The "Tolerant Left" Strikes Again

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Apr 22, 2013
 
Kosmik wrote:
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Bob what the Catholic Church is attempting is to alter the laws and the application of them to suit their purpose while stepping on any who disagree with them. I believe looking to another entity outside of this country for political marching orders is somewhat treasonous.
Catholic schools exist because parents want their children educated in an environment that reinforces Catholic teachings. that is an expression of faith and it is protected by our Constitution. Again, she can find plenty of places that are willing to employ homosexual teachers. Employing a homosexual as a teacher in a Catholic school is not that much different than employing a prostitute a stripper or any other sex worker. and should a Catholic school have to hire a wiccan?

a Catholic school is a private institution and it simply is not acceptable to force religious institutions to do things that go against their faith. if you guys want to do things by majority vote and what's fashionable at the moment well that's what the government schools are there for.
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Bob what the Catholic Church is attempting is to alter the laws and the application of them to suit their purpose while stepping on any who disagree with them. I believe looking to another entity outside of this country for political marching orders is somewhat treasonous.
what you lefties are doing is trying to cram secular values down the throats of people who fled the government schools because they don't want their kids exposed to this garbage. just one of the reasons why parochial schools are so popular these days.

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Ms. Hale's chosen lifestyle flies in the face of a biblical worldview.
She cannot in any way be said to exemplify the same.
(My goodness, has there ever been a poster more obtuse than yourself?)
Who Ms. Hale IS flies in the face of YOUR Biblical worldview.

There are others, just as devout, just as learned who disagree with you.

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Further, as you have been informed, the "municipal ordinance" you reference will not pass Consitutional muster.
I'm sorry--I missed the Supreme Court ruling.

I wish I had a nickel for everything that some folks claim won't pass Constitutional muster.

Perhaps you recall that being said about Obamacare.

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Hey doll,
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel many denominations, including the Catholics have overstepped their bounds regarding politicisim
No problem.

Just attempting to model the reality that mature adults can disagree civilly.

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Apr 22, 2013
 
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The First Amendment protects speech, the press, free exercise of religion and the rights of assembly and petition. That's it.
You forgot freedom of association.

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There is absolutely no ambiguity in the Church's position on homosexual behavior.
Ms. Hale chose employment with the Church, knowingly risking potential termination for her sinful lifestyle.
Sin is sin, right? Any sin can be the basis for firing?

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Who Ms. Hale IS flies in the face of YOUR Biblical worldview.
There are others, just as devout, just as learned who disagree with you.
So...the lights are on, but nobody's home?

Ms. Hale's lifestyle flies in the face of the biblical position of her employer, the Catholic Church.

And there is no disagreement there.

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I'm sorry--I missed the Supreme Court ruling.
I wish I had a nickel for everything that some folks claim won't pass Constitutional muster.
Perhaps you recall that being said about Obamacare.
Perhaps this situation will initiate a case taking it to that level.
Or perhaps Mayor Coleman knows he will be held accountable for throwing away taxpayer money, if it does.

Read your pocket Constitution.
You have one, don't you?

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Well, based on this--which is older than the Michigan case BTW--there would be not need for a separately stated religious exemption to be included in Columbus' law, as such already exists.

It cites Title VII and ENDA--and uses profitability as the determining factor. Hence, a church-run bookstore would not be exempt, but a daycare would be. That is not what was argued in the Michigan case--which was just decided this year--so I wonder what may have happened since 2001. The Michigan case looked directly at whether an employee could be considered minsterial in function.

I would imagine that this is going to come up big-time moving forward with the church exemptions in Obamacare. And it is already being tested by Hobby Lobby--clearly not a religious organization in any way, shape or form--but claiming a religious exemption from covering contraception.

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<quoted text>Kosmik has joined the Know Nothings and the KKK! Imagine that.
Yep, Mr. No Nothing called the election that you missed by a mile.

My logic will outperform your emotional tantrums everytime.

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Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>what you lefties are doing is trying to cram secular values down the throats of people who fled the government schools because they don't want their kids exposed to this garbage. just one of the reasons why parochial schools are so popular these days.
Secular vs religious is a false dichotomy here.

Ms. Hale is a religious woman.

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Sin is sin, right? Any sin can be the basis for firing?
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No problem.
Just attempting to model the reality that mature adults can disagree civilly.
When did I ever proclaim to be mature, let alone adult?

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Secular vs religious is a false dichotomy here.
Ms. Hale is a religious woman.
ROFLMAO.
And irrelevant, too.

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Yep, Mr. No Nothing called the election that you missed by a mile.
My logic will outperform your emotional tantrums everytime.
Calling Catholics treasonous is right out of the playbook of the Klan and the Know Nothings, Mr. Meltdown. You outed yourself big time.
Nothing will outperform your complete mental breakdown several months ago. It'll be fun to watch you implode again.
You're a walking mental case, K.

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Secular vs religious is a false dichotomy here.
Ms. Hale is a religious woman.
Says who? Where is your source for that?
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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Calling Catholics treasonous is right out of the playbook of the Klan and the Know Nothings, Mr. Meltdown. You outed yourself big time.
Nothing will outperform your complete mental breakdown several months ago. It'll be fun to watch you implode again.
You're a walking mental case, K.
Maybe this time he will get suicidal or as Hey Now says of the sh1t wiper heads splodie at a union meeting.

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When did I ever proclaim to be mature, let alone adult?
Well, just remember what pool you are swimming in.

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<quoted text>Says who? Where is your source for that?
"Hale, a Methodist, has filed a grievance against the diocese based on terms of the contract. If that fails, Tootle said, they could turn to the Columbus ordinance.

"Napoleon Bell, executive director of the city’s Community Relations Commission, said the city law has no exemption for religious organizations.

"Tootle said courts have allowed religious exemptions to such laws if the employee is in a “ ministerial” position conveying the religious organization’s message."
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local...

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