apr 22, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Only makes sense if you cannot distinguish between the various different people who disagree with you.
I am not a libertarian.
Neither is Kosmik

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#452 Apr 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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I've got no loyalty to the regime, I admit that openly.
Another coward with a keyboard. At least we'll know where to find you, just look in every mother's basement.

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