The "Tolerant Left" Strikes Again

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Hundreds of calls, some of them threatening, have been received at a Roman Catholic high school in Columbus where a gay teacher was recently fired, according to a police report filed this week.

The report says the calls came from all over the country in the wake of media reports on a teacher’s firing from Bishop Watterson High School. The Clintonville school has requested a police investigation.

“Some of these calls are threatening in nature, non-specific, yet can and are being taken in a threatening manner,” says the report.

Physical-education teacher Carla Hale, who worked at the school for 19 years, was fired in March after an obituary for her mother listed the name of her female partner. The dismissal caught wide attention on social media this week, and more than 20,000 people have signed a change.org petition that students and others started on Monday to seek Hale’s reinstatement.

Colleen Mar, a school spokeswoman, said Columbus police have referred to the Watterson calls more as menacing than threatening and recommended that a police officer be on school grounds as a precaution. The school also disabled its Facebook page and removed employee email addresses from the school’s website, she said.

George Jones, a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Columbus, which oversees the school, said the diocese is monitoring communications to the school and its staff, and anything suspicious or threatening will be immediately turned over to law-enforcement officials.
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Oh, the outrage. The outrage!

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Wow. Don't abide by your contract and then have a mob stick up for you by claiming hate and intolerance? I guess contracts aren't supposed to be worth the paper their written on any longer.

Catholic school teachers in the Columbus diocese have a clause in their contracts that states they may be dismissed for immorality or ethical issues. If Hale was flying "under the radar" for that long, the school obviously had no proof of her conduct or relationship until that obit was published.

http://www.change.org/petitions/diocese-of-co...

Oh the outrage is right...she had two ways to deal: 1) work in the public school system or 2) refuse to name her "partner" in the obit. You can't tell me she had NO input into what went into her own mother's obituary.

Again, I'm waiting to see that the left spin how the separation of church and state should work.

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Oh, the outrage. The outrage!
Go start a school for poofs and have at it, wee man.

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^^^error^^^^

I guess contracts aren't supposed to be worth the paper they're written on any longer.

Posting my own self-edit for the grammar nazis out there. Wouldn't want to deter a discussion with mere grammar mechanics.

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Wow. Don't abide by your contract and then have a mob stick up for you by claiming hate and intolerance? I guess contracts aren't supposed to be worth the paper their written on any longer.
Catholic school teachers in the Columbus diocese have a clause in their contracts that states they may be dismissed for immorality or ethical issues. If Hale was flying "under the radar" for that long, the school obviously had no proof of her conduct or relationship until that obit was published.
http://www.change.org/petitions/diocese-of-co...
Oh the outrage is right...she had two ways to deal: 1) work in the public school system or 2) refuse to name her "partner" in the obit. You can't tell me she had NO input into what went into her own mother's obituary.
Again, I'm waiting to see that the left spin how the separation of church and state should work.
Were it not for double standards, the left would have absolutely none at all.
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She could have stayed employed had she not advertised she was a carpet chewer in the paper.

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She could have stayed employed had she not advertised she was a carpet chewer in the paper.
Her arrogance, her length of employment and the general nonsense and lies we see from the media today spurred her on.
Rob Portman is about to pay the same price.
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gokeefe wrote:
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I guess contracts aren't supposed to be worth the paper they're written on any longer.
Posting my own self-edit for the grammar nazis out there. Wouldn't want to deter a discussion with mere grammar mechanics.
No, your general idiocy suffices.

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Big Johnson wrote:
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No, your general idiocy suffices.
Don't you have a washing machine to sit on, poof?
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<quoted text>Her arrogance, her length of employment and the general nonsense and lies we see from the media today spurred her on.
Rob Portman is about to pay the same price.
So far a democrat mr slow train Hagan, who is afraid of inanimate objects and loves peter puffings came out saying he will run against him. That though would be like trading sh1t for manure.

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The issue IMHO seriously is the breach of separation of church and state.

I have no idea of what kind of person Carla Hale is, I won't conjecture--we know there will be meltdown with insults eventually. But Carla Hale went into that job fully well knowing with Church teachings are regarding homosexuality.

A lot of folks also don't care to understand the school did NOT fire her. The DIOCESE did. Let's try to keep that clear. The diocese runs all of its religious groups including churches and schools. Meaning that if Watterson decided to go against the diocesan decision, they can lose their standing as a Catholic school and any funding from the diocese.

Yes, there are anti-discrimination laws out there, and no matter whether you are gay or straight, you will have to work to support yourself in this world. I don't have a problem with that. But contractually, Carla Hale made an agreement with an organization within the Catholic Church and its teachings on morality and sexuality are not up for vote or debate by the general public.

We have separation of church and state for a reason. And Carla Hale really has choices in the marketplace for teachers. I can't wait for the spin from Reader on this issue.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Are a lot of folks forgetting the part that states "prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." That means, if the Diocese found her behavior immoral or unethical, they can end her employment contract. Again, I ask, where is the hate or the discrimination, especially if she were there 19 years? Or does the Church not have the right to teach its morality in its own practice?

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I dare the City of Columbus to prosecute based on the city "anti-discrimination " statute. Coleman will need another tax increase to pay for it because the diocese will be flooded with help to pay the legal bills.

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She was able to keep her lifestyle under wraps for 19 years, why not for one more week?

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gokeefe wrote:
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I guess contracts aren't supposed to be worth the paper they're written on any longer.
Posting my own self-edit for the grammar nazis out there. Wouldn't want to deter a discussion with mere grammar mechanics.
Actually, she is appealing under the terms of the contract. The terms strike me as rather vague, so she may prevail. It sounds like the actual practice may have been don't ask don't tell as much as anything--which may weaken the schools case.

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The issue IMHO seriously is the breach of separation of church and state.
I have no idea of what kind of person Carla Hale is, I won't conjecture--we know there will be meltdown with insults eventually. But Carla Hale went into that job fully well knowing with Church teachings are regarding homosexuality.
A lot of folks also don't care to understand the school did NOT fire her. The DIOCESE did. Let's try to keep that clear. The diocese runs all of its religious groups including churches and schools. Meaning that if Watterson decided to go against the diocesan decision, they can lose their standing as a Catholic school and any funding from the diocese.
Yes, there are anti-discrimination laws out there, and no matter whether you are gay or straight, you will have to work to support yourself in this world. I don't have a problem with that. But contractually, Carla Hale made an agreement with an organization within the Catholic Church and its teachings on morality and sexuality are not up for vote or debate by the general public.
We have separation of church and state for a reason. And Carla Hale really has choices in the marketplace for teachers. I can't wait for the spin from Reader on this issue.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Are a lot of folks forgetting the part that states "prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." That means, if the Diocese found her behavior immoral or unethical, they can end her employment contract. Again, I ask, where is the hate or the discrimination, especially if she were there 19 years? Or does the Church not have the right to teach its morality in its own practice?
There was a case in Michigan that many on the right cheered that may provide guidance--but you probably won't like it.

In that case it was found that ADA protections did not apply to a teacher due to a portion of her time being devoted to religious teaching. If that case applies here and the teachers duties are exclusively secular, it would seem that Columbus civil protections would apply.

Now that's not spinning. That's about looking at how the courts have drawn the Constitutional line.

Be interested to hear from some lawyers.

If you want my religious opinion, that's something else again.

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FKA Reader wrote:
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Actually, she is appealing under the terms of the contract. The terms strike me as rather vague, so she may prevail. It sounds like the actual practice may have been don't ask don't tell as much as anything--which may weaken the schools case.
Listen to Reader the "lawyer"..."The terms strike me as rather vague, so she may prevail."
Go play with you hood pets.

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<quoted text>Listen to Reader the "lawyer"..."The terms strike me as rather vague, so she may prevail."
Go play with you hood pets.
Bigotry, of course limits his opinions to those on which he is fully credentialed.

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Bigotry, of course limits his opinions to those on which he is fully credentialed.
YOUR bigotry toward the Catholic Church an its adherents has always been on full display and your posts on this thread are no exception.

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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>YOUR bigotry toward the Catholic Church an its adherents has always been on full display and your posts on this thread are no exception.
Perhaps you would point out which statements of mine on this thread you consider bigoted.

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